Chomsky interviewed on Flashpoints Audio
Our government is taking away our freedoms pass laws like the Patriot Act.
We are headed towrad fascism.
ok lets hear your pathetic excuses.
c'mon now don't be shy.
let's hear what you have to say.
Chomsky interviewed on Flashpoints Audio
Our government is taking away our freedoms pass laws like the Patriot Act.
We are headed towrad fascism.
ok lets hear your pathetic excuses.
c'mon now don't be shy.
let's hear what you have to say.
ok lets hear your pathetic excuses.
c'mon now don't be shy.
let's hear what you have to say.
First, when the massive pile of documents from Iraq appeared, in photos, in the paper, and the U.S. immediately pulled out all stops to get first access, to shut down wide dissemination, etc. -- the smart money said that buried in the morass there would be evidence of U.S. (and European) culpability in aiding the Iraqi weapons programs, dating back to before the Gulf War, but covering the period of Hussein's rise and his worst crimes, etc.
And lo and below...to be reported in tomorow's Die Tageszeitung (Berlin daily), here is a list of US corporations that alegedly supplied Iraq with nuclear, chemical, biological, and missile technology, prior to 1991. The list comes, it seems, from the original Iraqi report to the Security Council. This is a big breaking story in Europe - read the clip from this morning's Independent (London) below the list.
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U.S. corporations involved...
A - nuclear K - chemical B - biological R - rockets (missiles)
1) Honeywell (R,K)
2) Spektra Physics (K)
3) Semetex (R)
4) TI Coating (A,K)
5) UNISYS (A,K)
6) Sperry Corp. (R,K)
7) Tektronix (R,A)
8) Rockwell )(K)
9) Leybold Vacuum Systems (A)
10) Finnigan-MAT-US (A)
11) Hewlett Packard (A.R,K)
12) Dupont (A)
13) Eastman Kodak (R)
14) American Type Culture Collection (B)
15) Alcolac International (C)
16) Consarc (A)
17) Carl Zeis -U.Ss (K)
18) Cerberus (LTD) (A)
19) Electronic Assiciates (R)
20) International Computer Systems
21) Bechtel (K)
22) EZ Logic Data Systems,Inc. (R)
23) Canberra Industries Inc. (A)
24) Axel Electronics Inc. (A)
Additionally to these 24 companies based in the US, are nearly 50 subsidiaries of foreign enterprises whose arms co-operation with Iraq seems to have been operated from the US. In addition, Ministries for defense, energy, trade, and agriculture, as well as the foremost U.S. nuclear weapons laboratories at Lawrence Livermore. Los Alamos, and Sandia, are designated as suppliers for the Iraqi arms programs for A, B, and C-weapons as well as for rockets.
Here is the report from this morning's Independent, in London...
Leaked Report Says German and US Firms Supplied Arms to Saddam
By Tony Paterson
The Independent (UK)
Baghdad's uncensored report to UN names Western companies alleged to have developed its weapons of mass destruction.
Wednesday, 18 December, 2002
Iraq's 11,000-page report to the UN Security Council lists 150 foreign companies, including some from America, Britain, Germany and France, that supported Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction programme, a German newspaper said yesterday.
Berlin's left-wing Die Tageszeitung newspaper said it had seen a copy of the original Iraqi dossier which was vetted for sensitive information by US officials before being handed to the five permanent Security Council members two weeks ago. An edited version was passed to the remaining 10 members of the Security Council last night.
British officials said the list of companies appeared to be accurate. Eighty German firms and 24 US companies are reported to have supplied Iraq with equipment and know-how for its weapons programmes from 1975 onwards and in some cases support for Baghdad's conventional arms programme had continued until last year.
It is not known who leaked the report, but it could have come from Iraq. Baghdad is keen to embarrass the US and its allies by showing the close involvement of US, German, British and French firms in helping Iraq develop its weapons of mass destruction when the country was a bulwark against the much feared spread of Iranian revolutionary fervour to the Arab world.
The list contained the names of long-established German firms such as Siemens as well as US multi-nationals. With government approval, Siemens exported machines used to eliminate kidney stones which have a "dual use" high precision switch used to detonate nuclear bombs. Ten French companies were also named along with a number of Swiss and Chinese firms. The newspaper said a number of British companies were cited, but did not name them.
"From about 1975 onwards, these companies are shown to have supplied entire complexes, building elements, basic materials and technical know-how for Saddam Hussein's programme to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction," the newspaper said. "They also supplied rockets and complete conventional weapons systems," it added.
