Posts by humbled

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Jesus as a Ransom for Humans or not

by fulltimestudent in

i have not got an answer (theoretical or not) to the above question.. but the main text book (introducing the new testament- its literature and theology - achtemeier, green and thompson) for my study unit (early christian literature and thought) in the assigned reading for today's lecture on the gospel of john, has a section on the ransom.

it says (p. 237): one of the few passages that explicitly speaks of jesus dying for others is mark 10:45:.

"for even the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.. .

humbled

Karen King is one of many scholars whose work in the field of early church writing explores the alternate words and worlds left completely out of our indoctination by the prevailing church.

www.earlychristianwriting.com/gospelmary.html is a site that opens some of the doors to these lost avenues. The Church did no good by suppressing the variant writings.

It has been thought control from the very beginnings of an organized church.

I think Jesus didn't promote a ransom only a little spiritual freedom--

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Hi! I'm new here

by Powermetal4ever in

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thought i am gonna introduce myself.

i am a girl from a country in europe, and not an english speaking one, so if i am writing strange or something, you know why.

anyway, have been reading here for a while now, the other day i thought it was time to register as a member.

humbled

Good to hear from you, PoM.

It is a powerful moment to declare yourself even through the veil of the internet.

So you have a grate ickskews reeson for bad spilling an poor inglish.

Dont worry, theers plenty of folks heer to currect you-- lik me fur instints--who hav iglish as there #1 langwige.

Maeve

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My Husband Confesses His Sole Regret for My Exit....

by humbled in

( important note: my husband hated that i became a jw.

hated everything about it.).

he is the one who every morning makes our coffee in his beat-up metal perculator.

humbled

Funny stuff^^^^^^, ya'll !

It's Sunday and I am not at the K Hall. After we (husband, daughter, son, his GF and myself) spent an hour and a half eating homemade donuts, drinking coffee and watching a Christopher Hitchens debate online, I decided I should sew my husband a couple of hotpads. If he likes, I'll mark them Watchtower and Awake!--Or not.

It's good now to finally laugh about a period of time that was then so without humor or understanding between us. How amazing to be moving past it.

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Reflections on 1 year WT Free-breaking the chains...

by MissFit in

hi everyone.. i just realized that it has been over a year since i discovered this site and started to recognize i was shackled by invisible chains.

i am still in the process of chipping away on those chains.. i posted on another thread how these threads here are like little time capsules.

the moment, the emotions, the attitudes are all there frozen.. .

humbled

Watching how you've gone along I can see how there are commonalities between us as we come out from this tightly managed religious group.

I have had a little therapy but couldn't afford to continue. It is hard to sort it all out. But in general I am vastly relieved to be working my life out without the crushing load of the WT on my back.

I am glad you opened your story one year on, MissFit.

maeve

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How do we set up a "Used New Bike Fund" for Terry?

by BucketShopBill in

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is there any way we can try to start a crowd-fund to help terry get some wheels quicker than he currently can?

with craigslist and a couple of bucks from a few members we can help terry get moving.

does anyone have any ideas how we can do a "theists for terry" bike fund raiser and challenge the atheists to a bucket-head challenge?

humbled

Yep--Paypal! Can do!

Maeve

ps. Yadda yadda, it's okay to sometimes drop a few coins for a friend--as someone or other once said: the poor are always with us :)

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GOVERNING BODY: Thanks for nothing, you rat bastards!

by Terry in

as a jehovah's witness:.

two things finally struck me:.

for now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now i know in part, but then i will know fully just as i also have been fully known.. _______________________.

humbled

Right--we were always given the GB "milk" instead of solid food-any sign that we were trying to chew any solid food we had taken away and our teeth knocked out. so to speak

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My Husband Confesses His Sole Regret for My Exit....

by humbled in

( important note: my husband hated that i became a jw.

hated everything about it.).

he is the one who every morning makes our coffee in his beat-up metal perculator.

humbled

minimus, Terry--

Yep--I am still smiling about it-

Poor guy--22 years of having a JW for a -(cough)-partner. He hasn't said much about it since I left--until this morning's coffee.

I DID use to pour over those mags.

We are both glad I finally got OUT!

Happy Saturday morning to you!

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My Husband Confesses His Sole Regret for My Exit....

by humbled in

( important note: my husband hated that i became a jw.

hated everything about it.).

he is the one who every morning makes our coffee in his beat-up metal perculator.

humbled

( Important note: My husband HATED that I became a JW. Hated everything about it.)

Now----

He is the one who every morning makes our coffee in his beat-up metal perculator. And this morning shuffling around the kitchen with the fresh perked coffee pot in his hand exclaimed "There is one thing I will say that I really miss about you leaving the Witnesses"

--and I will say I was shocked to hear this. My mind drew a complete blank as to what this fervent and thoughtful hater of the Organization would MISS about me being a JW... so I waited to hear this revelation:

"In the past I could always find one of those GOD-DAMNED Awakes or Watchtowers on the table to set the coffee pot on!"

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What year did the NWT drop John 7:53-8:11? Was it ever in the NWT?

by Terry in

from biblegateway:.

jesus forgives a woman taken in adulterythis story, beloved for its revelation of god's mercy toward sinners, is found only in john.

it was almost certainly not part of john's original gospel.

humbled

Phizzy,

I have gone with gut feelings about Jesus since leaving organized religion. The teachings either find a home in me or I throw them out. Is this cherry-picking? I'm not the only one then. There are ancient texts that early church fathers dis-allowed or cherry-picked from the beginning. Texts that suggest that Jesus never styled himself as the "Apostles Creed" does.

The story of the woman taken in adultery is wonderful--whoever told it.

Maeve

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Copy of my DA Letter

by airborne in

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this is my first time posting here, although i have been a visitor to it for around a year.

after doing a simple google search under "jehovah'switnesses" over a year ago, i found ttat.

i was deeply unhappy with the congregation and decided to educate myself, and boy what an education i have gotten so far.

humbled

Airborne,

That was a great letter. It left a way for the men who read it to reflect. Or if it sticks in their craw--well, they still have to deal with the points you made so well.

i hve continued to live by the teachings that have been attributed to Jesus. I do not trust the Bible, however, which leave me to a great deal of discretion as to how I follow Jesus. Called cherry-picking by some. I have no trouble hearing good teachings where ever it comes from. In the end we have to answer to our own heart. We have to be honest with ourselves.

All the best!

maeve