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  Good Guys VS Bad Guys: Facts Nobody Wants to KNow

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  facts we don't want to know.

  the purpose of war is to kill humans.. .

  which humans?.

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  https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/511454/

  Obama doesn’t get a pass, LUHE. If the link provided above is any good it is s thoughtful and damning criticism of his drone policy-a huge arrogation of killing authority.

  It is hard to figure out the true and false of matters as so many have said. —l suspect that the powers of government are themselves governed by the vast power of multinational corporations. Look at the records billions of dollars made by more than the oil interests but also by the arms and military manufacturers . It is astounding. And they have no moral codes here of any sort: check out the sales of U.S manufactured weapons that go to nations with oppressive dictatorships. These corporations pay vast sums to lobby the U.S. Congress. Don’t take my word for it—check it out.

  No, the people who are sent off to war don't commit crimes, it's the people that send them.

  Some veterans who volunteer for service who returned from Iraq and refuse further deployments when they sense the actions are “illegal “—they discerned the calculated evil of what they were sent to do. And they do not say their governments “made a mistake”. No. They know that there was wrong and purposeful abuse of military force.

  These huge corporations have no interest in peace.The US elections are virtually run by big money and then officials are lobbied day by day by these same“creditors”.

  When Big Money owns a government it eventually won’t care about people. Not even loyal soldiers.

  We must find a way to re-new governments to serve people’s welfare —honestly.
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  Good Guys VS Bad Guys: Facts Nobody Wants to KNow

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  facts we don't want to know.

  the purpose of war is to kill humans.. .

  which humans?.

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  https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html

  The above article has more food for thought.

  What do we tell our children when rogue despots and terrorists don’t have to lie about the U.S. enriching special interests by abusing its power and reputation as the“good guy”?

  Edit:Soldiers will go through horrors for a good cause. But they are crushed when they are used as hit-men for big money.
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  Good Guys VS Bad Guys: Facts Nobody Wants to KNow

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  facts we don't want to know.

  the purpose of war is to kill humans.. .

  which humans?.

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  True.
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  Good Guys VS Bad Guys: Facts Nobody Wants to KNow

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  facts we don't want to know.

  the purpose of war is to kill humans.. .

  which humans?.

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  The U.S.A. is no worse than many other governments. Many are worse for sure. But once l learned that our government lies to us about who, why and how the US is attacking and how it treats the blood of its citizens—l do not believe, don’t trust in the rightness of my government. I don’t automatically genuflect at a declaration of war. Blood should count for good if you have to spill it.

  United States soldiers fought and died in WWll —as did fighters from all over. I never heard a veteran regret that they fought that war.
  
  
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  Good Guys VS Bad Guys: Facts Nobody Wants to KNow

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  facts we don't want to know.

  the purpose of war is to kill humans.. .

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  In 1901, novelist Mark Twain wrote about the aftermath of the war for the Phillipines:

  We have robbed a trusting friend of his land and his liberty; we have invited clean young men to shoulder a discredited musket and do bandit's work under a flag which bandits have been accustomed to fear, not to follow; we have debauched America's honor and blackened her face before the world.

  What Twain wrote is much your thoughts here, Terry. My father would likely have agreed as well—And he was a veteran of three wars. Drafted as a teen for WWll, war again as a reservist for Korea he stayed in until after a final deployment to Vietnam and then he retired in 1971. He became disillusioned. He saw the abuse of military force for no good cause, the needless loss of young soldiers and the harm done to civilians. (He adopted a orphan at the end of a hardship tour to Korea 1967, a four year old girl, my sister Meg, who brought our total of children to nine.)

  He drank a lot.

  I have regard for young men and women who serve for ideals. But l have contempt for cold blooded aggression and underhanded subversion that spill blood for power.

  I was raised around the military. I was raised to believe in a God that blessed some wars. But what we humans are doing on earth is sick.

  There is unarguable evidence of criminal intervention by the USA in Nicaragua and the Congo. Criminal, immoral, irresponsible —l understand why the U.S. would not join the World Court. The actual government records of those CIA crimes are available IF PEOPLE WANT THE FACTS as you say.

