the words: intellectual laziness.
recognize this trait?
ahhh,many who apostasies from the one truth, shall we say ,adopts this trait-and transforms into epitomies of intellectual laziness...they construct the premise there is no true god to mislead others...they proceed to construct arguments to support these prefabricated conclusions with the building blocks of false logic...they convince intellectually lazy individuals the odds of a creators existence are remote...a lie recognizable to any form of honest intelligence.. craig rusbult, ph.d. explains why god refuses to provide irrefutable proof in his existence on the web page http://www.asa3.org/asa/education/views/proof.htm - "although it isn't stated directly in the bible, god seems to prefer a balance of evidence: there is enough reason to believe if we want to believe, but not enough to intellectually force belief against our will.
Elke:
This was one of the best articles I read in this forum.
The evidence for the existence of God is overwhelming. I'm sure, in a few years all types of scientists (philosophers, physicists, even mathematics..) will intellectually overwhelm such guys like haughland, steinhaug etc., but also - surprisingly(!) many members of JW's organisations who were proved as hypocrites.
The science will prove the existence of GOD !
"The very zeal of Jehovahs of armies will do this" (Isa 9:7)
reason 1. jws use a cultic language that keeps them in a constant state of social hypnosis.
transformational grammar teaches that our language directly affects our subjective experience.
in working with some former jws i had to confiscate certain words and have them create substitutes for something that was more neutral.
hawkaw:
You don't know nothing about my genuine opinions. I told before, I am a critical JW. I have no fog colored glasses on.
The blood problem is too complex to discuss about in few lines. Sorry, but I have got no time...
About the shunning stuff:
I completely reject the current WTS-policy about shunning disfellowshipped or disassociated JW's. That should happen individually in one's own conscience-decision, but not regulated, controlled and administrated. It's not biblical, I assume.
bye
erich
reason 1. jws use a cultic language that keeps them in a constant state of social hypnosis.
transformational grammar teaches that our language directly affects our subjective experience.
in working with some former jws i had to confiscate certain words and have them create substitutes for something that was more neutral.
hawkaw said:
...>School and other sources teach how to determine facts over opinions and to make logical conclusions based on the facts and not on opinions...<
Please show me any school which had told somebody in the 70's to shun blood-transfusions to prevent aids or hepatitis C.
Or, a completely different topic:
Show me any school which told somebody to shun the acquisition of NewEconomy-stocks in the late 90's !
This theme could be continued day by day without any end...
The main reason for all troubles is:
"The whole world is laying in the power of the wicked one" (1.John 5:19)
reason 1. jws use a cultic language that keeps them in a constant state of social hypnosis.
transformational grammar teaches that our language directly affects our subjective experience.
in working with some former jws i had to confiscate certain words and have them create substitutes for something that was more neutral.
Abbadon:
I tried to do my best in bringing up my son, and I had success.
(I cannot tell you the entire story; it would take weeks)
But: What is free decision?
Is, in this our world, a free decision possible ?
Tell me please, and show it to me...
From your day of birth until your day of death you underlie coercions.
That doesn't depend on whether you are JW or Catholic or atheist or muslime.
You ALWAYS underlie stress, diseases, repressions, disappointments, and physical, psychical, political or mental coercions.
Please do not believe all the empty and mindless terminology you see and hear in schools, media, TV, and so on...
Open your mind to understand the background BEHIND this corrupted and ruined global system of today! This system will vanish in every case; with WTS and GB, or without WTS and GB. And also with you and me, or without you and me...
reason 1. jws use a cultic language that keeps them in a constant state of social hypnosis.
transformational grammar teaches that our language directly affects our subjective experience.
in working with some former jws i had to confiscate certain words and have them create substitutes for something that was more neutral.
Hi ladonna,
I came into the "truth" (a term that I hate..) in the seventies.
It was my free decision. I started studying the bible in 1973/74 after the Yom-Kippur-War. It took about 7 years to convince my wife.
I had to suffer under long-lasting persecutions through my relationship and my job-employer (who was JW in the fifties, but became an enemy of JW some years after). My father disinherited me - because he accused all JW's, to give all their money and income to the WTS..
My son began to start studying the bible at the age of seven. My whole family (me, my wife and my son) got baptized in 1984.
For the mobbing in the job went on and on, I terminated my employment in 1986 and began a free job as constructor, inventor and designer for electronic hardware. I am owner of some interesting patents and inventions; but it was a very very hard time with few money and poorness for me and my family.
Since last year I am retired now. I wrote an interesting book about my life. Further, I am still busy in scientific matters. I have an own web-page with thousands of visitors but I do not reveal the address to you at this time. Have comprehension please.
