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  Armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'? Irrefutable Proof the Watchtower Said 1975 Was "Game Over!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  it's hard to know where to put this link to a polish book some of you older members probably read, while our newer members are seeking answers to questions the watchtower vehemently deny's!

  do i put this under "jw scandals" or "jw beliefs"?

  for decades without the internet many of us did not have access to all the publications written by early watchtower writers because access was hard, only men like raymond franz jr(god rest his brave soul) had the golden key for entering the library of all publications jws made.. can some of the older members remember people who sold their homes and others who bought things in the summer or fall of 1974 knowing they won't be paying for their purchases because jehovah will destroy all the creditors records when he kills them!

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  jhine, why do you think we lost a large amount of witnesses after 1975, they either had to file bankruptcy and continue to follow the Cult or get a job and pay off all those nasty loans. I know people who sold their property and sent the money to the Watchtower, later it was learned they were putting money in to Government Bonds and Stocks too, how ironic?

  How come the Watchtower was not spending every single penny in 1972-1974 trying to warn people? They had enough cash for all the Pioneers to stop working and help Aux Pioneers by covering their expenses. They could have paid for all the Elders in each Kingdom Hall to Pioneer but their lack of faith in Jehovah bringing about the End is shown by their investments in Stocks and Bonds, not investing in every capable Jehovah Witness to Pioneer, they were so greedy and still people are stupid to follow them straight to Hell!
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  Armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'? Irrefutable Proof the Watchtower Said 1975 Was "Game Over!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  it's hard to know where to put this link to a polish book some of you older members probably read, while our newer members are seeking answers to questions the watchtower vehemently deny's!

  do i put this under "jw scandals" or "jw beliefs"?

  for decades without the internet many of us did not have access to all the publications written by early watchtower writers because access was hard, only men like raymond franz jr(god rest his brave soul) had the golden key for entering the library of all publications jws made.. can some of the older members remember people who sold their homes and others who bought things in the summer or fall of 1974 knowing they won't be paying for their purchases because jehovah will destroy all the creditors records when he kills them!

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  It's hard to know where to put this link to a Polish book some of you older members probably read, while our newer members are seeking answers to questions the Watchtower vehemently deny's! Do I put this under "JW Scandals" or "JW Beliefs"? For decades without the Internet many of us did not have access to all the publications written by early Watchtower writers because access was hard, only men like Raymond Franz Jr(God rest his brave soul) had the golden key for entering the library of all publications JWs made.

  Can some of the older members remember people who sold their homes and others who bought things in the Summer or Fall of 1974 knowing they won't be paying for their purchases because Jehovah will destroy all the Creditors records when he kills them! How many people do you remember left the Organization and were with just right, mad as hell? I remember a few, one bought a new house up in the HIlls (expensive house near Malibu Beach on credit), another bought the most expensive motor-home and vacation trailers, others more cars, motor-bikes things they could not afford as eventually many went financially bankrupt. This proud habit of living in the fringes of your income by making the minimum payment happened again in the 1984-1989 as people thought 1986-1994 was the assured date of the Second Coming. Where is this promised presence the Watchtower claims "Who us, we never said it, zealous foolish Witnesses did! We just said "look out for strange events" as they poured gas on any event they could induce their trademarked "Watchtower Instant Fear" tonic.

  For you younger ones, here's a link to the Polish authors book where he proves the leaders of the Watchtower promoted the 1975 agenda. What experiences did you have growing up as we grew near to 1975, all I could think about was my friends in 3rd grade were going to die with all my sisters friends too.

  Author: Wlodzimierz Bednarski
  
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  19 and Counting Pedophile Church Coverup, their just like the Watchtower! "Real Time" Pedophile Scandal!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/21/people-duggar-family-speaks-after-josh-duggar-accused-molestation.

  have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!.

  "posted may 21 2015 6:51 pm edt.

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  • rip van winkle13 hours ago

    Thanks for posting this, Phil."
    
    
    
    
    
    
    That's why I am here, to try to help and seek answers in our struggle to understand why we allowed them control over our bodies, brains and hearts, they certainly never earned our respect looking back how they treated us. My sister was molested by a pedophile and the elders told her "You must wait upon Jehovah" a gazillion times, even as time has moved by decades the pedophile stole something from her too. The Congregation turned against her because she wanted justice, it took ten years to get him removed as COBE of their Kingdom Hall because the Watchtower liked all his construction skills, gifts of money and time. They knew he was a sexual predator and allowed him to remain in his position because was useful and she was considered "fringe", "weak", "not a Pioneer", it's all about what you do and not how much you loved God
    
    
    
    
    
    
    The pain and suffering inflicted by the Perp is one thing, yet that's seem's like it's not enough for Satan and his evil beings. They want the church and it's ministers to shred any dignity and silence the cries of all victims of sexual abuse happening in Jehovah's Holy Organization. It took twenty years before I learned about her abuse, she buried this away because the "Organization of Jehovah needs a clean name", "My church right or wrong" attitude. Pain from being a victim plus the Organization that's suppose to comfort you and throws you under a bus and followed by a steam-roller, that's how Jehovah's Witnesses operated in the few cases I saw. They were so stressed this information would hit the public, they begged the victims to allow them to handle and perform justice, it never happened!
    
