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Posts by Erich
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35Who is the current "King of the South"?
by Azalo inever since the ussr fell it seems the jw's have been trying to find anyone to proclaim the king of the south (sorry if thats not how u say it but i'm just directly translating "rey del sur" ) just wondering if anyone knows who is the latest suspect, n korea maybe?
by the way, another example of how elitist the wts is, albeit subtle, why isnt the us the king of the south?
after all geographically speaking the former ussr is further north than the us.
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Who is the current "King of the South"?
by Azalo inever since the ussr fell it seems the jw's have been trying to find anyone to proclaim the king of the south (sorry if thats not how u say it but i'm just directly translating "rey del sur" ) just wondering if anyone knows who is the latest suspect, n korea maybe?
by the way, another example of how elitist the wts is, albeit subtle, why isnt the us the king of the south?
after all geographically speaking the former ussr is further north than the us.
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Erich
Who ?
Nobody knows in this moment.
But the one fact is sure: US and allies is not;-)
E.
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This War Could Put A Crimp In WT Prophecy
by ColdRedRain inremember when we were taught that the un was the "scarlet colored wild beast" and how she would turn on"false religion"?
if this war goes successful (and it probably will.
) they say that the un will dissolve or never again be like it once was.
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Erich
You do not understand what really happens
After this gulf war II, the cleft between US (and some allied countries) and a euo-asian group (including Russia, China, and most of the poor countries) will get deeper and wider than before. The euro-asian alliance will trust on the UN, and will strengthen its power. As a result of this gulf war II against Iraq, the world of muslime will get destabilized. In the first time after this disaster, the US-troops will play a role in resolving this problem, but when getting out of control, the US will leave this region completely (like in somalia, as you remember).Because the mentioned euro-asian alliance will be consequently the only instrument to enforce law and order in this part of the world, they had to act militarily, and they will become the new "king of the north" as prophesied in the bible. Finally, this euro-asian alliance will take measures against the US-alliance. The ideological roots of the euro-asian alliance are atheistic, and they hate messianism and zionism proclaimed by fundamentalistic war-mongering religious US-groups. Because they are in fear of a unilateral global US-imperium too, ultimately this will lead into the war of armageddon. All religious groups, with exception of those who totally reject war service and stand off, will be destroyed.
E.
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King from the North
by Cheyannesways inprior to 1978 did the jw's use daniel 11 about the king from the north and the king from the south to imply this was signs of the great tribulation coming or signs of the end?
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Erich
The "king of the North" often has changed in history.
He is defined as the military dominant imperial power. Once, it was the Soviet Union. After its collaps the United States adopted this part. And now, after the gulf war II, maybe a new euro-asian alliance (with Russia and China) will be the next "king of the north".
E.
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King from the North
by Cheyannesways inprior to 1978 did the jw's use daniel 11 about the king from the north and the king from the south to imply this was signs of the great tribulation coming or signs of the end?
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Erich
Who is the new king of the north?
I`m sure one will know it within the next 2 months.
E.
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The UN and armageddon
by mattnoel ini need some reassurance here !.
i spoke to my aunt the other day who has been out of the borg for about 20 years now.
she told me that she is really worried about world events and feels that this is it now, the un is going to crumble and then armageddon is going to come.
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Erich
Dont forget that in 1991 (the first gulf war!) they said the SAME thing you showed. Its not new.
Presently NOBODY is able to foretell the world-situation AFTER this next Irak-war. No Mr. Bush, no Pope, no Pentagon-Think-Tank, no WTS, no "prophet". Let us wait and see what happens!E.
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The UN and armageddon
by mattnoel ini need some reassurance here !.
i spoke to my aunt the other day who has been out of the borg for about 20 years now.
she told me that she is really worried about world events and feels that this is it now, the un is going to crumble and then armageddon is going to come.
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Erich
Schedule ?
I dont think there is a real "schedule" existing in regard to that disaster. Listen: There are NO types of "programmed schedules" existing in any part of the physical world, neither in organisms nor in the elementary microcosmos. Read the newest articles of scientist about that facts...
A complex world-situation as we know it (and are living in) can be compared with a complex "organism". A outside-situated supervisor can watch the state of this organism. He is able to say: this organism is bound to die, it is so sick that there is no hope on healing... But if you yourself are part of the organism (or the organism itself), then you are UNABLE to analyse and recognize your real state. Thats the prove why - as a part of a complex organism - you never can provide a type of "schedule" in regard to your own destiny.E.
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The UN and armageddon
by mattnoel ini need some reassurance here !.
i spoke to my aunt the other day who has been out of the borg for about 20 years now.
she told me that she is really worried about world events and feels that this is it now, the un is going to crumble and then armageddon is going to come.
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Erich
We have many examples showing us the consistence ob Bible`s prophecy. I think thats not the real problem.
What we indeed are missing, is a scientific theory and ideology of a worldwide social and mental collapse (=armageddon) in the sense and connection with the chaos-theory. Because many people (and here in this forum too) see this matter only through their religious spectacles and WTC-focus, it would be VERY IMPORTANT to get internet-entry to the wisdom of some WELL-KNOWN serious scientific researchers who see such a disastrous scenario with pragmatical, cool and scientific eyes. That is what we need.E.
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The UN and armageddon
by mattnoel ini need some reassurance here !.
i spoke to my aunt the other day who has been out of the borg for about 20 years now.
she told me that she is really worried about world events and feels that this is it now, the un is going to crumble and then armageddon is going to come.
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Erich
Dan The Man: <I wonder how God is going to kill us all......<
Armageddon, as I understand it from the bible, will be a combination of social, ethic, economic and ideologic disaster. In a "synergetic" manner, all these parameters combined will lead the mankind to a situation, where they will kill one each other in a boil of hate against themselves, against other people and against God (what happened in Rwanda in 1994 is type of aphorism). This process will run very very fast, and cannot be hindered; not even supervised or "recognized" as an exceptional world-situation.
E.
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The UN and armageddon
by mattnoel ini need some reassurance here !.
i spoke to my aunt the other day who has been out of the borg for about 20 years now.
she told me that she is really worried about world events and feels that this is it now, the un is going to crumble and then armageddon is going to come.
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Erich
Thief in the night?
When do you realize the thief was here? Same time when he is going to steal your asset? Certainly you will see the damage happened after you awake in the morning, next day.
Same thing will happen with the "Great Tribulation" and "Armageddon". You will realize the accident when happened. Not earlier. No human intelligence in the world will be able to say: This is a "normal war situation" or: No, this is a singular, exceptional situation, with no referent example in the human history...If you have a crash with your car, your brain do not realize the impact before you climb out from your wrecked car (if you have survived the crash).
So, dont be surprised when you - one day - read your watchtower magazine, proclaiming: Armageddon just has happened;-)
E.