Posts by boyzone

i am especially inerested in their response as to whether the governing body is god's channel of truth, leading the members of the congregations, the sum of whom cumulatively make up jehovah's organization.

if so, why, and on what basis..

boyzone

Angel Eyes.

I look forward to reading your answers to Isaac's questions. I'd be really interested to hear your take on things.

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Oct. 15th WT - WT Society Manipulation " Find True Friends Only in JW land"

by flipper in

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well- you knew this was coming next after the article of how to be jesus friend.

so the wt society was setting it's members up to seek friends only in the ranks of jehovah's witnesses.

basically in this article " maintaining friendships in a loveless world " - even from the title you get the impression the wt is showing that the world is loveless- but the jehovah's witnesses are not.

boyzone

. Shallow friendships are so much the norm in JWland that this article reads like a sick joke. True friendships are based on love and trust. Without these two qualities there is no deep friendship. So do JW's have this love and trust?

First lets take love. Agape love between JW friends is strictly conditional on both continuing as JW's, its got nothing to do with any personal faith or love of God. If a friend leaves the JW's but still maintains his love for God and lives a moral life, the JW friend is told to withdraw their friendship, if not cut off all contact altogether. So, no love there then.

What about trust? One important aspect of a deep friendship is the ability to confide in that friend when the need arises. A problem shared is a problem halved. So if that "friend" feels obligated to run to the elders with your confidences, how is that building trust? It doesn't, it actually builds the opposite - distrust. For who would really want to confide in a friend knowing that they'll tell the elders your intimate problems?

So what you end up with in the congregations is a whole bunch of people that say they love each other and say they are true friends, but in practice the whole thing is a sham.

I know full well what this does to people. Think about how this could play out.

You're told you have true friends in the congregation, nowhere else. So you rely on these true friends as you've cut off all your other worldly associates as advised and you have no others but them. But you know deep down you can't really rely on them, they'll rat you out if they had a chance, so you keep your more serious concerns to yourself. You don't talk through whats bothering you and you internalize your anxiety. You try to put on a front and that works for a while, but you can't maintain it. The anxiety builds and the problem seems huge. You get ill. You go to the doctor for anti-depressants or battle with an eating disorder or drink.

Depression gets the better of you and you start to slow down in your service and meeting attendance. You are perceived as "weak" by others and they're told it might be wise to keep their distance from you. Your "friend" tries to "speak consolingly to the depressed soul" but not really understanding the problem, can't help. Of course you daren't explain the problem because you know she has to go to the elders, and the last thing you need is a bunch of unqualified, unrelated men knowing your business and telling you how to feel.

Is it any wonder that so many JW's are on anti-depressants or seriously overweight? I knew quite a few in our congregation 2 years ago. I bet they still are on them, if not even more. One young sister drank herself to death aged 33. Her loneliness was the main cause.

This article is a wicked piece of propaganda that stifles JW's into a mentally unhealthy mind control.

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Birthdays

by feenx in

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for those of us who were not able to celebrate birthday's growing up, do you find that in adult life you put a lot of emphasis on your birthday?

it's personally my favorite celebration, second would be thanksgiving but really only because i'm a sucker for lots of turkey and booze lol.

seriously though, since coming out birthday's have surprisingly become a very sacred thing to me.

boyzone

WTWizard

Yeah I agree, I love christmas. As soon as I DA'd it was the first celebration that I went full tilt into. Love the twinkly lights and the warm smell of mulled wine. Yum!

I felt like I had alot of years to make up for. Funny enough, my dub parents love it too, i can tell by their eyes. It makes them remember christmas when I was young (they became JW's when I was 15) and I can tell they miss it so much.

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Child Murderer and Rapist Baby P's Stepfather now a JW

by JWFreak in

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the monstrous stepdad of baby p has become a jehovah's witness in jail.sadistic brute steven barker, 33, keeps a bible in his cell and has told prison staff that he has "found god at last".. last night officers tasked with guarding the beast from attacks by fellow cons remained dubious about the motive for his sudden conversion.. but a senior source at wakefield prison in west yorkshire insisted: "barker is deadly serious about his new faith.".

evil barker was caged with twisted lover tracey connelly, 28, after she helped him torture to death her defenceless 17-month-old toddler peter.

barker is also serving life for raping a girl of two.

boyzone

This article describes the torture that beautiful little boy went through.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1086284/Teenager-reveals-horror-Baby-Ps-shocking-ordeal-hands-tormentors.html

If the bastard who did this is really a JW now, all the more reason for the cons to get hold of him and rip him to shreds.

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Looking for name of a show from when I was a kid: Marionettes flying around in a wooden rocket ship

by Elsewhere in

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the other day some friends and i were talking about shows we liked when we were kids.

one show i absolutely loved when i was a kid, but cannot remember the name, was about some kids who would fly around in a tall wooden rocket ship.

the characters were all marionettes on strings and the ship looked like it was cobbled together will bits and pieces of scrap wood with a cone on the top.. i think it aired in the 1970's or 1980's.