Why is it that the Dubs have two types of Salvation? 1 The Faithful and Discreat salves 2 the other sheep. One goes to Heaven and as Holy Spirit, and the other stays on Earth and no Spirit. The Bible only has one Salvation in Jesus Christ alone.
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Salvation
by Ephesians6 inwhy is it that the dubs have two types of salvation?
1 the faithful and discreat salves 2 the other sheep.
one goes to heaven and as holy spirit, and the other stays on earth and no spirit.
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Why do you believe???
by truthseeker1 ini have a question for everybody.
it has probably been asked before, but i'll ask it again in case anyone changed their minds.... why do/don't you believe in god/god.
what give you faith in things not beheld/makes you not believe?.
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Why do I believe in God? Well look around! Did all you see happen by chance? The stars you see at night, the moon, the Sun, these are there by what reason? Chance I think not, if evelution is still on why are there not people ending up in the monkey cages? Who made you? you did not end up with wings so you do not need plane tickets. Look around, Look at your life. He is real, you will see Him one day. How will you be prepaired.
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Answer this anti-Trinity folk
by Ephesians6 infor you folks who do not believe that jesus is god almighty answer these questions, the bible does.. who raised jesus from the dead?-father romans6:4 acts3:26, 1 thess 1:10. the son john 10:17,18, john 2:19-21 the holy spirit romans 8:11 god acts 13:30 heb 13:20. who does the bible say god is?
the father john14:2 the son john 1:1-3 the holy spirit gen 1:2 god gen 1:1. who saves man?
but i think you get the point.
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So I have had only one person answer this post. my my just as I thought.
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Answer this anti-Trinity folk
by Ephesians6 infor you folks who do not believe that jesus is god almighty answer these questions, the bible does.. who raised jesus from the dead?-father romans6:4 acts3:26, 1 thess 1:10. the son john 10:17,18, john 2:19-21 the holy spirit romans 8:11 god acts 13:30 heb 13:20. who does the bible say god is?
the father john14:2 the son john 1:1-3 the holy spirit gen 1:2 god gen 1:1. who saves man?
but i think you get the point.
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For you folks who do not believe that Jesus is God Almighty answer these questions, the Bible does.
Who raised Jesus from the dead?-Father Romans6:4 Acts3:26, 1 thess 1:10
The Son John 10:17,18, John 2:19-21 The Holy Spirit Romans 8:11 God Acts 13:30 Heb 13:20
Who does the Bible say God is? The Father Eph 4:6 The Son John 1:1 Titus 2:13 John20:28 The Holy Spirit Acts 5:3,4 God Deut 4:35
Who created the World? The Father John14:2 The Son John 1:1-3 The Holy Spirit Gen 1:2 God Gen 1:1
Who saves Man? The Father 1Peter 1:3 The Son John 8:11 John 5:21 The Holy Spirit Titus 3:5 God 1John 3:9
There is more if you want. But I think you get the point. You can not seperate God. He is who He claims to BE. Think about this why can't God be 3 in 1? What power stops Him from this? He is all powerful. He created all laws.
Get past the human in you and be in touch with the Holy Spirit, do away with human laws and ideals and see the Word of God for what it is. The Words of God, You ignore Jesus you deny God. It is that simple. -
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Pagan origins of Christanity?
by crownboy ini'm in the middle of reading jesus and the lost goddess: the secret teachings of the original christians and after this i would like to read the jesus mysteries.. i happened to come upon this book by accident, but i was surprised to see just how much christanity has possibly borrowed from pagan religions (i knew that ot stories like the flood were borrowed, but figured the nt was made by some cultic jews).
i also didn't realize that certain letters of paul may be forgeries, or that certain passages in the "genuine" letters could be allusions to pagan things.
are there any other or books or websites on the topic that anyone could recommend?
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Pagan origins?? Man history realy does repeat it's self. Just another excuse for not following Jesus Christ. will not work on God. What pagan origin do these come from, Grace-Gods response to mans need. Regeneration-God creating man into a new creation. Imputation God takes our guilt and puts it on Christ. Substitution- Jesus takes our place. Redemption-set free from our sin. Propitiation-Jesus paid the price, man must die for his sin, Jesus did it for us. Justification- We are made right before God by God. Sanctification-We are set apart by God. Salvation-Deliverance from sin.
