Oh, I almost forgot the most exciting part! We're all invited to a "Special Talk" on Sunday, April 6th at the local Kingdumb Halls!! Aren't you just thrilled to death?
Oh boy! Another meeting I'll be sure to miss! With gusto, I might add...
erandir
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just been to memorial
by 10p init was pretty ho hum.
probably the first time i've actually paid much attention to the talk (i used to be one of the puppets passing around the emblems) - it amazed me how little he talked about jesus, and how much revolved around the technicalties of the 144000. and is the number of anointed getting larger?
i thought it was down to 8-thousand something - he said it was 9 thousand and something last year??
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Who's Going to the Memorial Tonight?
by daniel-p inok everyone, who has to go to the memorial tonight?
check in here, state the reason you have to go, and when you get back, let us know how it went and your impressions.
for me, i have to go for my family--since i'm doing the fade i figure it won't kill me to go.
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erandir
That way they can head straight out to the bars afterward without going home first.
True dat! I never thought of it like that. Especially here in Ohio, since smoking in public places is now illegal! I oughta drive around town to see how many of their cars are parked outside the pubs.
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erandir
mmm...leftovers. that reminds me...i have some pizza in the fridge.
That "Where am I to go?" reminds me of what the elders tell doubting ones to try to keep them coming to the meetings.
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Who's Going to the Memorial Tonight?
by daniel-p inok everyone, who has to go to the memorial tonight?
check in here, state the reason you have to go, and when you get back, let us know how it went and your impressions.
for me, i have to go for my family--since i'm doing the fade i figure it won't kill me to go.
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erandir
I showed up yesterday at sundown because that is when the moon was full and therefore when the memorial should have taken place. (Thanks to all of you who showed us your research on the subject recently!) I was at the place where the memorial has been held in my town for the past several years. No one was there, so I went back home.
So...apparently, they are having the memorial tonight at the kingdum hall. How am I supposed to know these things? I haven't been to a meeting in well over a year.
Erm...that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
Seriously, I'm not going tonight. My wife is there, and I'll find out all I care to know when she gets back.
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Why is today the only day of the year when I feel guilty?
by And He Ran inwhy is today the only day of the year when i feel guilty about having left the jws?
it's memorial day and i didn't go.
my last memorial was in 2006. last year was my first non-attendance.
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erandir
And He Ran,
I'm in almost the same situation as you are. I didn't go last year (my first time), and I'm not going this year. My wife is getting ready to go. Her meeting is at 9 pm since our hall has 2 congos. I am not feeling guilty. Rather, I'm feeling a bit of anticipation...no...more likely it is a feeling of dread...because so far none of the elders has come to my door asking me why I haven't attended meetings in over a year, why I didn't go to the assemblies, the conventions, last year's memorial. So far my fade has been trouble-free. This year might be different, however.
The CO is coming soon after the memorial for his weeklong visit. Also, the hall switched from a larger venue to the hall this year for the memorial, so my absense will be more noticeable, I think. Plus, my wife will draw more attention this year because she is expecting, and all these things combined will make my absense stick out more and encourage an elder's visit...possibly with the CO in tow.
I do not welcome such a visit and will not invite them in. But still, it will be akward.
Hopefully something in this will relate to you and be helpful. I don't know.
Why do you feel guilty? Because of the years of programming, perhaps? The witnesses don't celebrate anything during the whole year except for that one thing.
Have you noticed how some people you never see at the meetings or out in service show up once a year at the memorial? And that's even encouraged. It is similar to Christians who only show up to church on special occasions like Easter, Christmas, Mother's Day, weddings, funerals. If they don't go, they feel guilty.
I am not going this year partly because of those who would look down on me as being one of those "memorial christians." I remember when I was "strong" in the congregation, how a few of the "friends" around me would make comments like that. The son of an elder told me his mom and dad called them "memorial christians" and basically looked down on them. What a wonderful example of someone in charge of the flock!
Good luck to you...and don't let yourself feel guilty. There is absolutely no reason. They don't have power over you...don't let them.
-Erandir
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Why exactly do you come to this board?
by R.Crusoe ini wondered if anyone, after starting to post here after so long being worried about doing, now just does it because they acn and hasn't stopped to ask why the still feel the need or even pleasure.. so why do you come here?.
do you know?.
it's not easy to completely explain what it is substiruting for imo!.
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erandir
Good ol' fashioned addiction...that's my reason
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Hello, I'm new...
by IcingHeart ini just joined this forum today after reading the comments on today's watchtower (which i have to attend in about an hour unfortunately).
i was raised in "the truth" and it was only recently that i began to listen to a close friend of mine as he pointed out the secrets and lies that is the watchtower society and governing body.
even though he was informing me for almost a year, he never gave up on me.
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erandir
You will find out here that Jesus Christ is the truth not the wts
Well...you'll at least find out that the WTS is not the truth.
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Hook Lines or Phrases Jehovah's Witnesses Use to Control You
by flipper into control a person, or control a group of people , any cult , including jehovah's witnesses , have to gain your trust that they are the authority on what you need to know.
even people have been known to use these " catch phrases " to gain trust , or " hook lines " as you'd call them to gain control over groups of people or individually in their own lives.
see if you are familiar with these phrases which empower the sender of the phrase , but demands rapt allegiance from listeners to be the " gospel truth " without challenge , which can take the listeners power away.
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erandir
"Right thinking individuals..."
"Sadly,..."
"He didn't have the right heart condition."
"He must not have had the truth to begin with."
"The Mother-like Organization..."
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if a jw became aware of a crime , what would theybe advised to do ?
by looloo inif a jw person found out some information that meant that thier husband /brother /son had perhaps abused a child that he had denied abusing afterall , if they went to see the elders would they be advised to say nothing , or go to the authorities ?
bear in mind that this perp is currently serving a prison term for children he had abused when he was a min servant , but got away with the other child ,because of lack of evidence .
this information was brought to light by the childs family , that made the perps family aware of it , any ideas , would it be a conscience thing or "wait on jehovah" thing ?
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erandir
In the case of finding a person in the house-to-house work who was doing something wrong or was in possession of drugs or whatever, I was always advised to ignore it and go on. Not that it ever happened to me, but the question did come up, and that seemed to be the standard replay.
I don't know if that was the standard for someone in the congregation doing something wrong/illegal. We were encouraged to tattle to the elders, mostly.
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NEW SCROLLS ANNOUNCED
by tula inso that this will be no surprise to you, and so you will not be swayed in your firm stand of holy spirit truth, i give you this.. .
in the coming months expect to hear this in the kh and the mags..... "for those of you who have heard of the association of the wts and the un and have patiently and faithfully waited on jehovah, we can now tell you our reasons for doing this.
it has all been under the direction of the fds.. this library card was necessary because..... there are very old manuscripts that have never been deciphered and they have been housed within that library.. through much prayer and careful consideration, jah directed for our team of translators, which are the best and most accurate in the world, to be a part of this great uncovering of the new scrolls.".
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The God formerly known as Jehovah .
Didn't a music star try this ? LOL
yeah, and the wts accepted him as well.