well those are all very good and very valid questions. I personally am in the "truth" only for the family. I will always love my family but i can't be a hypocrite forever and definitely not for the sake of a mind-controlling cult. I dread the idea that my parents unconditional love only extends within the unrealistic confines of an unrealistic religion. I trust that deep down inside my mother will always love despite of my choices although she might not show. Im not entirely sure if i am mentally or physically ready to leave although i doubt i ever will feel completely comfortable with the concept. Fear of the unknown is something everyone must deal with i suppose. I dont have much time at the moment to answer all those questions but i'll be able to later
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uh oh
by thebiggestlie inwell this is kind of funny.
and i suppose jws including my parents with my dad being an elder, will find that this is the result of angelic direction or whatever .
yesterday i was outside my place of employement and lit up a cigarette.
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uh oh
by thebiggestlie inwell this is kind of funny.
and i suppose jws including my parents with my dad being an elder, will find that this is the result of angelic direction or whatever .
yesterday i was outside my place of employement and lit up a cigarette.
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thanks for fixing my formatting bro...firefox is a blessing and a curse
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uh oh
by thebiggestlie inwell this is kind of funny.
and i suppose jws including my parents with my dad being an elder, will find that this is the result of angelic direction or whatever .
yesterday i was outside my place of employement and lit up a cigarette.
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well this is kind of funny. And i suppose JWs including my parents with my dad being an elder, will find that this is the result of angelic direction or whatever
Yesterday i was outside my place of employement and lit up a cigarette. I have been an occasional smoker for 3 or so years. At the very most being a pack every 2 weeks. Well guess who pulls up next to me just as i light the sinful object? Pioneer/elders daughter. She immediately gets out of her car to confront me. I drop the still smoldering object like its the plague and quickly place my left foot over it and whip out a stick of gum before she can get to me. She first just gives me a look and makes some smalltalk and i of course play along acting like she didnt see anything then she gets serious. "Now don't play with me nicholas. When i pulled up did i see something?" she asks sternly. With a deer-in-the-headlights look i quickly respond with "like what? I'm not so sure i'm following what your asking." To combat my blatant lie she inquisitively prods further "...you know im not here to cause any riffs or anything, but when i pulled up you either had a pen or...or something...tell me the truth where you smoking?" SHeepishly trying my hardest to not sound too defensive i say "what? are you serious of course not?" and she says "well whats in your bag?" and points to my messanger bag AKA 'man-purse'. I empty the bag turning it upside down and shake out every last of its contents. (only revealing a lighter to which i explained by saying i often burn incense and light candles) but in my bag i had such smoking devices. SHe then asks me to lift my left foot which i hesitantly do to reveal the almost full cigarette smashed underneath my foot. (oops) After thumbling around for a while trying to explain things i tell her that i must go back to work and didnt have time to talk. SHe walks back to her car and says "well my mistake then.." in a tone that let me know that she knew the real truth of the matter. Fifteen minutes later she comes in to buy a coffee drink at my work (i work at panera bread) and she acts like nothing happened. Well for the rest of the night i was dreading the idea of going home and confronting my parents who i was convinced had inevitably been made aware of the aforementioned situation. I feared the worse and debated all night whether i'd spill the beans or continue to argue for my innocence. Well when i got home nothing was out of the ordinary. which to me meant either they knew and where biding there time or that the elders daughter hadn't yet ratted me out. Well that was yesterday and just fifteen minutes ago i overheard a phone conversation with my father and the girls father discussing some topics from the elders book. I overheard my father mutter something to the effect of "...citation on page #...confronting the guilty...confession....two witnesses". So i do believe i am relatively screwed and at this moment im expecting a lovely meeting with the elders tommorow night following the TMS meeting. So does anyone have any advice as to how i should deal with this. Regardless of the witnesses policies i realise i brought this upon myself to an extent and lying is nothing im proud of, but should i continue to uphold my "innocense" in attempt of gaining safety out of the "two-witness" rule? or should i "come clean" and play the "i'm guilty and feel so bad" card? any advice is welcome.....oh and if everything hits the fan i may tell them how i really feel about the society...who knows...argh
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Music Fans!! Once again I Ask, What's Your Top 10 Favorite Albums?
by flipper inhello gang!
didn't think i'd let you off easy did you?
this one might really make us dig into our personal archives!
