Posts by boyzone

one of the most disturbing aspects of the organisation for me is that the watchtower leaders prefer legalistic, harsh, pharasaical interpretations on a range of doctrines/policies that have the potential to severely harm peoples lives, when there are more loving and reasonable positions/interpretations that could easily be adopted by the governing body without feeling they were betraying the scriptures.. for example:.

1. blood transfusions a clear no-no scripturally, a gross sin worthy of disfellowshipment (harsh, pharasaical legalistic approach) - or - it's debateable and we can't be sure.

dogmatism not appropriate in matters of life or death.

boyzone

Hi Yadda

Yes I agree they could easily change these doctrines for a gentler approach - but they won't, not without a serious change of heart and leadership.

For example, the GB daren't change the doctrine about blood despite knowing the whole thing doesn't make sense because the outcry from those brothers and sisters who have lost loved ones, including children adhering to this policy would be so scandalous it would totally end their control. And its ALL about maintaining control.

Same goes for the disfellowshiping rule. It should be about showing love to erring ones as JESUS would have shown love, (Jesus NEVER shunned). The problem is the Society have lumped all disfellowshipped and disassociated together under the same banner regardless of whether they were thrown out for fornication or for apostasy. And its those they call apostates that they're most afraid of. Its that intense fear of "apostates" that keeps the disfellowshiping rule in place.

They know that they're being too harsh in their understanding of the proof scriptures they use (Ray Franz proves that in ISOCF) but its an absolute must to maintain information control. By demonizing those that disagree with them, the Society have made the rank and file very fearful. Its all part and parcel of making sure the average Witness never hears what total frauds the GB are. Because once the cat is out of the bag, there's no going back and the old men in Brooklyn are out of a job.

The 2 witness rule was a media smoke-screen for the paedophile problem. A smoke-screen that totally backfired on them. By invoking the 2 witness rule and trying to keep the pedo problem in-house and out of the public eye, they were able to cling onto a finely honed public image of themselves as "God's Organization". By making it hush-hush, they could also continue to slag off the Catholic church for having this very public problem. It enabled them to elevate themselves in their own eyes and in the eyes of the average Witness.

Don't be fooled by the platitudes about the children since being found out. They don't give a damn about the victims of abuse, it was all about protecting their precious reputation. The sorrow expressed for the victims is purely a media damage-limitation exercise. If they really cared about the abused children in their midst, they would have gone to the authorities immediately.

So all in all the Society daren't take a softer line on any of these issues. Its nothing to do with what the bible says on these subjects, it never has been. Its all about what is politically expedient to maintaining their control of nearly 7 million people keeping themselves on a very high pedestal.

Power and control. Thats what its all about.

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BREAKING NEWS!!! A JW Knocked Down By A Car While Avoiding A DF'd...

by african GB Member in

a "brother'' from my cong was injured after he crossed the street without looking,...he was avoiding a recently df'd "brother".... the df'd bro is one of my best friends.

the elders just announced that bro so & so was in an accident but no details.

the df'd bro told me he tried to help as he was the only person who knew the injured bro,...to his shock he was shunned by the bro(injured)....he could'nt even tell him whether he was ok or not..... african gb member.

boyzone

Not true?? Oh

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BREAKING NEWS!!! A JW Knocked Down By A Car While Avoiding A DF'd...

by african GB Member in

a "brother'' from my cong was injured after he crossed the street without looking,...he was avoiding a recently df'd "brother".... the df'd bro is one of my best friends.

the elders just announced that bro so & so was in an accident but no details.

the df'd bro told me he tried to help as he was the only person who knew the injured bro,...to his shock he was shunned by the bro(injured)....he could'nt even tell him whether he was ok or not..... african gb member.

boyzone

I hope he was ok. Such a terrible shame that the shunning rules were applied to a terrible degree by this brother. Reminds me of the good samaritan story. How awful that the Df'd person did the good deed and STILL was shunned by the brother!!

What HAVE the Society done to these people

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rest home for old brothers and sisters

by Motema Bolingo in

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friends

we have just seen a lettre sent by the bethel in holland (emmen) to the dutch elders.. the document is dated 14 april 20008. the society doesn't allow that a member of a congregation takes the initiative to open a rest home.

for old brothers and sisters.. we wonder if the instructions were local or spread worldwide.. thank you for your help.

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boyzone

I agree Edmond, it would be interesting to see the reasoning behind that letter. The Jah-jireh homes were once held up to me as an example of the true benevolence of the Society but once they read that statement on the website, they had to backtrack and admit it was just a private business run by a brother.

Just because a Society rep was at the opening of the first UK home doesn't mean the Society put any of their vast funds towards "looking after orphans and widows" no matter how many years these ones spent in WT service.

It seems to me that the Society want to bathe in the reflective glory these homes give without putting thier hands in their pockets or accepting any repsonsibility for the elderly ones

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KINGOM HALLS IN SCOISH HIGHLANDS

by badboy in

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friends

any details?.

boyzone

close

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KINGOM HALLS IN SCOISH HIGHLANDS

by badboy in

jw
friends

any details?.

boyzone

No, the name rhymes with Tims. Big house, lovely wife called *Xendy.

We loved Fort William too and spent a week in October enjoying the fabulous scenery up there, doing the usual sights like Anoch Mor and Loch Ness etc. The kids loved every minute despite the weather being poor.

I'd visit again in a heartbeat but might have to find somewhere else to stay

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Have You Ever Walked Out Of a KH "Meeting"?

by african GB Member in

did you have enough of boasting, and decided to walk out?.

that's what happened to me during this week's bs about how to "treat the disfellowshipped"?.

i just picked up my bag and stormed out...... will i get called into the back room?.

boyzone

I'm with Daniel-p. I too walked out during the 2005 higher education WT. I wasn't in higher ed at the time but the whole tone of the WT was just so patronizing and sick I couldn't stand it any longer.

I just knew this WT would cause thousands of families to have furious rows with their kids up and down the country and I was sick of the switching back and forth the Society kept doing.

I went home and shredded that Watchtower.

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rest home for old brothers and sisters

by Motema Bolingo in

jw
friends

we have just seen a lettre sent by the bethel in holland (emmen) to the dutch elders.. the document is dated 14 april 20008. the society doesn't allow that a member of a congregation takes the initiative to open a rest home.

for old brothers and sisters.. we wonder if the instructions were local or spread worldwide.. thank you for your help.

.

boyzone

Financed, but not run, at least not by the rank and file.

Top down not bottom up