Phizzy, that's more or less the point: among JWs there will be suicides for reasons just like in the general population, but also due to DF or other policies. Those reasons combined would make the JW rate higher than average.
Posts by nelim
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Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?
by Simon init's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.
some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.
i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.
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nelim
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Jehovah's Witness / ex-JW Suicide Rate?
by Simon init's no secret that both remaining a jw or leaving the wts can take a toll on mental health.
some will suffer from depression and ultimately some will have thoughts of suicide and a few will succumb to those.. but i don't recall ever seeing any hard stats or studies on it though.
i'm sure we all know of some people who have committed suicide but i don't know if, because you may have loose association with a much larger pool of people through the religion, that this only seems higher or maybe not be actually higher than the general population.. what i mean is, you go to a kh here there maybe 100-150 people, you attend circuit and district conventions with many tens of thousands - if any one person commits suicide then you likely hear about it and it becomes part of the anecdotal 'evidence' that is then put forward as a fact that there is a higher rate ... but is there?.
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nelim
1440 means 1 per congregation per year?? Aren't there like 100.000 congregations worldwide? Would be 1 per congregation every 70 years or so.
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Serious question..Leviticus 20:15 Why slay the beast???
by James Mixon init's not as if the sheep was trying to seduce the shepherd, the poor creature was violated.
we have come a long way from those days, thank goodness.
so why slay the sheep or beast?????
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nelim
Smiddy, that depends on whether the beast screamed or not.
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Inevitable Life - Video
by cofty invery interesting lecture and q&a session by professor eric smith of the santa fe institute.
in his discussion of the primacy of energy there is a lot of overlap with the ideas of nick lane of university college london.
if you still think abiogenesis had something to do with "primordial soup" you should invest half an hour to watch this.. ....
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nelim
Very interesting thanks. Very funny, the "heaven" vs "hell" origin theories!
Although this is only one step: he argues it is inevitable that certain oils exist (given that there is hydrogen and carbon dioxide). This is still far from (self-replicating) RNA, he admits in the Q&A section. Whether that is also inevitable is an open question that needs teamwork between chemistry, physics and biology.
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How Algae Could Change The Fossil Fuel Industry
by Brokeback Watchtower inits sounds too good to be true but hey technology is increasing and we have moore's law working in our favor and quantum computers in production already which i think will lead to even more sophisticated solutions to our problems that need solutions.. i think they will make it cheaper and cheaper to live and for everybody to benefit from it, making wars a thing of the past once countries have enough resources.
is it too good to be true?.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycnkmi7ve0i.
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nelim
The algae have been researched for a long time already. The problem is that the most productive species are also the easiest to get a disease. It's a trade-off in a sense. Use energy for oil production or use it for defense and fight your enemies. So either the efficiency is not there, or it doesn't scale up well. In the end, it's just too costly.
Also I'm not sure about a sandwich built from weed ;)
But who knows, maybe there will be a breakthrough enabling commercial production. Using bio-ethanol is very compatible to current gasoline so it's very attractive from that point of view.
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Speaker and Interpreter Ratings
by wifibandit inseptember 27, 2016 to all bodies of elders re: recommending convention speakers and interpreters.
september 28, 2016 to all bodies of elders having bethel brothers in their congregation re: convention speaker ratings for bethel brothers.
s-315-e 9/16 speaker and interpreter ratings.
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nelim
Of course, an underline to emphasize that the sisters' opinion is to be as limited as possible. Hahaha so sad!
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How the Present G.B. Deceives its Followers/Readers....................
by The Searcher in............into believing that inferred "statements" are actual facts, while never stating anything!
w07 1/1 p. 28 pars.
11,12 "the first resurrection"—now under way!
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nelim
Undoubtedly
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Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 inhad two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.
this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.
they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.
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nelim
nicolaou, is it wrong to form an alliance to fight a common enemy, even though you don't share the same beliefs with that ally?
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UK 2016 Sheffield Convention
by darkspilver inthis is actually, cinematographically, a pretty good video, certainly better then most of them anyway!.
1 to 3 july 2016 at sheffield arena, uk.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ra2ji909w.
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nelim
Hmm this 'best' in yellow suggests they have seen the hash tag 'worst convention ever'. Here's hoping that some also read the reasons why it was the worst.
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Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)
by Sanchy inso my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.
about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.
i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.
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nelim
pale.emperor, ha ha! But what's the likelihood of sharing a post about a book one hasn't read? The elders will still consider sharing the post as encouraging others to read this book, whatever you say.