When WWII ended, how difficult was it for the JW's that had been in prison to adjust?

by Sobeit in

my husband seemed to have a hard time..

humbled

Sobeit—l have to guess what may have troubled your husband. I am going to refer to my own experience. Although I am a woman and was not subjected to the draft I have been as active as I can be to promote non-violent means of solving conflict. I used to be on board with absolute pacifism. But l am not like that now. I am not capable of standing by when a person is assaulted or endangered. I might not own a gun but l will absolutely fight for my life or the life of another. And l think this is true of most people.

Philosophically your husband may very well have felt the conflict that many of us feel when we believe that it is far better to fight for peace through helping and working for the good of our fellow man long before the flash point, as we are war is the way we have to protect ourselves against our fellow man . even Gandhi felt that at some point war was irresistible—That even a lover of peace might take up arms. The watch tower did not allow for this conscientious point of view.

Perhaps this was a thing that bothered your husband

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What's the difference between a Christian and a JW?

by nowwhat? in

christians look to jesus as the redeeemer of mankind.. jw's look to jesus as the executioner of mankind!.

humbled

cofty, Dr Who—point well made.

Your comments brought to mind scripture, oddly enough:

18Woe to those who wish for the day of the Lord!

Why do you want the Lord’s day of judgment to come?

It will bring darkness, not light.

19Disaster will be inescapable,

as if a man ran from a lion only to meet a bear,

then escaped into a house,

leaned his hand against the wall,

and was bitten by a poisonous snake.

20Don’t you realize the Lord’s day of judgment will bring darkness, not light

Amos 5: 18-20

P.s. but come on, fellas. We can be proud of this can’t we— JWs rank as outstanding in the rankings of f**ked up Christian groups?

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What's the difference between a Christian and a JW?

by nowwhat? in

christians look to jesus as the redeeemer of mankind.. jw's look to jesus as the executioner of mankind!.

humbled

What's the difference between a Christian and a JW?

Christians don’t have to have a recovery forum?

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PBS "Amercian Experience" WW1

by Bill Covert in

i watched pbs "american experience" 3 part ww1.

the theme was president w. wilson.

they dealt with how he was the most religious president ever had, with the highest moral principles.

humbled

WW2 was a revenge against the failure to heed Wilson's warnings.—waton

Indeed, l too read that the heavily punitive and humiliating sanctions imposed on Germany after WWI insured the recurrence of the world war.

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What's the difference between a Christian and a JW?

by nowwhat? in

christians look to jesus as the redeeemer of mankind.. jw's look to jesus as the executioner of mankind!.

humbled

SBF-

what happened to my ...errm....message?

Just home from market an could use one about now.

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Moving Back to Chicago - Don't care

by LevelThePlayingField in

my wife was diagnosed with ms about two years ago.

we have been living in ohio for the last 5 years but were recently assigned to a new congregation because of the dissolving and sale of our congregation/kh.

my wife's symptoms spiked after being relocated to our new hall back in january.

humbled

Good for you for caring for her so.

Of course l don’t know you but any move is rough but to a place and situation you dread.... hope you find a release valve .

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Universal sovereignty on trial

by Factfulness in

i just had a thought of clarity regarding the jw explanation for this doctrine.

they explain that satan challenged god regarding his right to rule.

god failed to prove his right to rule.

humbled

If superior knowledge (JW epi gnosis?) quantum physics and the like is what allows one to “know” god then we are ever doomed to the rule of a priestly class.

When l left the Organization the elders asked me if l thought l was smarter than the Bethel folk. I told them that with my common sense and the contradictions plain to see l could not believe what they wanted.

The reflexive teaching of the Golden Rule does not even require literacy to profoundly enlighten. Pleasure and pain are not too complex. We can think about it. Moreover we can feel it.

A natural dawn. Sex. A birth. A death . A mother’s milk. On and on.

maybe it is too easy.

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Re: the woman parking attendants and real life

by carla in

with much amusement i read the thread on women parking lot attendants and it got me to thinking about life at home for the average jw.. i believe i am correct in thinking that anything to do with jw-ism requires a penis, except all the leg work (fs & pioneers).

meaning the mic's, talks, etc... but yet the same guy who thinks his wife (or any other woman) is not bright enough to run the sound system for example doesn't mind his wife hauling hay, digging in the yard, managing the checkbook and other various physical jobs as well as jobs that do in fact require a brain larger than that of a gnat?.

let's say a guy is a bit technologically challenged but he can manage the sound system at the kh ok. i imagine he feels proud that he is getting to do this great privilege?

humbled

There is far too many non-penis-equipped people expressing opinions here on this thread!It must stop now! Or Jehovah will get very upset you know! — stuckinarut

I am loving this thread.

Rock on ladies and all you ladies’ men!

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tommy Robinson --update

by zeb in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.

this is self explanatory.

please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.

humbled

For me the sum of it all was to assess what was going on after the law was followed. After the children were protected.

The earliest threads absolutely cited the callous disregard for the girls. The reports that were ignored. IGNORED.

Law must be made and followed, enforced.

The problems that are peculiar to these times are well covered in Trevor Philips’ essays and comments on assimilation. There is the need to frankly discuss the peculiar range of issues to do with Islam. This open discussion in public forums aside from the mosques is welcomed by that worried percentage of progressive Muslims who cannot easily leave their religion

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What's the difference between a Christian and a JW?

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christians look to jesus as the redeeemer of mankind.. jw's look to jesus as the executioner of mankind!.

humbled

Post script:

l asked that Anointed elder to explain the JW “peace tradition”, to replace me on the panel. Of course he refused: He would have been seated along side Christendom.

We all know now how restricted speech really is in the Org. And what we might do is also restricted. Our palid words and deeds must wait and wait and wait for a war to break out for our neutrality to “shine”. The energy of riotous and exuberant unconditional love isn’t there.

For a lark look at this Watchtower study from a few years ago. What other Christian religion is this hypocritical?

Do You Have “Freeness of Speech”?
OVER six million people in 235 lands enjoy what the Bible calls “freeness of speech.” The expression occurs 16 times in the text of the Christian Greek Scriptures of the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures. (Philippians 1:20; 1 Timothy 3:13; Hebrews 3:6; 1 John 3:21) What does “freeness of speech” involve? What helps us to acquire it? In what areas of communication does this freedom allow us to make unhindered expressions?

humbled

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