Posts by Eppie

Everyone makes mistakes so everyone should be forgiven once in awhile, including yourself. Forgiving is often also a somewhat selfish thing as well: when you forgive that person you won't lose him, often the easy way to take.

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Is everyone on this Web Board a Jehovah's Witness Basher?

by sandy in

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i grew up in the religion and was baptized at.............supposedly the most important day in our lives and i cannot remember how old i actually was, anyways...... i believe it was 13 or 14. i was never disfellowshipped.

i have a "worldly" boyfriend whom i love dearly, and i no longer attend the "meetings".

i do not disagree with the organization entirely; in fact i am not even sure if i disagree with it at all.

Eppie

Dear Tiffany,

Thanks for telling your story! I love this site seriously, it has provided me with lots of information already. Currently I am reading a book about Jehovahs witnesses, and will most definitely read the book everyone is recommending here! I already ordered it and awaiting it in anticipation now!

I think we can all learn alot from each other here, and Sandy, I hope you will remain on this board as it consists of people that really care and may be a bit frustrated and upset but they have every right to be! I know that you are still in the organisation more or less and there has been a time that I was there also but I feel so free now that I can't even imagine going back, remember that God necessarily equals JW. You can also be a good person with god in your heart (i do not believe anymore but you most definitely can) outside of the organisation. I have so many 'worldly' friends and truly they are often more loyal and dedicated and loving than any JW I have met. Please respect the people on this board, they have interesting stories to tell. And we will most definitely respect you and will try to help you when possible.

I am sorry that I haven't emailed you yet but I have a very huge exam of 4000 pages of medical biology next week and am spending all time i have in the library. As soon as I have more time I would love to email with you as I do think we are in the same place or at least you are in a place I have been for a long time.

I hope you will work things out and that you will find the true path that will lead to happiness in your life,

Love,
Eppie

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Theme Songs for Leaving the WTS

by blondie in

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here is an edited version of a favorite of mine:.

with apologies to the eagles .

already gone well, i heard some people talkin' just the other day and they said you were gonna put me on a shelf but let me tell you i got some news for you and you'll soon find out it's true and then you'll have to eat your crap all by yourself 'cause i'm already gone and i'm feelin' strong i will sing this vict'ry song, woo, hoo,hoo,woo,hoo,hoo

Eppie

Blue days by Racoon

Broken down and shut-eyed, dangerous down the road. People's tricky business turns to overload. Don't remember clearly blank behind the eye. I caught up with the memory. I never said goodbye. I remember faces behind that wall of yours. I remember fistfights until one of us dropped. Don't recall all the details. Some are better off. I wish that it was possible to review the best of. Day by day it hits in. Thanks for all you did in the blue days. Bit by bit it hits in. Thanks for all you did in the blue days. I got to try al little more, because I'm an asshole but I'm learning. I got to try al little more, because I'm an asshole but I'm learning, yeah I’m learning This is a picture of us all standing in the hallway. Looking quite ridiculous, a little overdressed. You never understood I had to take the call. Because without dreams there's nothing left at all. Day by day it hits in. Thanks for all you did in the blue days. Bit by bit it hits in. Thanks for all you did in the blue days. You got to try al little more, because you're an asshole but you're learning. You got to try al little more, you're still an asshole but you're learning. , yes you’re learning Broken down and shut-eyed, dangerous down the road. You say I took a sideway. You say I broke the oath. I don't remember clearly. It's blank behind the eye. I caught up with the memory. I never said goodbye.

Especially as I indeed never said goodbye, well not yet anyway, I guess I'll have to some day, especially say goodbye to all the guilt.