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elliott smith - elliott smith (actually i could list every one of his albums as my favourites but this one takes the cake for me)
rubber soul - the beatles
compathia - six organs of admittance
the ugly organ - cursive
Noah's ark -CocoRosie
Cripple Crow - Devendra Banhart
Burn! Piano island Burn! - The Blood Brothers
Eternal Sunshine of the spotless mind - (soundtrack) Jon Brion
Paper Bag - Fionna Apple
Amnesiac - Radiohead
Milk Eyed Mender - Joanna Newsom
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letter from my parents
by thebiggestlie innicholas,.
just want you to know how much dad and i love you.
we love you so much that we dont ever want anything bad to happen to you.
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i must thank you all for your warm open and genuine advice. In fact i must say i agree with my parents letter despite the plug for the WTBS. I know they care. I know they think they are right. And i know they love me. ALl i can do is prove them wrong by my actions i suppose
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letter from my parents
by thebiggestlie innicholas,.
just want you to know how much dad and i love you.
we love you so much that we dont ever want anything bad to happen to you.
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no i did not move out....they placed the letter on my bed and i got it when i got home....
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letter from my parents
by thebiggestlie innicholas,.
just want you to know how much dad and i love you.
we love you so much that we dont ever want anything bad to happen to you.
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no i did not move out....they placed the letter on my bed and i got it when i got home....
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letter from my parents
by thebiggestlie innicholas,.
just want you to know how much dad and i love you.
we love you so much that we dont ever want anything bad to happen to you.
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i intend to respond to this letter with a letter of my own explaining how i actually feel as painful as it may be for them but i need help writing that letter any ideas? i know the consequences of taking such an action and i am prepared to face them. Dont try to persuade me otherwise. But this has got me distraught and torn. Torn between truth and torn between my family and there love despite how misled and warped they may be....sigh
i dont know what to think
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letter from my parents
by thebiggestlie innicholas,.
just want you to know how much dad and i love you.
we love you so much that we dont ever want anything bad to happen to you.
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Nicholas,
Just want you to know how much dad and I love you. We love you so much that we don’t ever want anything bad to happen to you. We know that this is a difficult time for you. You want…need independence yet you are inexperienced. You have doubts about the truth but we believe that in your heart you know it is. We know it is difficult to live by especially if you are drawn to the world We know that you are lonely and want friends but worldy ones are not the answer. You scared us when you left with them in the car and even though you were ok then that doesn’t mean you will be in the future. Your going to be 18 soon and you will soon be held accountable to the law and worldly people can get you to do things that you might not normally do. Peer preasure can be very strong and it might not even mean that you are doing anything wrong but merely that you are in the wrong place at the wrong time. Even if nothing like that should happen you have been taught all your life about bad associations. NICHOLAS PLEASE DON’T THROW AWAY YOUR SPIRITUAL HERITAGE! Remember all who love you. (list names of friends and relatives) and especially Jehovah, give them a chance! Set spiritual goals for yourself (pioneering) study praying mediation will help you reach these goals We will help you all you need. Reach out to the friends at the hall! “ quotes 3 john:4) It might be hard but pray and rely on Jehovah. Talk to us and tell us how you feel. Write down your feelings We love you so much!Always,
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you can't count to infinity...
by return visitor inbecause you can always add another number.
well, the bible says god had no begining, if this is true than an infinite number if events would have to take place before he created the heavens and the earth.
you couldn't say that it was the first thing he did because if you went back to that point in time god would have still been there infinitely before that.
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what about the idea of god existing outside of the concept of time....although that would imply that god at some point created time which implies an effect...we all know that "cause and effect" are tenants that require time to be functional...so...i dont know haha