The five permanent members of the Security Council -- the United States, Britain, Russia, France and China -- have repeatedly opposed revealing the extent of foreign companies' involvement, although a mass of relevant information was collected by UN weapons inspectors who visited the country between 1991 and 1998. The UN claims that publishing the extent of the companies' involvement in Iraq would jeopardise necessary co-operation with such firms.
German involvement outstripped that of all the other countries put together, the paper said. During the period to 1991, the German authoritiespermitted weapons co-operation with Iraq and in some cases "actively encouraged" it, according to the newspaper which cited German assistance allegedly given to Iraq for the development of poison gas used in the 1988 massacre of Kurds in northern Iraq. It said that after the massacre America reduced its military co-operation with Iraq but German firms continued their activities until the Gulf War.
Die Tageszeitung quoted sources close to the US Vice President, Dick Cheney, as saying the Bush administration was hoping to prove a German company was continuing to co-operate with the Iraqi regime over the supply of equipment allegedly useful in the construction of weapons of mass destruction.
American weapons experts have recently voiced concern that the German Government has permitted Siemens to sell Baghdad at least eight sophisticated medical machines which contain devices that are vital for nuclear weapons. The machines, known as "lithotripters", use ultrasound to destroy kidney stones in patients. However, each machine contains an electronic switch that can be used as a detonator in an atomic bomb, according to US experts. Iraq was reported to have requested an extra 120 switches as "spare parts" during the initial transaction.
The delivery of the machines was approved by the European Commission and the UN because sanctions against Iraq do not apply to medical equipment. Siemens and the German Government have insisted that the machines, which are being used in northern Iraq under a World Health Organisation programme, cannot be used to make nuclear weapons.
ok lets hear your pathetic excuses.
c'mon now don't be shy.
let's hear what you have to say.
Fear is a tool that can effectively be exploited. That is how Hitler got the support he needed.
His propaganda about how they were threatended and they needed to attack in order to defend themselves.
one quick look at the trouble we face with north korea actually strengthens the case for military action in iraq.
here are the problems with face with n. korea.
they are even more notorious than iraq about breaking deals.
"War is Peace" .....?????
The truth is War is profitable.
one quick look at the trouble we face with north korea actually strengthens the case for military action in iraq.
here are the problems with face with n. korea.
they are even more notorious than iraq about breaking deals.
Iraq Is pryority because of the Oil. These are plans well before 911.
to this date, it has never been proved who is responsible for the atrocities of the twin towers' destruction.
an absolutely appalling act.
who is responsible?
Paul is making a point that there are two types of people those people who are of the flesh and those who are of the spirit.(Romans 8)The Israelites who are of the flesh are not of God. Those who are Israelites of the spirit are of God. But They are still Israelites.I am Mexican and I am spiritual so Im a spiritual Mexican I will never be a spiritual Israelite. My citizenship is a heavenly one,My King is Jesus Christ my Lord. He is the King of Israel and I am in his Kingdom. All believers through faith are sons of God Descecents of Abraham who was not a Jew. There is no Jew or Greek, we are all one body of Christian believers in a spiritual Government.(led by the spirit)Romans 11:1 I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? (What does the Bilble Say?) May it never be!Romans ll:25 For I do not want you, bretheren,to be uninformed of this mystery,lest you be wise in yoour own estimation,"that a partial hardening has happened to Israel Until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and thus ALL ISRAEL WILL BE SAVED just as it is written, " The Deliverer will come from Zion, he will remove ungodliness from Jacob."27 And This is my Covenant with them When I Take Away Their Sins....29 for the gifts and the calling of God are Irrevocable.30 For just as you once were disobedient to God but now have been shown mercy because of thier disobedience,so these also now hve been disobedient, in oreder that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. For God has shut up all in disobedience that He might show mercy to all.33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgements and unfathomable His ways!
to this date, it has never been proved who is responsible for the atrocities of the twin towers' destruction.
an absolutely appalling act.
who is responsible?
Looking at it from Bible perspective.
Israel will eventually be regrafted to the olive tree.
I agree with Yeru.
Romans, Ezequiel, and Zachariah have plenty to say on that.
to this date, it has never been proved who is responsible for the atrocities of the twin towers' destruction.
an absolutely appalling act.
who is responsible?
here is a Topic that discussed the identity of Israel in modern times.
some of you may recall him talking about losing 80 lbs in 8 months in this thread:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=43882&site=3.
well here are the pics:.
Jerrod (spelling?) eat your heart out.!
Subway sandwich diet.
Edited by - Emiliano on 15 January 2003 15:32:57