which 5 books would you recommend?.
there is a wealth of information, just waiting to be shared with persons who have an open mind and a desire to know the truth about the watchtower society.
please list five books (more or less) that you would recommend to new ones.. i hope to discover something new from your lists.
Best for me was'
1. Crisis of Conscience (of course)
2. In Search of Christian Freedom (finished the job)
3. Gentile times Reconsidered (totally blew away the 607-1914 possibility, then I was really free)
4. More Jesus, Less Religion by Steve Arterburn (taught me how damaging legalistic religion can be and how real christianity should be)
5. Combatting Cult Mind Control. (Saw for the first time how I was controlled and why I fell for it for so long)
ok so the mate took good notes at the ca and here is the newest on "higher education:.
the usual bashing of motives: those who want great wealth, prestige and seek it in a college educationcollege graduates don't always get jobs in their fieldsdrugs, drinking and sex are "rampant" at collegesthose who want to "snatch us away" are near if we go to college (isa 54)if we seek a college education, we are not spiritual mindedthe most disturbing for me was this:.
those who choose college will not get blessings from jehovahand of course there was the obligatory interview with the college graduate who disdains the education whe received.. .
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Remember, the CO outline last year presented the scenario that any appointed men who approve of their kids going to college and recommend it as an option* to anyone else would be removed from their position.
Were you still an elder when this talk was given? Have you a copy of the outline that can pe posted here?
right now at bethel, they are laying off and reassigning again.
if you have cancer or some other illness, you are a liability and it's time to pack.
i remember the night when we had the special talk about there being a great need in the field and some would be sent out.
Gary, Dacheech, your attitude stinks.
with the recent illness of a gb member who has hurt many people, some have commented that they would like to have him suffer, various ways have been mentioned including having his mind fine, but his body suffering.. we all here have a hatred for child molesters, abusers, those who make others suffer.. and there are many examples in history as well.
hitler, josef mengele, john wayne gacy, and many others.. is it right to want them to suffer for what they have done?
should they be made to undergo the exact same suffering they inflicted on others?.
Yes I was also move by Lady Lee's reply.It showed me that, no matter how hurt and angry we are by the actions of others, when it comes to the final moments in many cases our compassion takes over and we see the truth of the matter. Lady Lee didn't see the monster anymore, just a frightened old man in need of comfort and reassurance. And because she is the better person, she gave that comfort.
I do wonder if many of us here that have been hurt by Jaracz's policies or by the man directly, would we really whisper in his ear that the Org is a fake in his last moments? (as some have suggested) Probably not. We may think we would, we may even wish we could, but given the opportunity, we probably wouldn't.
Thats because I believe we all are better than him, and in the last moments, we'd prove it.
end of morning program, dvd video released: "the wonders of creation reveal god's glory".
end of afternoon program, announced upcoming release of a new songbook: "sing to jehovah".
excuse me while i go barf now.. b the x.
Whats that horrible word used in one of the songs? Efficacious? Effivacious? Something like that.
Lets hope no more daft rhymes. Not that it'll make our congregation sing any better, we were rubbish.
end of morning program, dvd video released: "the wonders of creation reveal god's glory".
end of afternoon program, announced upcoming release of a new songbook: "sing to jehovah".
excuse me while i go barf now.. b the x.
a couple of things that come to mind: celebrate holidays and go tieless..
I can say "happy belated birthday Hope!" Without feeling guilty.
i just got off the phone with my mom and during our conversation (which was good, actually, mostly personal, family stuff), i got a big hint of the cognitive dissonance that witnesses often operate under.
you have to understand, my parents live in an area that is about 75% lds, or mormon.. she was mentioning a young lady my aunt is studying with, and she said the following.
"she has a boyfriend, and your aunt met him.
I like your mum mindmelda, she sounds like she's not prepared to goosestep along with the rest of the Nazis.
Dunno.
I never knew anyone who was marked officially but there were several JW's that were regarded as a bit dodgy and better kept at arms length. Mostly these were the slightly eccentric ones or the ones on the fringes.
I would say then that its personal opinion spread by the gossip mongerers in the cong. Unless an elder here can correct me.
"the wt conclusion is intellectually dishonest & deliberately deceitful in that the wt is only telling you 4/5 of the truth.".
my mistake.
the sentence should say "1/5 of the truth".. .
Does the following WT quote (Insight p.1019 / Aid p.1543) pass the "Test of Agreement" with Scripture? "...in a large number of cases the expression 'holy spirit' appears in the original Greek without the article,
thus indicating its LACK of PERSONALITY."
I would say the Watchtower does not pass this test. From the evidence you posted, the definate article appears on numerous occasions thus identifying the Holy Spirit (and other Spirits) as personal.
But I'm no greek scholar.
