Posts by nelim

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Marc & Cora on YouTube causing unnecessary divisions

by jambon1 in

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what is it with this pair?

why do they have to constantly have a bitch about guys like john cedars?

a very recent video of them shows them calling him a 'village idiot' and making other disparaging claims.

nelim

I do not like but it is his attitude, especially when it comes to constructive criticism

So you make a comment about his beard, he doesn't agree and then you complain he doesn't take "constructive criticism"? Such a poor generalization. He probably also has a mirror you know... and a wife... So probably he knows what he looks like.

I actually went back to see his comments here, the end is a fight but farther back it looks positive to me and he gets positive replies. But maybe there already was a negative sentiment it's hard to see.

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The Governing Body Fails the Test on Falsifiable Claims

by OneGenTwoGroups in

the governing body of jws has made several claims that are actually falsifiable.

and, sure enough, they were falsified.

the soviet union is the king of the north.

nelim

The point about falsifiable is that the claims could be falsified. These claims have already been proved false. So actually, they would have passed the test (the claims were falsifiable) but they were indeed false. The idea is of course to claim true things, not false ones, lol.

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My Dad wants to study with me

by BlackWolf in

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so my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.

the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.

he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.

nelim

Use his anger against him next time, if God's spirit can't help him to control anger, then this is not for you.

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Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?

by Simon in

it's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.

some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.

i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.

nelim

Phizzy, that's more or less the point: among JWs there will be suicides for reasons just like in the general population, but also due to DF or other policies. Those reasons combined would make the JW rate higher than average.

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Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?

by Simon in

it's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.

some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.

i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.

nelim

1440 means 1 per congregation per year?? Aren't there like 100.000 congregations worldwide? Would be 1 per congregation every 70 years or so.

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Serious question..Leviticus 20:15 Why slay the beast???

by James Mixon in

it's not as if the sheep was trying to seduce the shepherd, the poor creature was violated.

we have come a long way from those days, thank goodness.

so why slay the sheep or beast?????

nelim

Smiddy, that depends on whether the beast screamed or not.

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Inevitable Life - Video

by cofty in

very interesting lecture and q&a session by professor eric smith of the santa fe institute.

in his discussion of the primacy of energy there is a lot of overlap with the ideas of nick lane of university college london.

if you still think abiogenesis had something to do with "primordial soup" you should invest half an hour to watch this.. ....

nelim

Very interesting thanks. Very funny, the "heaven" vs "hell" origin theories!

Although this is only one step: he argues it is inevitable that certain oils exist (given that there is hydrogen and carbon dioxide). This is still far from (self-replicating) RNA, he admits in the Q&A section. Whether that is also inevitable is an open question that needs teamwork between chemistry, physics and biology.

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How Algae Could Change The Fossil Fuel Industry

by Brokeback Watchtower in

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its sounds too good to be true but hey technology is increasing and we have moore's law working in our favor and quantum computers in production already which i think will lead to even more sophisticated solutions to our problems that need solutions.. i think they will make it cheaper and cheaper to live and for everybody to benefit from it, making wars a thing of the past once countries have enough resources.

is it too good to be true?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycnkmi7ve0i.

nelim

The algae have been researched for a long time already. The problem is that the most productive species are also the easiest to get a disease. It's a trade-off in a sense. Use energy for oil production or use it for defense and fight your enemies. So either the efficiency is not there, or it doesn't scale up well. In the end, it's just too costly.

Also I'm not sure about a sandwich built from weed ;)

But who knows, maybe there will be a breakthrough enabling commercial production. Using bio-ethanol is very compatible to current gasoline so it's very attractive from that point of view.

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Speaker and Interpreter Ratings

by wifibandit in

september 27, 2016 to all bodies of elders re: recommending convention speakers and interpreters.

september 28, 2016 to all bodies of elders having bethel brothers in their congregation re: convention speaker ratings for bethel brothers.

s-315-e 9/16 speaker and interpreter ratings.

nelim

Of course, an underline to emphasize that the sisters' opinion is to be as limited as possible. Hahaha so sad!

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How the Present G.B. Deceives its Followers/Readers....................

by The Searcher in

............into believing that inferred "statements" are actual facts, while never stating anything!

w07 1/1 p. 28 pars.

11,12 "the first resurrection"—now under way!

nelim

Undoubtedly