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  Jehovah's Witnesses are CASTING A GIANT SHADOW

  by Terry in

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  folks are about as happy as they decide to be.. looking on the bright side of life gives you more of a foothold when things go awry.

  nurturing hope builds a foundation for you which enables you to save for tomorrow and build toward the future and hang on when things get tough.. people dig their own graves when they become pessimists.

  "why bother" replaces "that's worth a try!".

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  Terry

  You already know this but sometimes you just love people for their minds. Yours is and always will be one of my favourite minds.

  Fi
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  Diary of a thinking to return ex-Jw

  by reniaa in

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  2. experiences

  i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.

  i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!

  she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .

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  Reniaa

  It does seem you are trying to find somewhere where you feel whole or complete, a sense of belonging............the scary thing is I dont think a person, bunch of people or religion give us that and certainly not a religion that is as confused and questionable as the witnesses.

  The question I want to ask you is this

  If you go back and become a fully paid up member and then one of your kids or yourself needs a blood transfusion what will you do?

  I know this is an emotive question but it is a hard fact that some have to face and unless you are absolutely sure that the JWs are right then why would you put you and yours in this position?

  Maybe it is time to start looking at who you are and why. Maybe it is time to search your own deep motivation and question what is really going on with you.

  Take care on your quest

  Love

  Fifi
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  rangers in the EUFA cup final

  by ninja in

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  wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  i don't expect you non scots to understand but......ninja is so happy.....come on the gers

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  Ninja...............I understand being married to a Scots..............there was a lot of noise in our house last night whilst the game was on........but I have to say football in our house causes a lot of disagreement especially when England are playing......Grrrrrrrrrr
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  What is the best way to help BurnTheShips...

  by nvrgnbk in

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  to grasp that the basic purpose of science is to produce useful models of reality.

  how to help him understand that trying to make observable reality "fit" around a collection of writings designed in its first half to inspire the oftentimes persecuted jewish people and in its second to consolidate the fragmented roman empire is an exercise in futility?.

  sorry, burn.. i couldn't resist.. hope you're having a wonderful day,.

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  PS It is worth coming on here just to read his comments
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  What is the best way to help BurnTheShips...

  by nvrgnbk in

  1. jw
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  to grasp that the basic purpose of science is to produce useful models of reality.

  how to help him understand that trying to make observable reality "fit" around a collection of writings designed in its first half to inspire the oftentimes persecuted jewish people and in its second to consolidate the fragmented roman empire is an exercise in futility?.

  sorry, burn.. i couldn't resist.. hope you're having a wonderful day,.

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  I love HS and want to be one of his mistresses

  Chuckles madly to herself ( at HS comments)
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  the TRUTH about DISFELLOWSHIPPING and SHUNNING from JESUS view

  by Terry in

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  loving and forgiving are a huge component of jesus' message to his disciples.. in answer to the question as to how many times forgiveness should be offered to an offender, jesus gave the reply, "seventy (times) seven.

  " (variously interpreted as either 77 times or a multiple of 70 times 7).. an example is given of a man who owed a considerable sum of money whose debt was forgiven.

  this man failed to forgive a much smaller debt owed to him.

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  Burn

  I think if you thought about what you asked Terry for a short while, you could come up with the answer yourself.

  Whilst Terry may not share your devotion to a belief in God or Jesus he too was once a JW. He has lived that experience and like many of us on here realises the error of that decision. If he wishes to causes people who continue to still be influenced by this religion to THINK; what harm is there. You dont have to believe in something to have information, knowledge and experience of it.

  Fi
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  I ATTENDED A JW FUNERAL YESTERDAY---WOW!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in 1959 i became best friends with a fellow who was instrumental in my becoming a jehovah's witness.

  yesterday i attended his mother's funeral.. from the time i was 12 years old i became a part of johnny's family and got to know his mother, jennie, very well.

  in fact, she was more instrumental in convincing me there was intellectual merit to the reasoning process of consulting the bible and drawing jw conclusions than any of the arguments johnny and i had.. fast forward a bit.

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  Terry

  Aleman is a bit loopy ................probably best ignored!

  Friendly advice :)
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  A STUNNINGLY simple question about JOHN 3:16 "For God so Loved the world."

  by Terry in

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  on what basis did god so love the world?.

  the world of mankind had been condemned to death by god's curse in eden!.

  god viewed mankind as "dust on the scales".

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  AGuest

  The trouble with your scenario is

  1. Should God be really playing games.

  2. If he holds the trump card, the 'ace', then what the hell is the point of it all in the first place. Does he enjoy the suffering of mankind that occurs whilst he watches the 'game' play out. There is no skill or purpose to this game................it just reeks of madness and looks like a power trip............and we are all just pawns in that game. Pawns that could and never would have any choice or advantage.

  It stinks!!!!!
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  Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. medical

  shropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.

  features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.

  yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.

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  Anti D is considered a matter of conscience...........or in other words were a JW to accept it they would not be viewed badly or be disfellowshipped................I had it after my pregnancies whilst a JW.

  Fi
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  How do you fell when you look back at your time as a JW ??

  by karter in

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  to me not all bad taught me some good life skills howerever 38 years i could have done alot with that time...............karter

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  Crusoe

  You do seem on a bit of a downer. I actually didnt suggest a course of action for anyone just answered the question raised from my own perspective.

  For the record life has thrown its fair amount of shite at me from being raised in a mind control organisation whilst being the child of an two abusive parents (in their own ways), divorce, losing my 2 day year old son, facing the blood dilemna for both myself and my son and having a 15 year old son who is being raised by his JW father in this religion........all of which does not fill me with joy. I have been pinned against doors by my father and he has offered to shoot both of us; I have had him smack me in the face whilt I had stitches in my face and then insist on my attendance at the meeting on Sunday; I have watched the same man cry like a baby and sink into depression when his wife left him and her children after 26 years of marriage. I was 13 at the time and the reponsibility of running a home fell on me. I have a brother who I love who has turned his back on me because on his religious beliefs. I could fill a page but what is the point.

  It is stuff that has happened, mostly with me having very little say in the matters.

  Despite the crap, I am happy to be alive and I am happy to have the frame of mind that has made me be a survivor and to seek out a good life for myself and to try and accept and be content with what my life is and has been.

  I dont expect all to feel the same or for all to cope in the same way but if I can bring a little happiness, inspiration, understanding or just compassion then I am happy to give it. Sure thing is that wallowing in pity is not going to make you feel any better about yourself or your situation.

  Fi