seeker:
Congratulations to you and your wife, and your friends (Jw's and nonJW's). Your story is fascinating and it teaches us to see some matters not too seriously....
But what I never can understand is the fact you've been an elder (who certainly studied the bible centuries of your life), and you are found now as atheist, evolutionist, nihilist... Did you ever set your feet on the stage, 100%-convinced that everything you are going to say is absolutely in accordance with your innermost belief and conviction?
I do not think in this way, and that's the reason why I never asked for speech or other "privileges" inside of JW's org. Never, since 20 years. I refused all encouragements.
I have full comprehension to plain proclaimers (JW's), who left the org caused through matters of injustice, but never regarding ex-elders. All elders (worldwide, exJW or active JW) are fully co-responsible for all the destructive decline in JW's org, and they will be made responsible and - if necessary - punished by the Almighty God himself.
Posts by Erich
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ANYONE IN SUCCESSFUL RELATIONSHIP WITH JW
by Serena inhas anyone had any interfaith relationship with a jw that actually worked?
or are they all doomed from day one?
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How to help an active jw to go out??
by Nicolas inone of my sister who is a jw is still trying to keep contact with us and she's is supposed to shun us.
the problem is that i don't know if i want to see her again, we have almost nothing in common and i see her just once a year but she continue to send us letters at every months and she always told us that she love us.
i would like to do something to make her realize that the wbts doesn't have the truth but i know that she will consider me as an apostate if i say something bad about the jw.. black holes are where god divided by zero.
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Erich
jayhawk1 wrote:
.. about armageddon is the society has mentioned several dates. 1878, 1914, 1919, 1925, 1940's, 1975, etc. I have even heard of 2005 being a posibility....
Oooh that's interesting.
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Depression is a way of life for JW's
by butalbee inthe more i studied, the more i got sucked into being a witness, the more depressed i've become.
i don't want to do anything anymore, i mean what is the sense: the end of days is upon us!
the more i became involved with witnesses, the more i felt that i was loosing a part of myself.
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butalbee
Every witness I know is on an antidepressant--why is that?
This is no characteristic symptom for JW's. Same happens to nonJW's and exJW's ! Depressions are symptom for the disease of the whole World's system.
Including myself now...
What I would commit to you is: Watch and observe the situation inside and outside of JW's Org, and wait until changes! If you still are JW, please do not leave the Org! Only if we are part of the Org, we can undertake something to get things better. Fight against injustice! Jehovah will stay at the side of the brave and righteous ones! -
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There are still many unexplained things.
by sleepy inalthough we as humans have come to a better understanding of many things there are still enough problems to keep many minds occupied.. we think we have a good idea of how this universe is structured how it grew and got complex , with even explanations of how life forms arose.. but there are still things that puzzle me.. what is consciousness?.
there is no proper understanding of consciousness and how it works.. how can a combination of atoms in a certain configuration give rise to a tangible feeling of existence?.
what is time?.
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sleepy.
The "end of time" of Julian Barbour is am antagonist-theory to that one of mine. He tries to deny the existence of time generally.
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There are still many unexplained things.
by sleepy inalthough we as humans have come to a better understanding of many things there are still enough problems to keep many minds occupied.. we think we have a good idea of how this universe is structured how it grew and got complex , with even explanations of how life forms arose.. but there are still things that puzzle me.. what is consciousness?.
there is no proper understanding of consciousness and how it works.. how can a combination of atoms in a certain configuration give rise to a tangible feeling of existence?.
what is time?.
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sleepy.
Some of your questions (e. g. what is "time", or: how does signal-processing in the brain work etc.) has became elaborated and described in my scientific work "Method to Generate Self-Organizing Processes in Autonomous Mechanisms and Organisms". (US-Pat.US 6172941)
see http://www.sensortime.com/time-e.html
or http://www.delphion.com/details?pn=US06172941__Note: I am not ready to discuss about details of the matters in this forum. Rather via e-mail. Send your questions to: [email protected]
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why the creator book is flawed.
by sleepy ini thought i would show an excerpt from a letter i have compossed in reply to a friend.. this all goes back to about six months ago when he asked me what i thought about the creator book.. i told him i thought it was "junk".. bad move.. anyway he told several people i was being critical of the society and wrote me a long letter which i never replied to.. i recently thought my lack of a reply may indicate to him that he had proved me wrong so i have decided to write back.. please let me know if you think what i have written is reasonable.. dear ******,.