Eppie

PS: Also It's my party from Cindy Lauper

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Do u feel u missed out being a JW Teen?

by Shytears in

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do you feel that you missed out on the social part?emotional part?how do u feel your parents handled it?were they strict,let u do anything?

i just have alot going thru my mind,just wanted to hear some of your comments

laura

Eppie

Hi Laura,

YES YES AND YES AGAIN! The funny thing is that you know that you are missing out when you are in. Ever remember being humiliated because you had to sit on the podium during a congregation with your family and pretending to have a family bookstudy? That you then ask e.g. your father: 'Dad, why can I not go to that party' and then in the end you agree with him of course 'Dad thank you for helping me with this, I am happy to listen to Jehovah and love him more than a party BLABLABLABLA'. And then you had to face all your teen JW friends that looked at you like pffff you are such a goody goody. Cause in reality most of young JWs do stuff as going out etc (as long as they are not catched by their parents).

I remember one particular evening when I was dancing and hanging out with my friends in a club and then my second dad (an elder) came in to slap me around the face and drag me home, and then grounded me for the rest of my life (which was of course only three weeks, and only in the weekends as I lived with my other parents during the week).

It's also very funny actually that you are taught as a JW teen to lie! I mean did you ever tell other students that you don't miss parties and getting presents, that you don't mind sitting at home with your parents on Christmas day while you desperately just wanted to have a normal life?

Anyway, I indeed went to college two years ago, and hell i am making up for everything I lost now! Maybe a bit too much, but hell i don't care!

Remember the saying (or at least it is one in my country and i translate it here): when you suppress something it will only get back harder.

Actually JWs should have some period as the Amish have: a period during your teens in which you can do everything that god forbids and then return. Am wondering whether that would decrease the drain in young JWs that is occuring at this moment.

Eppie

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Profit of watchtower & awake, can anyone tell me???

by jamey X in

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i was raised as a jw until the age of 16, when i supposidly "drifted" to the worldly world (which i love) i am 29 now and have my own family and am very happy.

in the last month i have stopped feeling guilty & frightened about not being involved.

i have always tried to compensate to my parents in other ways, but am getting tired never being able to make them really happy.

Eppie

Hai,

Well I don't know how long you've all been out but at the moment you don't have to pay for the magazines anymore. You'll only 'have to' give a voluntary amount of money. They are given to people at the door for free. So I really don't think they make that much money on the magazines. They probably do make a lot of money on all the free labour of the people at Bethel.

I can however remember our congregation that sold their old kingdom hall, gave that money to the organisation and then had to BORROW money from the organisation again to build a new one! Of course this was also largely paid by brothers and sisters.

So yeah overall they probably do make a lot of money, but I do not think that is the main goal of the organisation.

Eppie

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Question about JW and Brooklyn

by Eppie in

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hai all,.

i have a question: when i read on this site i notice that many people are upset by the organisation of jw and not necessarily their beliefs (also, but less upset maybe?).

i have a question though: we talk about jws being indoctrinated and brainwashed etc., but where does it originate?

Eppie

Hai all,

I have a question: When I read on this site i notice that many people are upset by the organisation of JW and not necessarily their beliefs (also, but less upset maybe?).

I have a question though: We talk about JWs being indoctrinated and brainwashed etc., but where does it originate? Do you think that the 'brothers' in Brooklyn are just making things up when they are writing their Watchtower and Awakes? Are they religious as well and just think they are doing the right thing or are they just scheming everything? I also heard something about money, do they do it for that? Also: br Russel (or was it Rutherford, hmmm i was baptised and I forgot this, blimey ) who started the whole thing up, was he just really looking for answers and did it all get out of hand or was he planning smth like this all along?

Why are you upset with the organisation, who is the 'brain' behind this religion? Is there really someone sitting somewhere laughing his guts out because he can do this to 5 million people, knowing that there is no contact with God at all?

Thanks in advance for your answers!

Eppie

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Is everyone on this Web Board a Jehovah's Witness Basher?

by sandy in

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friends

i grew up in the religion and was baptized at.............supposedly the most important day in our lives and i cannot remember how old i actually was, anyways...... i believe it was 13 or 14. i was never disfellowshipped.

i have a "worldly" boyfriend whom i love dearly, and i no longer attend the "meetings".

i do not disagree with the organization entirely; in fact i am not even sure if i disagree with it at all.