    
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  Fresno man facing murder charge after shooting a Jehovah’s Witness who refused blood transfusion

  by Tenacious in

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  a fresno man is facing murder charges in court this week for the shooting death of a jehovahs witness who later died after refusing a blood transfusion.. according to police, quevedo and silva argued over over gang membership with quevedo returning later in the evening to shoot silva through the security door at his home.. silva reportedly told a fresno police officer jehovah, jehovah, im dying, im dying, as he was taken to a hospital where he died during surgery after refusing a blood transfusion because he was a jehovahs witness.. it is the belief of many jehovahs witnesses that it is against gods will to have a blood transfusion.. according to defense attorney antonio alvarez, quevedo should not have been charged with murder because silva refused a transfusion that could have saved his life.. prosecutor gabriel brickey disagrees and will call fresno county pathologist michael chambliss to testify that, even if silva had received the transfusion, he would have died because one bullet hit a a major vein.. quevedo has already served time in prison for felony battery and theft and was on supervised release when he was arrested for shooting silva.. if convicted of murder he would face life in prison.. original story with suspect picture can be found here: fresno shooting.

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  There was a JW Pioneer former gang banger, he left the gang and found the truth until the elders stumbled him back to gang-land. This brother really tried his best to leave the past behind but all the elders would screw with him once he got baptized. They harrassed him over his dress, his working with single sisters(a no! no!) and married ones too, finally he succumbed to Satan as the elders spread and is back in jail until 2024. Did I mention he was a decent man and tried to change his past?

  Why look for "fringe people" if all your going to do is stumble them out the door because they won't kiss your ring or robe? That's why the Elders really hated him, he refused to kiss their ass, fingers and robes so they assaulted him verbally until he threatened to kick their ass. All this is from a reliable person and I asked this gang-banger if all was true, reluctantly putting his head down during the pre-trial he said "I had a very good thing, wish it was possible to ignore all Satan's assaults from me but someone had to stand up to those evil bastards(Elder Body).
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  17 year old son is blaming me for ruining his life from the Cult. He's complaining "I could have been a high school sports star!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  you know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.

  she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.

  he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.

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  3rd Gen I totally agree with you, I did apologize but how could we have known if all us were under the spell of the Watchtower?

  Data-dog, when I was 17 I headed over to the Navy recruiting center, one guy in a small office asking if I could join because I wanted to be a Seal. I got declined because my eyes had problems, this officer was all fired up when I said "I wanna kill them Commie bastards!", he almost had a orgasm. My friend left the Watchtower, joined the Navy and ended up for eight months at the South Pole after sitting in South Korea and Japan for eight years. He touched the pole, said it was boring as hell there!
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  19 and Counting Pedophile Church Coverup, their just like the Watchtower! "Real Time" Pedophile Scandal!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/21/people-duggar-family-speaks-after-josh-duggar-accused-molestation.

  have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!.

  "posted may 21 2015 6:51 pm edt.

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  JWdaughter, excellent post! JWs take a aggressive stance against anyone bringing charges forward as we have seen, their evil and retaliate against the victims, not the perps! There is a elder with a daughter who owns a day care center, he's very sympathetic to the local pedophiles. I wonder at times if he's a freak too, he has had accusations made against him in the past and now is it possible the BOE covered up his sins too?
  
  
  

  Did you read about what happened to the State Trooper officer the kid's father had him talk to, it's a strange story, heard he got arrested for charges of a similar sort, all the news is slowly filtering through as this family and it's church comes to grips with keeping their name clean for the camera and all the money their show made.
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  Fresno man facing murder charge after shooting a Jehovah’s Witness who refused blood transfusion

  by Tenacious in

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  a fresno man is facing murder charges in court this week for the shooting death of a jehovahs witness who later died after refusing a blood transfusion.. according to police, quevedo and silva argued over over gang membership with quevedo returning later in the evening to shoot silva through the security door at his home.. silva reportedly told a fresno police officer jehovah, jehovah, im dying, im dying, as he was taken to a hospital where he died during surgery after refusing a blood transfusion because he was a jehovahs witness.. it is the belief of many jehovahs witnesses that it is against gods will to have a blood transfusion.. according to defense attorney antonio alvarez, quevedo should not have been charged with murder because silva refused a transfusion that could have saved his life.. prosecutor gabriel brickey disagrees and will call fresno county pathologist michael chambliss to testify that, even if silva had received the transfusion, he would have died because one bullet hit a a major vein.. quevedo has already served time in prison for felony battery and theft and was on supervised release when he was arrested for shooting silva.. if convicted of murder he would face life in prison.. original story with suspect picture can be found here: fresno shooting.

