"You'll never even get to finish school in this System of Things....."
Yeah..............
Iv'e heard that one more then a few times.
Bullshit.
keith
this statement was often echeod to me during my formative years.
i remember my very first day of elementary school (stateside) at the age of 4. my parents were flustered because they couldn't believe they actually had to start their only child into public school to begin with; after all, the end was right around the corner!
this was 1984, the year the first apple mac was introduced, 80's music was loud and in your face, the delorean was cool, and miami vice was just in production.
"You'll never even get to finish school in this System of Things....."
Yeah..............
Iv'e heard that one more then a few times.
Bullshit.
keith
christ came with a sword to break up families if they don't follow the line.
he is all that matters.
you have to reject your families if they don't follow jesus(jehovah according to jws) so this proves they are right.
Umme yeah, their are Jehovah's Witnesses that do come onto this website trying to persuade peoples viewpoints. And as it was previously mentioned, it just goes to show us what doubts they have about their own religion, it's true.
You don't have to lose your family to believe in something, that's just foolish.
keith
christ came with a sword to break up families if they don't follow the line.
he is all that matters.
you have to reject your families if they don't follow jesus(jehovah according to jws) so this proves they are right.
Ok, so all you Jehovah's Witnesses out there on this "apostate website" . Do you not know by being on this website it is against what the Society teaches, and is therefore against your beleifs? You can't tell people your beleifs are right when your on this website knowing you shouldn't be. Your a bunch of hypocrites.
And another thing. Ok, so the bible teaches that Christ would divide familys. So the Society enforces these disfellowshipping rules that tear apart a family unit ? And rules that say that the family cannot keep in contact with a disfellowshipped person ? Witnesses are extremists, and even though they might have a few things correct, I think they have this rule wrong.
keith
http://www.watchtower.org/.
bottom of the page asks this question;.
have you ever wondered .
The Jehovah's Witnesses totally contradict themselves, what a bunch of foolishness.
keith
i didnt!
but again i was quite young.. i know this stuff has been posted in the past.....but for the heck of it, i wanted to see what others believe cults consist of.....so i googled this.
http://www.americanreligion.org/cultwtch/whatis.html.
I never knew that it was a cult until I was out of the organization after 20 years of being in it. It's only until you leave, you see how really screwed up it is, and how it's really a cult.
My parents say we the Jehovah's Witnesses don't follow human leadership, they follow God and Christ. Which doesn't make any sense to me because they follow the Governbody who are made up of men.
They receive their information from the society, and believe they are god's only channel of communication.
I guess in the Bible Moses was a prophet, and God spoke through him to people. But I can't see a group of highly controlled extremists being in charge.
Many of their rules and regulations are very unreasonable. Not to mention their doctrine changes in the past, and present.
By the Witnesses changing numerous doctrines, is what they were taught in the past wrong since it changed? Is it no longer to be believed ? How would you know what their teaching right now isn't later down the road going to be changed again ? Then not to be believed ?
Seems to me that they really enticed alot of people into their religion with false prophecy. I know one doctrine change that really bothered me personally, it was about the generation of 1914 seeing the end of this system. They stopped teaching that.
Jehovah's Witnesses are blindly following the society. And the Society is not to be questioned by any of it's members. If your a Witness and you do question the society, you will be automatically labelled as an "apostate", and have committed the unforgivable sin. They will kick you out on your ass.
Witnesses don't know what a cult is, perhaps, because the society hasn't made a watchtower or awake article on it. I wonder why ? Hmm.
Now that im out of the organization, I realize what I was into. And as I said before, when your in it, you don't realize anything, the only thing your realizing is what the society teaches you since your under a form of mind control (which is yet another sign of a cult, mind control).
keith
i used to go to strip clubs with another fellow elder when we would go out of town on "business".
i believe those lapdances could've gotten us removed.
don'tcha think?
Umme yeah my dad was an elder for like 20 years, he got put in jail when I was 9 years old for hitting my mother across the face. Oh and also he use to beat on us as kids, while still an elder. Oh and he use to say the word Fuck every time he got mad, which was pretty much every single day. And oh, he use to threaten me not to call the police because they would take him away to prison, or not to call the elders or they would disfelowship him. Yeah i lived in Fear.
Read my story people in my posts "My life in the organization", its quite interesting to say the least.
the walls of the wts are finally being cracked but nobody is breaking down the walls.we have the internet exposing all their lies,elders resigning,no new members beside families being baptized, contributions dwindling,teens leaving in droves,and layoffs at the wts headquarters .still,the walls remain intact.the 800 lbs.
gorilla is missing to break down the wall.. we know in 1975 many members left but the wts wall was easily repaired.who will finally break the walls down and how will it happen?
what will it take for a mass exodus?.
Good topic of discussion, really good question. Not sure of the answer, but i think it's gonna take some type of group effort.
i have seen a counsellor on and off since leaving watchtower land.
she has made efforts to find out more about jehovah's witnesses.. we were discussing why my jw family (not my husbands' they shun us as if we smell bad!!!!
) are beginning to spend more time with us.
Yeah I think the watchtower is losing it's grip on it's members. Since I have just recently left, I found out that many other young people that I know personally have left too. Even the kids nobody thought would leave, are leaving. And it seems like the people in the organization are losing their zeal more and more. So, the wtbts is clearly losing their grip on it's members.
at this stage of "coming out" of the "truth", would it faze you if you were disfellowshipped?
The only reason im not d'fed is because my family is in it and i wanna keep in contact with them. Otherwise, i'd be d'fed long ago.
i used to be here a real lot.
now i make about 15 posts , if that,.
per day and read a few other threads that interest me.
I'll go on here before I go to bed and maybe once when I wake up, just to read some active topics. I'll type a couple posts each day too.