i am writing in response to your letter of 19 april 2001.. i know it is a long time in coming but i had not intended to write back after our discussion of the matter, but i have lately felt that in not replying it leaves several points unanswered.. i what you to understand why i raised the points i did and wanted you to consider carefully the evidence.. i hope you appreciate my frankness in writing this letter as i am honestly concerned about various issues and their effect on our lives.
it would be too cumbersome to discuss all points raised in your letter so i am hoping only a few will be sufficient to show when i am coming from.. my purpose is not to weaken anyone's faith but to examine carefully some important issues.. if i am wrong i will stand corrected if the relevant information is provided.. one of the main issues raised was over my attitude toward a number of the societies publications mainly the creator book .. so i will mostly deal with why i felt the way i did.. as you know i have read quite a number of books on scientific subjects many dealing with the issue of evolution , some i have read several times.. therefore i am aware of some of the complexities of the issues involved and what is believed by many scientists and researchers.. one of the problems that many scientists have with creationists and other similar beliefs is that they often employ pseudoscience in their publications.. what is pseudoscience?
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Oh, that's interesting!
That is an evidence for the fact this man cannot be found "up to date" to the state of the art in physics, mathematics, informatics, neurobiology, and other sciences. It's impossible. The man is now about 85 years old. -
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What is "zynism"?
by Nathan Natas inerich has used the term "zynism" a couple of times in some of his more recent posts, and i do not know what "zynism" is.
after doing some research, the only references to it that i could find were in german, which is one of the many languages in which i am not fluent.. would someone post a little synopsis of zynism, complete with photos and diagrams with circles and arrows and margin notes?.
great!
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Sorry all.
I meant "cynicism".
It's a greek word. In German written as "Zynismus". -
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why the creator book is flawed.
by sleepy ini thought i would show an excerpt from a letter i have compossed in reply to a friend.. this all goes back to about six months ago when he asked me what i thought about the creator book.. i told him i thought it was "junk".. bad move.. anyway he told several people i was being critical of the society and wrote me a long letter which i never replied to.. i recently thought my lack of a reply may indicate to him that he had proved me wrong so i have decided to write back.. please let me know if you think what i have written is reasonable.. dear ******,.
i am writing in response to your letter of 19 april 2001.. i know it is a long time in coming but i had not intended to write back after our discussion of the matter, but i have lately felt that in not replying it leaves several points unanswered.. i what you to understand why i raised the points i did and wanted you to consider carefully the evidence.. i hope you appreciate my frankness in writing this letter as i am honestly concerned about various issues and their effect on our lives.
it would be too cumbersome to discuss all points raised in your letter so i am hoping only a few will be sufficient to show when i am coming from.. my purpose is not to weaken anyone's faith but to examine carefully some important issues.. if i am wrong i will stand corrected if the relevant information is provided.. one of the main issues raised was over my attitude toward a number of the societies publications mainly the creator book .. so i will mostly deal with why i felt the way i did.. as you know i have read quite a number of books on scientific subjects many dealing with the issue of evolution , some i have read several times.. therefore i am aware of some of the complexities of the issues involved and what is believed by many scientists and researchers.. one of the problems that many scientists have with creationists and other similar beliefs is that they often employ pseudoscience in their publications.. what is pseudoscience?
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Who is Fred Wilson ??
I was searching on several web-sites and found the following physicist:
Fred L. Wilson
Resume & Qualifications
Fred's experience as a military intelligence officer, an engineer in the energy industry, professional educator, physicist, speaker, and seminar leader qualify him to speak with authority to general audiences who want entertaining talks with substance
Education:
B.A. majoring in Physics and Mathematics
Murray State University
Murray, KentuckyPh.D. in Physics
University of Kansas
Leadership & Professional Activities:Visiting Faculty Member, Angelo State University, San Angelo, Texas, 1997, 1999-2000; Director of TexPrep at ASU Summer 2000
Professor, Rochester Institute of Technology -- 1969-1996
Teaching wide range of courses in science and technology policy, Physics, and related courses
Curriculum leadership
International presentations in: China, Berlin, Gothenburg, Sweden, and Tokyo
Leadership in The American Physical Society (APS), Professional Society for Physics in International Affairs
Chair, Committee on International Affairs (1996)
Vice-Chair, Committee on International Affairs (1995)
Member, Committee on International Affairs (1994-1997)
International telecommunications project successfully delivering a World-Wide-Web-based system to link physicists internationally.