Eppie

Hi Sandy,

I will most definitely reply to you! You have to wait a few more hours though, I have a dinner now and then a party. And sorry to say this but I am a bit scared to email you from my email address, so I will just make another one (say [email protected] if it is still available, and then I will email you!

Love,

Eppie

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Desire to talk to an elder

by Eppie in

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hey everyone,.

i have a question: i am happily faded but i recently got the desire to talk to an elder of my old congregation.

the problem is that he doesn't know i am faded (i kinda disappeared from jw archives while moving to college), and that i do not want to get into trouble by this.

Eppie

Dear all,

(((((((You are all so nice people!)))))))

Thanks so much for the replies! I am most definitely not going to do anything on an impulse, especially not after all your nice words.

Guest77: mixed emotions has become my motto almost nowadays ;)
LovesDubs: so nice to say those things, thanks!
Liberty: Nope, didn't do all the things you mentioned, solely the other things you mentioned ;)
Yeah, Eppie is the nickname my 'second dad' gave me, but unfortunately he doesn't want to talk to me anymore as i am faded. Am still using it though :)

I think you are all very right. It is not at this moment that I am looking for another religion (hell I am just happy I could leave this one). But the story is a bit complicated: as long as I was a JW I hated people that had double-lives, so as soon as I found out that I was kind of doing the same I decided to step out of the religion (to DA myself), and told my dad about that. After I also had a meeting with my grandpa (who was an elder, but recently died) they convinced me not to leave. They said: 'don't bring so many trouble on yourself, just do all the things you feel you want to do, be silent and fade away. In that way you will always leave the door open to come back'. As I was very happy that they were not saying that they would never want to see me anymore I decided to obey their wishes. But it bothers me that I am still officially a JW, and what even bothers me in a strange way is that JWs never came to visit me, it is as if they are more worried about getting new people than that they take care of 'their own'. I would love to be officially out, i sometimes walk around with my boyfriend and then we're smoking and I just hope to run in to a JW so it will all be over. The problem is that I feel bad, for example every time i have sex, not because I think i am doing a sin, but because it is some kind of fear for God build up in me. Seriously, i do not sleep around (anymore) and am really in love with him so I don't think there is smth bad in that, but as i am still an official JW it feels just bad, as if i am hiding and cannot be myself.

I hope this makes any sense at all for someone

(((((((SANDY))))))) I already replied to another post of you this day that I think our stories are quite similar! Please give me your email address so I can email you! You can send it to [email protected] (if i am correct). I would love to meet you maybe (also depends upon the country where you live of course ;).

And so far I will promis not to go to the elder, and I promise that as soon as i feel the urge i will just join into the chat and talk to you nice people,

Thanks again all

Eppie

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Desire to talk to an elder

by Eppie in

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friends

hey everyone,.

i have a question: i am happily faded but i recently got the desire to talk to an elder of my old congregation.

the problem is that he doesn't know i am faded (i kinda disappeared from jw archives while moving to college), and that i do not want to get into trouble by this.

Eppie

Hey everyone,

I have a question: I am happily faded but I recently got the desire to talk to an elder of my old congregation. The problem is that he doesn't know I am faded (i kinda disappeared from JW archives while moving to college), and that i do not want to get into trouble by this. I just have so many questions left. When I left I mainly left as I wanted to do the same things as my friends, but now i have read some books (e.g. Approaching Jehovah's witnesses in Love by Wilbur Lingle) and I just want to talk to a real JW again. I could of course talk to my parents as they are still JW, but I don't want to give them hope that there is a chance that ill come back (not very soon anyway).

How are the guidelines? If I do talk to him and will be very negative, is there a chance that i can be dfd just based on that? I am also very afraid that ill burst into tears and tell him every stupid (in their eyes, i had lots of fun ;)) things i've done as i always feel guilty in front of God for doing them (i only faded about 2 yrs ago). Does anyone have experienced in such things? What should I do?

Thanks for taking the time to read this post!

Eppie