'cause i want some - it's powerful stuff.
what's this about don adams opening new scrolls of technology??
huh?
Tina wrote: ..>Correction twit, you open your mind and think about the fantasy you live with. Keep your stupid myth .You haven't produced one fact, merely more religious clap trap. A tad touched is right! lol..>
(Why lol? Sorry. There is nothing to laugh...)
Thanks for your very nice and cooperative answer to me..;-(
Oh, I see you have an extremely high IQ. Think more than 180. Isn't it so?
What kind of facts do you produce?
Please tell me.
Fact is, the New World Order without wars, hunger, diseases, death etc. will take place. With or without WTS and GB.
AND MOST IMPORTANT:
WITH OR WITHOUT YOU, MISS TINA !!!!
Did you understand ??? I hope it.
P.S.: greetings to your friend Mussolini. I forgot to mention him....
'cause i want some - it's powerful stuff.
what's this about don adams opening new scrolls of technology??
huh?
Tina: > can't help it but every time i see 'new Order' I think of Hitler.T <
The New Order we are waitin for is Jehovahs Kingdom, where no disease, no war, no hunger and even no death is anymore.
Did Hitler, Stalin or George Bush sen. (who used the term "new order too!) establish such a global system ??
First let your brain think, and when done, then write....
'cause i want some - it's powerful stuff.
what's this about don adams opening new scrolls of technology??
huh?
NameWithheld: .. 'cause I want some - it's powerful stuff. What's this about Don Adams opening new scrolls of technology?? Huh? This is way out in left field even for a 'weird' JW. So JWs are the most scientific religion so JWs and science are going to collaborate to bring about god's kingdom? Whew weeee - you wanna pass that over here?..>
Please read the entire thread where I'd posted the stuff!
Let me explain and repeat:
I have pointed out, that "New Light" on biblic prophecies must provide "bridges" between the terminology of science ("ratio") on the one hand - and the terminology of christian beliefs on the other hand.
If this bridges cannot be established, WTS cannot survive too. For Jesus had said "heaven and earth will pass away but my words by no means will pass away" this will mean that those "bridges" will come; whether the GB reject the necessity or not!
This fact was the reason for I wrote :>I would hope an angel come to Don Adams opening new scrolls of technology for the New Order<
Please read my words in this context, please!
reason 1. jws use a cultic language that keeps them in a constant state of social hypnosis.
transformational grammar teaches that our language directly affects our subjective experience.
in working with some former jws i had to confiscate certain words and have them create substitutes for something that was more neutral.
Sorry.
I came in rage when I read Victors stuff.
Its writing is typical psychologic/sociologic/political terminology and demagogy.
This type of defamation is currently used in some african and asiatic states to defame JW's and to bring them down and in troubles and depressions.
He writes >They in cold blood commit atrocities in shunning loved ones in the name of God...< ????
I have a son. He is 30 years old now. He is JW like me - but it was his free decision. If he would have not agreed with JW belief, then I would have accept it!! I never applied a tiny part of repression or coercion on him in all the years. Do you think I ever would have "shunned my love to him" in a "cold blood commit atrocities, in the name of God" ? Atrocity: that's such a language Victor have used...
I know that I am a griper in this forum. You soon will see me having enemies in all sides: JW's and ex-JW's and anti-JW's.
(Same happened in a German JW-forum..)
That doesn't touch me anyway.
reason 1. jws use a cultic language that keeps them in a constant state of social hypnosis.
transformational grammar teaches that our language directly affects our subjective experience.
in working with some former jws i had to confiscate certain words and have them create substitutes for something that was more neutral.
to Victor E.:
who wrote:
...They have quick rapid-fire answers to most complex problems; this is a form of pathological thinking. They in cold blood commit atrocities in shunning loved ones in the name of God...<
At first: note:
I am a critical JW. And no hypocrite. Look at all my postings...
My native country is Austria/EU
When I read this words, I got remembered to the political terminology of the Nazi's (1941 - 1945) in the concentration camps in Germany and Austria, where thousands of JW's got tortured and murdered by cool and smart guys, who had an incredible and horrible hate to all kind of men who were thinking in other categories of kind-of-thinking than the mainstream of men....
You are no democrate at all! Go to your friends Saddam Hussein or Osama bin Laden!
If one day, I'd got confrontated with guys like you, I'd forget all my christian principles. I'd be the first JW since 2000 years who would fight with the gun in my hands(!) against guys like you. One Nazi-dictatorship, one Hitler, and one Stalin, and one Pol Pot is enough. We do not need more killing fields with defenceless lambs !!
Coward!