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  Ok, so he was a Jehovah's Witness because he refused a blood transfusion yet lived a life that's against all the commandments, how does that work? "Fringe Witnesses", have not heard that term in a while, the witnesses who bugged people to attend the Memorial would gossip bad things about them, so why bother asking them to join them during the "Lord's Evening Meal" if you've got nothing good to say?
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  Christianity: The most deceptive religion

  by opusdei1972 in

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  jesus was a jew who apparently thought he was the messiah, however, after dying, his disciples began to propagate the lie that he would return from heaven during his generation.

  but, his generation passed away, and it was clear that it was a false prophecy, then a dishonest christian wrote the second letter of peter so as to condemn those who realised that the prophecy was a fiasco.

  interestingly, and sadly, this religion survived,....why????

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  "Village Idiot:

  The Christian religion is the most deceptive because it is hypocrite. It says "we have to love our enemies". On the other hand, Islam says: "we have to kill our enemies". It's more sincere"

  Still waiting for facts to back up this claim and is there any way we can use accepted historians to prove "Rome enabled Xians to expand" prior to the first 300 years of the church? We need to find evidence unless all your doing is providing us with your opinion, if that's your opinion, nothing anyone say's is going to sway your personal experiences with bad people.

  
  

  
  
  
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  19 and Counting Pedophile Church Coverup, their just like the Watchtower! "Real Time" Pedophile Scandal!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/21/people-duggar-family-speaks-after-josh-duggar-accused-molestation.

  have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!.

  "posted may 21 2015 6:51 pm edt.

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  Did any of you know guys who dated girls with wide age gaps before our world started to rethink it's position on consent? I was thinking about girls around my age (I was 13 years old at the time) who were dating 19 to 34 year old men, how come they never got in trouble for statuatory rape? Did our culture change from tolerating wild age spreads (I watched some Youtube Videos on 9 year old Brides in Islamic Culture begging for what many of us had, a childhood and the right to attend Middle and High School and perhaps college but they wont get this! The girls I listened to were speaking out against the violence, beating, killing of 9-11 year old child-brides getting married, why does the World tolerate this hate against women?) nothing like the Middle East I say yet I witnessed large age spreads without any judicial action taken against them. The video I watched showed several of those girls were either killed or committed suicide, what sick bastard gets off on baby girls or tweens? What's wrong with their sexuality, why can't kids be allowed to take time to grow up, we don't need babies having babies, is wrong!

  How come girls in the Middle East don't have any rights, why are they treated by men as nothing more than a possession of object to deposit their sperm when their not beating the hell out of them? I fear we will move towards a more tolerance of Pedophiles as time moves forward, Middle East culture won't converge with Western, its divergent and many stay to themselves in groups where women are treated with contempt for thinking or wanting a life!
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  19 and Counting Pedophile Church Coverup, their just like the Watchtower! "Real Time" Pedophile Scandal!"

  by PhilsWager2 in

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  http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/21/people-duggar-family-speaks-after-josh-duggar-accused-molestation.

  have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!.

  "posted may 21 2015 6:51 pm edt.

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  http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/21/people-duggar-family-speaks-after-josh-duggar-accused-molestation

  Have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!

  "Posted May 21 2015 — 6:51 PM EDT

  In an exclusive statement to People on Thursday, 19 Kids and Counting star Josh Duggar, his wife Anna, and his parents Jim Bob and Michelle are speaking out in response to reports that Josh was once accused of molesting five underage girls as a teen.

  “Twelve years ago, as a young teenager, I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends,” Josh, 27, says in the statement. “I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing, and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life.”

  Josh has resigned from his position at the Family Research Council as a result of the accusations becoming public, but his family has stood behind him.

  “Back 12 years ago our family went through one of the most difficult times of our lives,” Jim Bob, 49, and Michelle, 48, said in a joint statement. “When Josh was a young teenager, he made some very bad mistakes, and we were shocked. We had tried to teach him right from wrong. That dark and difficult time caused us to seek God like never before.”

  “I would do anything to go back to those teen years and take different actions,” Josh added. “I sought forgiveness from those I had wronged and asked Christ to forgive me and come into my life. In my life today, I am so very thankful for God’s grace, mercy and redemption.”

  A rep for TLC did not immediately respond to EW’s request for comment.

  To read the full statement, head over to People.