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The President addresses the Nation
by designs inin a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
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The President addresses the Nation
by designs inin a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
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I didn't explain before why I recommend
"Ethnic America: A History" by Thomas Sowell
http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0465020755
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/699670.Ethnic_America
http://books.google.com/books/about/Ethnic_America.html?id=M2GfO8IOq8cCIt's the history of various ethnic groups in the US from the time they got here
onward. One point to take from it is most of the ethnic groups, when they first
got to the US, formed their own neighborhoods. It makes sense in a way--they
spoke the same language and could help each other along.But with only a couple of exceptions (the Japanese are one, maybe a little
surprising after WWII), there was also distrust of outsiders and distrust from
outside. There was a higher degree of crime, drunkenness, fights, poor educa-
tion, unemployment, etc., till they assimilated better. (Native American reser-
vations are a little like an institutionalized version with about half faring
better trying to make their way outside of one.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_reservation#Law_enforcement_and_crime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_social_statistics_of_Native_AmericansThe African Americans are a special case due to the usual 'centric intolerance
but also pseudoscience about better and worse races and leftover rationalizations
originating when they were used for slavery. The separateness was more extreme
and assimilation is not complete: there's still segregation, more explicit and
implicit racism among Republicans, etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_segregation_in_the_United_States#Contemporary_segregation"The survey also found that some 79% of Republicans expressed explicit racial
prejudice compared to 32% of Democrats. The implicit test too showed that 64% of
Republicans had racial prejudice compared to 55% of Democrats, while independents
came in at 49%."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/27/racial-prejudice-worsened-obamaRationalizing inferiority due to the problems feeds the problem. The helpful
effort has to be for equal opportunity for education, but most generally greater
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The President addresses the Nation
by designs inin a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
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Thought crime:
Wrong. Thinkcrime in 1984 was when it was determined, often by telescreens, that
someone had a criminal thought against the gov't. This would be to think that
someone else has a criminal thought with no more evidence than the thought of the
thought, I think, which is a forced thought of imaginable thoughts because it
either wasn't thought through or they were through with the thoughtful and would
rather be thought well of by the thoughtless who think they know what you think
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The President addresses the Nation
by designs inin a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
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PS: if they have a case to determine if TM's civil rights were violated, the
prosecution will focus on GZ's report, nominal look for TM's whereabouts on the
other side of the block and halfway back, and confrontation, and claim the motive
was implicit racism. That's clearer when there's no apparent motive for someone
to hassle someone of a different race, in this case an African American.Defense will say GZ was trained to report someone walking around without appar-
ent purpose on people's lawns at night in the rain. TM seems to have chosen a
property on the north side of the block for privacy for a phone call instead of
his father's back yard to the south. GZ didn't identify by race till asked.GZ went to the other side of the block for an address to give the police admit-
ting he was still curious where TM went. But he's recorded as wanting the police
to handle it.If we look for an extra motive for GZ's look for TM's whereabouts, the most ap-
parent choice would be TM's stare-down, confirmed by Jeantel as unfriendly.
TM's insensitive remark to her about someone of another ethnicity wasn't years
ago but during the event in question. GZ started saying there's something off
about TM, he was acting like an a**hole--a tough guy--a punk, a reaction someone
of the same race would likely have, when TM acted territorial about an area that
wasn't his territory with his stare-down and confrontational approach. GZ's
reaction indicates that made TM seem to be acting oddly even more to him.GZ claims to have given up determining TM's whereabouts and was returning to
his truck when TM appeared. Jeantel has TM claim GZ was following him, but even
if we open up the possibilities of the paths of the two men TM could have been
home or mostly there instead of no farther south by this time if he wanted to be.The one who made the initial insensitive comment or got physical first are un-
certain. We're more sure of events once we have TM using his knees to pin GZ's
arms to the ground while punching his face.Prosecution will have to show there was no apparent reasonable motive for the
report or look on the parallel street, then make a case that, beyond a doubt,
racism is left as the ulterior motive. Such things happen, and it's important
we try to diminish how often, but I don't know how the prosecution expects to win
their case with these people as the examples.Another bunch of money will be spent for the protesters, Sharpton, Jackson,
etc., who won't get what they want again, get upset again, and we'll foot the
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The President addresses the Nation
by designs inin a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
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Zimmerman’s brother responds: Obama’s statement reinforced ‘mythology surround-
ing the case’While he disagreed with Obama’s characterization of some of the facts of the
case, he agreed that much work needs to be done to improve the lot of black youth
across the country.President Obama said in the press conference, “When Trayvon Martin was first
shot, I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is
Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.”The President said that the nation must address the problems faced by young
black males.“We need to spend some time in thinking about how do we bolster and reinforce
our African-American boys,” he said, adding that he and First Lady Michelle Obama
often discuss the issue.Zimmerman Jr. told TheDC that his brother was doing exactly what the president
suggested well before he encountered Trayvon Martin in February 2012.“George is a Hispanic man who was mentoring two African American children be-
fore the incident,” Zimmerman recalled. He told The DC that the father of those
children is serving a life sentence in prison. “It goes without saying that Afri-
can Americans are overrepresented in the criminal justice system, and I think
George was trying to break that cycle.”“I can’t think of a better way to encourage children than to take the time to
show them that they matter as people and, more importantly to society at large,”
than engaging in mentoring roles, said Zimmerman Jr.
