Nic
Let me tell you something abr, I could outhink your god any day of the week - I'm ready whenever he chooses to show up.
Job 38-42
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
Nic
Let me tell you something abr, I could outhink your god any day of the week - I'm ready whenever he chooses to show up.
Job 38-42
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
Awakened, you have made some very valid points that cannot be argued or disputed, however comparing our time with twenty, thirty or forty years ago or more, there is no comparison. Our is time marked by fear as Christ said it would be, terrorism is not caused by religious oppression, do yourself a favor and do some research on the cause of terrorisn, it is a much deeper and broader subject than most would ever believe or think of. As the world hangs by a thread financially, we live in a world that is ready to implode and explode. There really are not that many more rabbits to pull out of the hat, when it happens, not IF as all the evidence and finaciers are saying. People will not act like they did in the 30's during the Great Depression, peoples minds have already been predisposed to enough violence, it will be New Orleans on a much bigger and nastier scale. It is coming, if you would read some of the articles that I read by some leading experts, this is not going to go away.
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
Nicolau,
As a grown man, do you unquestioningly obey and agree to every wish of your biological father?
Two different scenerios, we will never meet up to His standards, as the Bible says, we are to be childlike and never can we ever get to know what He knows nor do what He does, not the same as with humans who can out think, perform, study, excel, strenght and many other characteristics of their parents.
As to my last 7 days . . . I'd tell the bastard to hurry up and kill me, I wouldn't want to live 7 minutes under him.
I am sorry that you are so scarred from humans and that you actually think of the God of the Bible in this manner. I hope you find peace from what ever has caused you to have so much hurt and anger from someone you have not met yet. Not being sacastic, just honest. I dont think I could ever hate someone I have not met yet.
Ben Franklin once said "I don't like that man, I think I will get to know him"
Respectfully,
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
Light Lost
So his inability to provide coherent, easily understood instructions to his creation proves to me that he is neither all mighty nor deserving of our reverence. He should have written "The Idiots guide to Life" or "Living for Dummies", at least then we could follow his word.
He has plainly written down so many things that are harmful and yet we as humans have rushed in to do them anyway. Fornication, adultery, gluttony, gossip and slandering others and the harmful effects to all involved, drunkenenss-I dont think anything has to be said concerning that one, the list goes on and on and yet simplistic is not the answer. We have all been guilty of doing our own thing and suffering the consequences, and yet as the Proverb says, then we blame God for our actions.
Eclipse, I understand what you are saying and yet history has shown unless there is a heart condition that is changed and accepted by everyone, there will be another to stand up and dominate his fellow man, history has shown in this world, peacable people are always dominated by another eventually. Just wishing for the best without a plan or a higher power to enforce that those who want peacable conditions, will go to the way side. As humans even our well intentioned thoughts and actions can still hurt others, I know that there were times I only meant good and it came out the wrong way or it backfired on me.
Frankiespeaking, perhaps you may get your chance to do just as you say you would. I think though when we meet our Creator and His appointed Judge, whether in a moment of time, after our death, a huge line is lined up and we have our appointment before Him. I think, the Bible will be right, "every knee will bend".
Respectfully,
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
it is not letting anyone live free
With all due respect, man has had a pretty free rein so to speak, this freedom has led to a world that is unrecognizable by anyone who is 40+ years old Those emails we all recieve about "do you remember" is so true. The world in which I grew up, was somewhat peacable, respectful, free from relative fear even though we had those nuclear sit under your desk drills,TV was not violent and children listened to their parents and teachers, elderly ones too had respect. AIDS didnt claim tens of millions of lives and leave children orphaned, terrorismnever was mentioned, mothers stayed home to raise the kids, we never ever even thought the earth would warm until millions might have to retreat from the seashore,Extreme in weather was not the norm, govermental rulers were always questionable but not exposed like this administration and others. People worked for a living and had something to show, instead of a country saturated in personal, govermental and corporate debt. People didnt kill other students at school, we had gun clubs and bow and arrow clubs where kids brought them to school without fear. Kids played and childhood obesity wasnt the norm and childhood diabetics, childhood heart disease wasnt ever spoken of. Everybody had insurance, everybody got the little childhood diseases and laughed at them. Video games featuring mass death and killing yet alone porn wasnt even thought of or spoken of. Kids learned how to get along, not kill or hurt someone seriously. Childhood suicides were not heard of. No one feared of flying except those with the fear of flight but not terrorism, airport security wasnt mentioned. These are only several things, the list could go on and on.
If this has all happened within the last 20 couple of years and IF this is the result of Freedom and Progress.
I ask "How much more freedom and Progress can we take"?
Respectly,
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
Any god who says 'obey me or die', is tyrannical by any stretch of the imagination
As a person who earns money or has children and pays for everything do you have the right or any parent to tell their children to act a certain way. Does not God have the right as well to tell us on how to act? Everything belongs to Him, including our breath, our energy,
If rulers, goverments, dictators, military men of higher rank, all have the right to tell someone how to act or there are consequences, does not God reserve that same right?
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
For those who say they will not change or say and do whatever, I respect that, however in my life I have had three guns pointed at me, one to my head and the others by shaking people who could have shot me by accident, You act different when it is right in front of you.
It is always to talk about dying and until we are faced with it or have given it some long hard thought and die for a purpose no matter what it may be, it is always easier said then done.
Saddam spoke boldly about it, but the man had a look of fear on his face. Hitler, Himmler and others who spoke and acted on death, when confronted with themselves took the cowardly way out. Dying isn't easy, talking is.
Respectfully,
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
That is what Paul said we should do if we were wrong in 1 Cor 15
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
By the way - is this a "What if you're wrong" -thread?
According Roms 3, none of us are right, I said the Bible is right, it is an honesty and truthful thought provoking thread
abr
there is a lot of threads going back and forth both ways, almost like a battle line has been drawn between believers and atheists.
however, let's just say for the sake of argument, that all religions including the witnesses, are wrong but the bible in itself is right.. everything that it has foretold is going to happen and just as god told noah, in 7 more days i am going to make it rain, but this time he now speaks to all of us and says in just 7 more days i will wipe the earth clean of all those who have or are revolting/disagree against me.. how would you react then?
how would you live your next 7 days?
Thanks Jeff for your honesty, very well put
abr