What Pagan Belief does this come from? What other belief does the god do all for you and you do nothing to save your little meger lives? Pagan ha ha ha I am Cornholeo, you must worship my bung hole. -
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Voice your opinion- Organised religion.
by jerome inmy main problem with organised religion is when totalitarianism comes into play.
thats when you get institutions like the catholic church in its earlier years.
that should never be allowed.. jerome
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Religion, Man made ideas and laws to control a group of people. ie Watch tower. Jesus Christ and being Born again, LIFE, relationship, His rules are free and light. His ideas are perfect, not binding.
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Mindfield - What is god - Jan 13
by Cath ini was just going back through some of the older recent material to see what i may have missed and i came across this question - what is god?.
better late than never i suppose.. i no longer believe in god as a seperate entity but believe in a life force that is within each of us and everything else on this planet and also the planet itself.. that got me to thinking about the origin of life also as he is said to have created us but as i dont believe in him where did we come from.. in my search i came across this site - http://www.spiritweb.org - which has a section on channellings.
the channellers name is john payne and if you scroll thru his stuff to his seminar called manifesting with joy (you'll need real player) and have a listen to the thing, then to the question time at the end it is quite interesting and thought provoking.
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Yes six-minus-nine I am ready. I know the truth about Him, I;ve taken the time to look at the evidence that He has made. Get ready Get ready for the coming day.
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Mindfield - What is god - Jan 13
by Cath ini was just going back through some of the older recent material to see what i may have missed and i came across this question - what is god?.
better late than never i suppose.. i no longer believe in god as a seperate entity but believe in a life force that is within each of us and everything else on this planet and also the planet itself.. that got me to thinking about the origin of life also as he is said to have created us but as i dont believe in him where did we come from.. in my search i came across this site - http://www.spiritweb.org - which has a section on channellings.
the channellers name is john payne and if you scroll thru his stuff to his seminar called manifesting with joy (you'll need real player) and have a listen to the thing, then to the question time at the end it is quite interesting and thought provoking.
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What is God?? God is Spirit, God is all Knowing, all powerful, everywhere present. All people will meet with Him one day. Get ready Get ready for the comming Day.
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Baptism
by Ephesians6 inbaptism and the holly spirit;.
why is it that only 144,000 of j.ws have the holly spirit at baptism, and the rest do not?
there are two classes in the organization, some lesser and some greater.
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Baptism and the Holly Spirit;
Why is it that only 144,000 of J.W’s have the Holly spirit at Baptism, and the rest do not? There are two classes in the organization, some lesser and some greater. This is not what Jesus taught.
*** it-1 253-4 Baptism ***
Likewise those who undergo Christian baptism become God’s property, his slaves, to employ as he sees fit. (1Co 6:20) An example of God’s direction of such matters is found in Revelation, where reference is made to a definite number of persons finally “sealed,” namely, 144,000. (Re 7:4-8) Even before such final approval, God’s Holy Spirit serves as a seal that gives those sealed a token in advance of their inheritance, a heavenly one. (Eph 1:13, 14; 2Co 5:1-5) He also told these having such a hope: “God has set the members in the body [of Christ], each one of them, just as he pleased.”—1Co 12:18, 27.
Jesus called attention to another group when he said: “I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.” (Joh 10:16) These are not of the “little flock” (Lu 12:32), but they too must approach Jehovah through Jesus Christ and be baptized in water.
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30 Those prophetic words make it certain that this dedicated, baptized “great crowd” are in favor of God’s “new heavens,” made up of the Lamb Jesus Christ and his 144,000 faithful disciples who have been given the “new birth” to that heavenly inheritance. (Rev. 7:1-8; also ÞRe Ü21:1-14) They get their death-dealing sins washed away through washing their robes in the “blood of the Lamb.” This puts them on the way to everlasting life in an Edenic garden with which the “new heavens” will beautify the whole earthly globe.
There is nothing selective in Baptism. We all receive the Holly Spirit at this time. There is nothing that claims two different Baptisms. The Bible does not teach haves and have nots. -
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Is this site JW or what?
by Ephesians6 ini have been on this site for a bite.
reading posts and where are all the jw's?
we have people who have gotten out of the watchtower, good for all of you.
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It is not that I need, Just none seemed to be here. Only people of other beliefs. dungbeetle said it, I'll just have to hit a topic that brings out the best in yous all.