RR,
OUCH!!!I`m amazed, what d`ya think of singer Robbie Williams?
Englishman.
chag and i were having a chuckle recently about how god was starting to resemble charlton heston, (or maybe it was the other way around), so i thought: which famous personages do the past presidents of the wtbts resemble most?.
charles t russell...........charles darwin.. judge rutherford............w.c.fields.. n.h.knorr...................phil silvers.
(sgt.
RR,
OUCH!!!I`m amazed, what d`ya think of singer Robbie Williams?
Englishman.
chag and i were having a chuckle recently about how god was starting to resemble charlton heston, (or maybe it was the other way around), so i thought: which famous personages do the past presidents of the wtbts resemble most?.
charles t russell...........charles darwin.. judge rutherford............w.c.fields.. n.h.knorr...................phil silvers.
(sgt.
Chag and I were having a chuckle recently about how God was starting to resemble Charlton Heston, (or maybe it was the other way around), so I thought: Which famous personages do the past presidents of the WTBTS resemble most?
Here`s what I have come up with:
Charles T Russell...........Charles Darwin.
Judge Rutherford............W.C.Fields.
N.H.Knorr...................Phil Silvers. (Sgt. Bilko)
Fred Franz..................Christopher Lee.(Hammer House of Horror)
Milton Henschel.............Capt. Picard (Star Trek N.G.)
Englishman (Who was once told that he resembled Billy Fury, yeah, OK you good US people, who the heck was Billy Fury, I hear it!)
when you look at the news headlines concerning the many out of control pestilences, i can't help but think of the scripture in revelation chapter 6 verse 8, what do you all think about this subject?
Actually, Specs, it`s not a pale horse but a white horse.
"The White Horse" is an excellent London Pub.
The White Horse is also a brand of excellent whisky.
Regards,
Englishman.
people are stupid.
sometimes that is the only way to describe how certain things can happen.
especially is this so when panic, stress or hormones kick in which often serves only dilutes whatever common sense is left remaining.. a couple of examples:.
I heard about a guy in Birmingham, England, who needed a sawn-off shotgun to rob a bank. He stole the shotgun, duly sawed of the barrel and stock, went to the bank and was immediately arrested before he could pull the shortened weapon from out of his trousers.
The police later discovered that the ruined shotgun was one of a pair of Purdeys, valued at around £55,000, about $88,000.
Englishman.
i've been thinking about americans.
specifically about whether the wt, being an american dominated religion, forces american attitudes and culture upon other nations.. now, don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-american.
living in canada i have a lot of contact with many americans.
OK, what about hats? Now before everyone says that Englishman has lost his marbles, let me tell you about American influence on JW fashions.
When I first started to be hauled along to the meetings back in the 50`s, I noticed immediately that most of the men donned Homburg type hats for the journey home, often they wore these hats in summer, no coat, just a suit. Virtually only JW`s were thus attired. Yet you look at a 50`s US street scene in a movie, and that is how many American males were dressed.
Same with spectacles, gold plated ear hooks and rimless lenses, a` la Nathan Knorr, every circuit servant strived for the Nathan look - ever seen pics of Sadams pals aping Sadam, - very scary!
Neck ties were also very US in style back then, kipper wide with a painted pic as I recall.
Englishman.
i've been thinking about americans.
specifically about whether the wt, being an american dominated religion, forces american attitudes and culture upon other nations.. now, don't get me wrong, i'm not anti-american.
living in canada i have a lot of contact with many americans.
6 O`9,
This is quite an interesting thread. Correct me if I`m mistaken, but it seems to me that Expat is asking whether the American culture is more accepting of the WTBTS`s foibles because the organisation is intrinsically an American one.
It appears to me that America is much more religious than, say, the UK. Author Bill Bryson (US) says in his book "Notes from a Big Country" that his home in New England is quiet and law abiding, but that for certain crimes the penalties are draconian. This seems to fit in with the way that the WTBTS treats its own "lawbreakers", a "once you are on the outside you are worthless type of mentality".
The WTBTS mistake is in not adapting itself to what is acceptable in other countries, the disfellowshipping policy is regarded with disbelief amongst the UK public, who find it an incredibly loathsome practice, even worse than refusing blood. This is probably because the DF`ing policy has no "martyr value" whatsoever.
The WTBTS`s failure to adapt to local customs is very strange; most Americans that I have met who are in the UK for the first time are eager to find out UK customs. Once they step outside the pricey London Marriott, they forget all about air-conditioning, quickly learn to say "Bloody hell" every other word, and generally enjoy themselves hugely. One American I met seemed amazed that he could drink as much beer as he could handle, he said that where he lived, Washington DC, I think, that he was restricted to 3 half-pintsin one session.
I think that the cultural differences between the USA and Europe is possibly why the apostate movement has become so prevalent over here, particularly in the UK, where any type of authority is subject to derision. If that authority is also religious and from abroad, then the whole movement is on a loser.
On a personal note, let me say that I much enjoy reading posts from the USA, some of the humour is superb.
Englishman.
judgemental and closeminded were exact descriptions of my former jw self.. recently on another forum, someone posted a cartoon depicting the character urinating on the bible.
i had an immediate revulsion and concluded this was not appropriate, letting the poster know my thoughts.
other's on the forum did not see it as i did.