  Other predations of the US from earlier times noted: the Mexican War in 1848 to take land (Not to mention the genocide of native people) and the pocketing of Phillipines by slaughter. And more. And more.

  The idea that any person or any nation can pretend they stand on moral high ground after destabilizing other countries and murdering their people is silly. The US is a super power for sure. But it is not honest about how it does it’s business.

  The U.S.A. is no worse than many other governments. Many are worse for sure. But once l learned that our government lies to us about who, why and how the US is attacking and how it treats the blood of its citizens—l do not believe, don’t trust in the rightness of my government. I don’t automatically genuflect at a declaration of war. Blood should count for good if you have to spill it.

  I am glad you brought this up, Terry. You struggled to do the right thing and went to prison and f—ked away years with the JWs. It’s hard to figure this stuff out. I think so,

  My dad did the best he could to figure it out too. He survived all that war—and survived the alcohol by leaving it alone after a time. That stuff tore him down but he moved on. We are moving on too. We move away and don’t justify a wrong path we took.

  It’s a tough topic. But it is good to be clear about what facts are. And good to face them.

  Maeve
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  The speed with which I exited!!

  by joe134cd in

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  i was just thinking at how quickly the process was from pimi - pimo - pomo.

  i must of spent about 10 years trudging along in the organization very unhappily.

  but from the initial stages of learning ttatt to physically walking out the door the process took about 18 months.

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  Jrjw—The US eBay has new copies for $30. You are in Scotland?

  edit: see the thread of free download of Fred Frank books in recent conversations. ( it actually costs @ $10). His CoC helped me make my exit. Good luck.
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  Power conceded nothing without a demand.

  by poopie in

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  douglas.

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  humbled

  Haha! Y’all

  Terrific reference Grreat Teacher. I had never read that speech. I read Douglass’ autobiography to my children when they were young . What a man.

  Hey! Poopie. Pour yer self some stout tea ‘r coffee n say sumpin!
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  I was invited to address The Presbyterians at their church

  by Giordano in

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  so i was asked to give a presentation at the oxford forum which is sponsored by a local presbyterian church.

  it's a very old church founded in 1758. it's way out in a rural area and if your interested here is their web site.. for a quick look at a beautiful setting: http://www.oxfordchurchlex.org/ yes this image is eye candy but up close the architectural detailing is pretty impressive............ there is no way you are going to confuse this church with a jehovah's witness soon to be closed kingdom hall.. the pastor told me that they would have 15 to 20 people attending my presentation about the jw life and beliefs.

  it would start at 10am and end at 10:50. he would open the meeting with a brief prayer and welcome.

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  Amen
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  Sincere question to those who no longer believe in God

  by nowwhat? in

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  i get it, not a fan of yahweh the desert god.

  but what about jesus?

  anything wrong with his teachings like the sermon on the mount and the example he set.

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  . Mary Magdalene . of . Jesus: . “I will be heard.”

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  Punctuation within and without quotation marks

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  http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp .

  would someone please make this link clickable?.

  cc.

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  I might have copied and pasted all of the above. I’ve read it couple times. And finally the following memory poked its head out of the past.

  About 10 years ago I worked in the Facilities Department at the Walton Arts Center in Fayetteville, Arkansas. They had a summer music camp. There were instructors and young teens in every nook and cranny of the building. (Pheromones so thick l could hardly breathe) Parking my cleaning cart in the entrance of one of the smaller restroom l was to clean, I realized just beyond near the alcove leading to an outside garden there was a tutor and a boy holding his sax. The words of the tutor to his student, a boy of perhaps 13, fascinated me. Best l can remember he said:

  “... and don’t be tempted to go down the road that some musicians do. To “feel the music” even famous players have gone into drugs or alcohol. You don’t have to do that to play with power, play with feeling. You can take your head and put it in a special place without doing that. Some good musicians use drugs and alcohol to unlock their heart —but after a while it breaks them. You gotta learn how to get into your own head sober.”

  Unfortunately l had toilets to clean so can’t say if the kid’s tutor had more than cautions on the matter. Maybe later he gave guidance as you did for Thomas on the safer methods to artistic “madness”.

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  Interesting conversation.