The President acknowledged that Florida’s Stand Your Ground law did not neces-
sarily apply in the Zimmerman case, but he addressed Stand Your Ground laws in
his unscripted remarks.“And for those who resist that idea that we should think about something like
these ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws, I just ask people to consider, if Trayvon Martin
was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk?”Zimmerman Jr. told TheDC that “the scenario [the President] laid out was am-
biguous.”Florida governor Rick Scott, a Republican, held a prayer vigil on Thursday with
a group called the Dream Defenders. That group hopes to get Stand Your Ground
repealed, but Scott has said that he has no plans to repeal the law.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/19/zimmermans-brother-responds-obamas-statement-only-reinforced-mythology-surrounding-the-case/One objection may be Obama implying that the GZ/TM case was one of TM, an Afri-
can American showing good behavior so a non-African-American hassling them sug-
gests implicit racism. We don't have a nice guy and a bad guy with those two--we
have two not so nice guys, with the African American being territorial about hav-
ing a phone call on someone else's property at night in the rain and an off duty
Neighborhood Watch guy who made a nominal look for his whereabouts beyond report-
ing it from a truck. Either of them has said something insensitive about someone
of another ethnicity or shoved someone at the least, TM more recently, and kneel-
ing to pin someone's arms down while beating them in the head is sadistic--not a
good promo photo for Skittles.The prosecuter wants to get GZ on the stand and find difficulties in GZ's test-
imony, but there are several problems with that:1. I have to tilt my head and say, "Huh?" about some of the things both GZ and
Jeantel said.2. The prosecuter said some such things, like forced points, during the trial.
His south to north chase idea would add to them.If TM was confronted by GZ at TM's father's house, he was home. Why didn't he
just pull out the ID from his wallet or knock on the door to get someone inside
to identify him?None of the witnesses said they heard TM or GZ south of the shooting scene,
and Jeantel may have misunderstood where TM was during her phone call.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman#Witness_accountsImagining GZ pulling out his gun to scare TM by TM's father's house at the
south end of the block just leaves us with a couple more "I don't know"s we can't
decide with. Did GZ, unprovoked, scare TM with his gun or did TM provoke GZ till
GZ pulled his gun on TM? Did GZ chase with his gun drawn or run after TM tried
to disarm him? The fight up north seems unlikely either way--either TM would
keep running or disarm GZ before making a fistfight of it.You still end up with TM on GZ, kneeling on GZ's arms and punching his head,
except while leaving the gun in GZ's right hand. But there's a biological reason
to doubt that was the scenario: wrists bend. If it's imagined anyway, GZ's de-
fense claim is still credible except he took a longer beating with his gun drawn
before using it, still not wanting to risk TM would grab it and use it on him.Prosecution would still need to show that worse happened beyond a reasonable
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The President addresses the Nation
by designs inin a speech that is considered one of the most personal given by the president, or any past president, president obama speaks about treyvon martin being him 35 years agoand- violence, prejudice, the reach and limits of the states and the federal government, and the soul searching to follow.
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he, the president, invokes martin luther king's- 'the content of character' quote to spark a healthy debate in this country.. www.cnn.com.
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"Ethnic America: A History" by Thomas Sowell
http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0465020755
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/699670.Ethnic_America
http://books.google.com/books/about/Ethnic_America.html?id=M2GfO8IOq8cC -
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Protesting
by zound inis watchtower baiting apostates with this new awake?.
"is protest the answer?".
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201307/is-protest-the-answer/.
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New Hope and Happiness..
by new hope and happiness infuture existence is non existence.... but our hearts and reason long for future existence...its our reason to exist.... so when we are sold the dream of a " paradise earth" its a dream as real as the sun might shine tomorrow..... its advertising and marketing, its lies that cant be justified but having left the " lie" of a future paradise earth is not the world one big " paradise earth" with its marketing?.
how do we find ourselfs ?.
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Human powered flight
by fulltimestudent in.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=syjq10eqkog#at=26 .
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Cool experiment if not practical.
The last dozen or so links at the bottom of the page at the next link feature
flight with wingsuits, only practical if you're near a cliff, flight that's
only practical if you have a jet pack, and Franz Reichelt, who wasn't practical.
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Food For Logical Thought...
by braincleaned insometimes we waste hours and hours debating a subject like the flood, and the impossible scientific and evolutionary consequences that it entails.
we go into great debates about how all of is is possible, what a "kind" means (species, obviously not)... etc.... but believers will not stop believing... so here is something even a child would think of more logically:if god is all powerful and love why would he have not just made the wicked drop dead, painlessly?
simply, humanly.
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PS to my earlier post:
The basic concepts of God and atheism don't come with character determinants,
names for God, interventions, etc. All-beneficence is an added stipulation I
wouldn't recommend: if God were all-beneficent we'd all live in heavenly circum-
stances forever and we don't. Nothing of ethics or the known things prove God
whether God exists or not. Giving the bad things of the world as proof God isn't
is as illogical as giving intelligent design as proof God is.
