if i went back to the kingdom hall there would be no windows..lol!
!..and..many doctrines,i could no longer preach.i would be reprimanded,reproved or disfellowshipped for it!..doctrines we were told to preach,straight from god,given to us by the wbt$ are no longer valid.the wbt$ says so.......i left in 1974.i couldn`t preach "armageddon by 1975"..most jehovah`s witness`s will tell you wbt$ never made that prediction.although wbt$ liturature says otherwise....."jehovah`s witness will be the only ones who survive armageddon".now,no one knows....."jehovah`s witness`s can`t take blood transfusions".now they can use blood factions....."religion has no place with worldly organizations".the wbt$ had an assosiation with the united nations-ngo..make a big deal about that and you "will" be disfellowshipped!.....
"the generation of 1914 will not pass away.
What's this about gum chewing? It's frowned upon?
Hmmm...so that's why I got looks all the time as my wife and I passed gum to each other during the meetings...and also why no one accepted a piece from me when I offered. I can't believe I've been so oblivious to this. And all I was doing was trying to improve my breath for the upcoming song...showing love for my neighbors. Sheesh.
Erandir
i was watching a tv show last week called 'the chaser's war on everything".
for those who don't live in australia it's a political satire program.
one of their sketches was award ceremonies such as the oscars & the orchestra that cuts off the long and boring acceptance speeches.
That sounds hilarious. Thanks for the funny mental picture.
Reminds me of an episode of the Simpsons we saw a few years ago when Marge is describing how lonely she was, so lonely that she once invited JWs in to talk for 3 hours, but that they escaped when she went to the kitchen for drinks or something. My wife looked at each other and burst out laughing when we saw that.
Erandir
you know how jws don't 'shun', or at least pretend they don't, because they don't use the word 'shun'?
do you think that soon they won't 'disfellowship', just because the announcement is no longer "sass has been disfellowshipped", it's now "sass is no longer a jw".
technically, if i wasn't disfellowshipped, i can't say that i was disfellowshipped and that my family shun me.... i'm just no longer a jw, as if it was a choice i made.
This sounds similar to a new practice at work. In the past, the supervisor would announce that an employee has quit or has been fired or whatever, but now the new policy is that the supervisor announces that "So-so has decided no longer to pursue employment at this company." I think it is a way to avoid a lawsuit, but I'm not sure. I'm thinking slander or something like that maybe.
Seems like yet another practice taken from the business world...just like the whole sales and business meeting thing, I mean the TMS/Service meeting.
Erandir
The Colbert Report!
i was wondering if there are any current regular posters here that are still active , but are mentally inactive and don't believe all the bull anymore, and are just going through the motions to keep their life with friends and family together.. i realize this might be a posting that will probably get 0 replies, but.......
inactive for about 2 years...doing the fade...but still want to keep family and friends and still considered good association by a lot of them...weird, huh?
some people's avatars make me smile, others make me think.
there are some that i just love to look at.
here are some of my favorites off the top of my head.
why, mine, of course!
followed by AlmostAthiest...a fellow Ohioan...and futurama fan!
and i'm dropping out of school.
i think that this might be the only way for me to achieve my long time goal of finally getting into bethel!!
i feel so giddy.
If you don't like the term "Capable Wife," then how about charming mountain goat? (Or how does that scripture go?) maybe lovable hind?
(i'm new here, but i couldn't resist bringing those up...sorry if i offend)
friends,.
posts go up and get outranked so fast on this board.
this may have been put up already, but if so i missed it.. does anyone have a downloadable copy (image) of the 2006 cd?
I tried the link and the file wasn't available anymore. Any other links out there?
i guess the local kh is doing a special field service outing today, which my wife will be a part of...on christmas morning.
i think this is intrusive and disrespectful.. did any of you do fs on christmas?.
is this a common thing among jws?
I have been a witness for a few years now. Even before I started thinking about leaving the organization, I'd always felt it was intrusive and "over the top", as you say, to go out in field service on holidays. I knew exactly how I'd feel if someone came to my door on my day off, during a family get-together, or especially at 9:30 or 10:00 in the morning! For an organization that harps on being balanced in all things, I think they put way too much emphasis on the ministry. No wonder we meet with opposition and apathy so much in the U.S. And also, there are plenty of other witnesses who feel the same way I felt.
to what extent has the growth of the "fade" been facilitated by internet forums such as this?
sure there were people who chose to fade in the pre-internet era, simply by withdrawing themselves, gradually involving themselves with non-witnesses to a greater extent, or getting in touch with other ex-witnesses covertly through the convention system/telephone and mailing support network that used to be more important before the advent of the internet.
so the "fade" is not an invention of the internet era, not en entirely "new phenomenon".
Wow. I so relate to becca1. I have been inactive for a year now. I've been doing some research online, too. Basically I quit going to meetings and in the preaching work because of a couple things. Learning about things like the NGO deal and other historical facts of the Society was one thing. Another was a couple elders leading very poor examples (I won't elaborate right now). But the effect of all this was that I felt that I could no longer go out in the ministry and try to bring people into my congregation. I work nights, so I have a good enough excuse to miss the meetings because they conflict with my work schedule. Plus, 2 other elders basically know my grievances against the above-mentioned elders and are giving me some "space" to think about things. I don't know how long this will last, but so far I've been left alone. Anyway...this concept of "fading" is so cool. I was seriously considering disassociating, but I can seriously just keep doing what I'm doing (not attend, be inactive) and I don't have to disassociate? Won't I eventually be "disassociated" by the elders if I continue to not go to meetings or service? I really have no clue here. I've only been in the truth for about 6 years now. My wife knows how I feel, but she wants to keep on being a witness yet will keep my secret. I don't understand how her conscience allows this, but oh well...I won't complain. Anyway, I'd love to hear more about this "fading" concept. Meanwhile, I'll do more research. This forum is an eye-opener. Peace