Secretary/Treasurer, New York State Section of the American Physical Society, 1978-1996Honors & Recognition:
Eisenhart Award for outstanding teaching
Leadership in Information Systems Development
Member of Faculty Council, and Chair for one term
Developed integrated technical analysis and management information systems as Senior Research EngineerCivic Activities & Responsibilities:
Member of Twin Mountain Tonesmen, Barbershop Chorus
Member and Treasurer of Concho Valley Archaeology Society
Member, Program Chair, and President Elect of San Angelo Dinner Club
Docent at Old Fort Concho
Deacon, and Secretary of Active Deacon Body in First Baptist Church ,
Member of the Downtown Lions Club (all in San Angelo, Texas).Speaking Experience:
Scientist Looks at the Bible, San Angelo, Texas, First Baptist
Church, San Angelo ,
and so on....Could it be: A member of the baptist church wrote the Creator Book for the WTS ??
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why the creator book is flawed.
by sleepy ini thought i would show an excerpt from a letter i have compossed in reply to a friend.. this all goes back to about six months ago when he asked me what i thought about the creator book.. i told him i thought it was "junk".. bad move.. anyway he told several people i was being critical of the society and wrote me a long letter which i never replied to.. i recently thought my lack of a reply may indicate to him that he had proved me wrong so i have decided to write back.. please let me know if you think what i have written is reasonable.. dear ******,.
i am writing in response to your letter of 19 april 2001.. i know it is a long time in coming but i had not intended to write back after our discussion of the matter, but i have lately felt that in not replying it leaves several points unanswered.. i what you to understand why i raised the points i did and wanted you to consider carefully the evidence.. i hope you appreciate my frankness in writing this letter as i am honestly concerned about various issues and their effect on our lives.
it would be too cumbersome to discuss all points raised in your letter so i am hoping only a few will be sufficient to show when i am coming from.. my purpose is not to weaken anyone's faith but to examine carefully some important issues.. if i am wrong i will stand corrected if the relevant information is provided.. one of the main issues raised was over my attitude toward a number of the societies publications mainly the creator book .. so i will mostly deal with why i felt the way i did.. as you know i have read quite a number of books on scientific subjects many dealing with the issue of evolution , some i have read several times.. therefore i am aware of some of the complexities of the issues involved and what is believed by many scientists and researchers.. one of the problems that many scientists have with creationists and other similar beliefs is that they often employ pseudoscience in their publications.. what is pseudoscience?
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..of galaxies it says “Some are so long and wide that they resemble great walls. This may surprise many how think that our universe created itself in a chance cosmic explosion.” Straw man. No scientists ( None that I know of) believe the universe was created in a chance cosmic explosion. A cosmic expansion yes .I can see how the writer could get confused ( as it is called the Big bang ) but this could only be if he has made just a cursory reading of the relevant scientific material..
P.g. 13 p 1 Talking of the expansion of the universe “This implies more than just a source of vast energy..
WTS had copied this stuff from scientific books older than 30 years.
In the 60's, some scientists indeed used same vocabulary for the description of the "big bang". Meanwhile, their cognition and knowledge increased. And to buy new books the WTS possibly has got no money... Also the “second law of thermodynamics” is mentioned on pg.24-25. The book makes the statement “...our existence is contrary to this recognised law.” A quick read about the second law of thermodynamics in a science book will dispel that notion. To put it bluntly , that statement is an error.
In fact the whole explanation given of how this “law” works is in error...
If one denies the second law of thermodynamics, he has to postulate a theory of "teleologic principle" which guides a higher order in the universe. There are some scientists (see alternative physics) that alleges such theories. The WTS has to talk with these people and hear them..;-)
(Maybe they can tell to them, that the meaning of the term "YHVH/JHWH" already asserts and proves the existence of such a teleologic principle).. lol -
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1914 Generation
by sweetone2377 in[img] [/img].
i know this has been brought up numerous times, but just how many of the 1914 generation are actually still living?
shelly.
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SaintSatan wrote:
Armageddon happened invisibly in 1975, and the millenium started the following year, invisibly, of course. So some people have already got everlasting life, they only look old...
Though written ironically and with zynism, you possibly may not lay so far away from fact and reality...;-))
Who knows?