G` Mornin`, Wendy,
I think that Danny Bear is saying that, despite leavug the JW`s, he still has a tendency to be critical, and criticism is deeply entrenched into JW`s.
I have a few friends that still carry around witness tendencies, the most obvious one is that they still practise their own brand of disfellowshipping. My ex-wife, who has been DF`d 3 times, stopped me attending my daughters surprise 30th birthday party yesterday because she wouldn`t "have me under her roof", and we`ve been divorced for 28 years!
I`ve also noticed that some posters on these sort of forums, have a tendency to forever be shouting "Liar!" when they disagree with some comment. Now that is a witnessy trait!
Englishman.
when viv mouritz , former branch coordinator in australia, addressed the special meeting of sydney and surrounding area congregations at the superdome last weekend, he blamed the young witnesses who were leaving "the truth" for the drop in numbers in australia.. at the service meeting this week in one sydney congregation it was announced by a bethel elder that the elders have been told (as if they didn't know already!
) that 2,000 have left "the truth" in the past two years in australia.
this typical congregation of 120 publishers has lost 19 inactive since 1999.. the march 2001 issue of kingdom ministry (australian edition) gives the number of publishers for december as 58,426, pioneers 3,315 and 19 baptized.. in dec '98 there were 58,706 pubs,and in dec '99 there were 58,000.. with 1,600-1,800 being baptized each year, there is indeeed a 2,000 shortfall.. so, who's to blame?
Evenin`Danny Bear,
If you are going Down Under and intend to gaze fondly upon the local lassies, you will have to learn the art of AUSSIE FOREPLAY. It goes like this:
"Brace yerself for a good shaggin`, Sheila!"
Englishman - who is staying put in Englands green and pleasant land. PS, Green = rain.
ever look at the lyrics to the jw songs?
what a riot, i can't believe i sang them, although i can remember laughing at the meetings while singing some of them.. iknow that in this crucial hour.
my faith will yet be tested.. around me swarms the devils crowd.
Nicolaou,
Re wedding marches, my wifes friend asked for the theme from "Robin Hood - Prince of thieves" made famous by Bryan Adams as Everything I do I do for you.
What she actually got was the theme from the 50`s TV series, so she galloped down the (church) aisle to:
Robin Hood, Robin Hood,
Riding through the glen
Robin Hood, Robin Hood
With his band of men.
Feared by the bad, loved by the good, Robin Hood, Robin Hood.
- It does sound a bit witnessy eh?
Englishman.
isn`t it strange that jw`s have such a problem with ex`s?
try as they might to hang their watchtower labels onto me, i just don`t seem to be the person that they think that i should be!.
i think that i`ve become far more honest than the average jw.
OK, me old Tractor Boy Expatbrit,
Here is the scene from "Life of Brian":
OFFICIAL:
You have been found guilty by the elders of the town of uttering the name of our Lord, and so, as a blasphemer,...
CROWD:
Ooooh!
OFFICIAL:
...you are to be stoned to death.
CROWD:
Ahh!
MATTHIAS:
Look. I-- I'd had a lovely supper, and all I said to my wife was, 'That piece of halibut was good enough for Jehovah.'
CROWD:
Oooooh!
OFFICIAL:
Blasphemy! He's said it again!
CROWD:
Yes! Yes, he did! He did!...
OFFICIAL:
Did you hear him?!
CROWD:
Yes! Yes, we did! We did!...
WOMAN #1:
Really!
[silence]
OFFICIAL:
Are there any women here today?
CROWD:
No. No. No. No...
OFFICIAL:
Very well. By virtue of the authority vested in me--
[CULPRIT WOMAN stones MATTHIAS]
MATTHIAS:
Oww! Lay off! We haven't started yet!
OFFICIAL:
Come on! Who threw that? Who threw that stone? Come on.
CROWD:
She did! She did! He did! He! He. He. Him. Him. Him. Him. He did.
CULPRIT WOMAN:
Sorry. I thought we'd started.
OFFICIAL:
Go to the back.
CULPRIT WOMAN:
Oh, dear.
OFFICIAL:
Always one, isn't there? Now, where were we?
MATTHIAS:
Look. I don't think it ought to be blasphemy, just saying 'Jehovah'.
CROWD:
Oooh! He said it again! Oooh!...
OFFICIAL:
You're only making it worse for yourself!
MATTHIAS:
Making it worse?! How could it be worse?! Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!
CROWD:
Oooooh!...
OFFICIAL:
I'm warning you. If you say 'Jehovah' once more--
[MRS. A. stones OFFICIAL]
Right. Who threw that?
[silence]
Come on. Who threw that?
CROWD:
She did! It was her! He! He. Him. Him. Him. Him. Him. Him.
OFFICIAL:
Was it you?
MRS. A.:
Yes.
OFFICIAL:
Right!
MRS. A.:
Well, you did say 'Jehovah'.
CROWD:
Ah! Ooooh!...
[CROWD stones MRS. A.]
OFFICIAL:
Stop! Stop, will you?! Stop that! Stop it! Now, look! No one is to stone anyone until I blow this whistle! Do you understand?! Even, and I want to make this absolutely clear, even if they do say 'Jehovah'.
CROWD:
Ooooooh!...
[CROWD stones OFFICIAL]
WOMAN #1:
Good shot!
[clap clap clap]
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