"millions now living will never die" that teaching persisted for a number of years from the early 1920`s ,sad to say that their would not be anywhere near millions alive today.and with another few years their won`t be anybody alive .. the year 1925 was supposed to see the resurrection of faithful men of old such as abraham issac and jacob and noah who were to be princes in the earth.
of course no such thing happened and we don`t here anything more about that prediction anymore.. the time period between adams creation and eves creation was an excuse why armageddon was delayed in about october 1975 because they didn`t know how much time had elapsed between the two.
that`s all forgotten about now.. six thousand years of human history was supposed to have ended in about october 1872 according to studies in the scriptures vol.2 1906 , the "time is at hand" page 11 (forward 1916 ) puts the start of the one thousand year reign of jesus christ as of the year 1873. so in 1906 they the i.b.s.a.
Diogenesister- - when do these things air? That is one of the most revolting pieces of— I don’t even know what to call it.
And women still are subordinate in the New System ?
It is unbelievable how stupid this is. The waiters recruited from another department— were they proud to be props for this idiocy?!
lt wasn’t this bad 10 years ago —was it?
here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.
his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.
he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.
I found Intelligence described as the ability to more and more closely associate ideas. I think that covers all of the definitions of intelligence. It covers social skills, survival skills, academic skills.—vienne
This struck me as a useful description. Then l read on and this struck me too. Thanks.
Being quick witted may be nice, but alone it does not mean you're a superior human. Behavior is what matters. A misbehaving genius is a fool. An mentally under-performing but kind-hearted person is his superior.
old friend (in memorium).
we found the site of our old kingdom hall--no longer a place of cult activity--unless the electric supply business has a dark side.
all those meetings, songs, conversations!
That is how it is , getting on in age, but having a friend who has been through such moments of your life.
Aren’t you glad you both had your friendship for so strong and do long?
now that we have stepped away from the jw faith, how do you feel about the bible itself?.
what about those awkward sections of scripture?
how did you rationalise or justify those sections?.
There is no way to understand or explain Genesis 22.
The story of God testing Abraham flies in the face of the scriptures that “cannot be broken”
1) God cannot lie
2) God condemns child sacrifice as evil.
3) God does not test/tempt anyone with . evil
Genesis 22 has him do all three.
I left over this. The only “out” for God in the matter was to say that the original Hebrew word for burn offering was not derived in any sense from the word for sacrifice. The story must be about a strange teaching of blind faith by a god talking to a man with a limited definition of worship.
It is impossible to give God a pass on the story otherwise. He would be evil by his own reckoning.
march 10, 1876: “mr.
watson —come here—i want to see you” the voice of alexander graham bell is transmitted.
he wasn't the first to invent it but the first to own a patent.. in 1910 telephone "subscribers" had 4 digit telephone numbers.soon, larger cities had 5 digit numbers.mark twain was one of the first to have a phone in his home.. the first phones had no dials or buttons.
Blownaway—is that in Prairie Grove?!!
hongkong, a relatively small city by asian standards, with a still smaller number of christian believers, still managed to reveal 55 cases of sexual harassment in local churches in a recent survey.. quote: "but a survey of hong kong protestants has thrown up 55 sexual harassment cases in churches, half of them allegedly committed by pastors or church leaders.. the survey, released on sunday by the hong kong christian council, came after a hong kong pastor was accused of taking sexual advantage of women with whom he had built paternal relationships.".
and, another very truthful quote: "the survey shows an inconvenient fact: that sexual violence in churches has never stopped,” council assistant executive secretary jessica tso said.".
https://www.inkstonenews.com/society/hong-kong-christian-council-releases-survey-alleging-multiple-sexual-harassment-cases-churches/article/2152296.
There is a pattern:
Vulnerable young women
O, we must forgive!!
Must protect the Church..,,
Take it to the Church elders..
Nothing happens but more abuse
Finally go to police after so much lost time.
And, another very truthful quote: "The survey shows an inconvenient fact: that sexual violence in churches has never stopped,”—from the article
firstly, i want to be crystal clear how grateful i am for jwn.
it's been my place of support for over seventeen years and it's the first online space i direct anyone to if they are taking steps out of the cult.
i am not bashing jwn - i love this place and appreciate the hard work and expense simon puts in to keep it going.
When we discuss these things we should always try to reaffirm what the other person actually believes, and discuss from there because many times we all share the same big principles. —sir 82 —Freemindfade
Well , howdy doo!
I hate to take that back from from Sir82( l bet that is a sentiment he can go with) but it is yours, Freemindfade.
it’s been awhile since we were so closely allied. I will mark this and continue in this vein.
People do go from zero to 60 in some exchanges. As easily as not checking to see who posted that last thought.
Nice thought
i have a couple of family members who not so much went back but never were associated and joined.
one is a cousin, he is about 60 now.
maybe a bit older.
He would piss off roof tops say fuck every other word and just did not care much about anyone or thing.
I would go over for coffee he would take his cup and bang the table and she would run out and fill it up. He would have her shave him as he sat in the tub ect.
Peeing off the building! Sounds like a boy raised with a big country porch and that attitude ...some men in these Arkansas counties have a lordly attitude toward women and rule their tick ridden farms like they owned the universe.
maybe his wife just does like to be around the people like used2badub says. Kinda weak but kinda human.
I t can get tiresome alone with chickens dogs and katydids. Go to meeting!
firstly, i want to be crystal clear how grateful i am for jwn.
it's been my place of support for over seventeen years and it's the first online space i direct anyone to if they are taking steps out of the cult.
i am not bashing jwn - i love this place and appreciate the hard work and expense simon puts in to keep it going.
When we discuss these things we should always try to reaffirm what the other person actually believes, and discuss from there because many times we all share the same big principles. —sir 82Good point.
We can be massively defensive, Sir82.
certainly our training was to never build on an existing good in the preaching work. It was destroy the existing belief and rebuild— never remodel.
l believed fundamentally before l became JW that there is a common sense of what hurts one person likely hurts another. A careful search for the point at which the branch conversational branch divides is worth the conversation. A conversation that finds its common root can find a solution to a shared problem.
Unless we decide it’s easier to destroy the opposition. Mow it down. Assume that there is nothing that other person agrees with in the least.
Unless we really want blood
we may have to settle for persistent good faith discussion —
assimilation !
not quite a week ago, @lost in the fog created a thread entitled: do you have this illness?.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5187824140681216/do-you-have-this-illness.
in my year of being on this forum, i have browsed many a disillusioned thread of ex-jehovah’s witnesses expressing similar symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder when detailing their awakening - my own story included.
A brilliant analysis of the complex of problems caused by Spiritual Protection gone bad. I should copy this and mail it to my old counselor.
And it is useful even now for everyday living. Thanks for putting it together, Wake Me.
