Posts by jamiebowers

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Are there any songs that remind you of being a jw ?

by man in black in

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this afternoon the song music box dancer came on the radio and i was instantly transported back to 1978 when my best jw friend got married.. this was "their" song ,, they are now divorced and one of them left the religion and is remarried.. another song that makes my skin crawl from a jw standpoint is mambo # 5.. there was an elder from my old hall, j. renfroe who always was telling the young people what music was acceptable for them to listen to.. and this guy was just so opinionated regarding everything.. so one time at a wedding this song comes on and he starts dancing almost uncontrollably.

it was agony to watch, and i ( and many others felt embarrassed for him because of how he was dancing and how his self rightous opinions seemed to be thrown to the wind this evening.. any other examples of music that became tainted from a jw experience ?.

jamiebowers

Hey Fade-Away, I love that song, and I'm probably much older than you!

And the song that reminds me of being a jw is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5KZEvLAFok

It made me think about a two-fold secret that I was keeping. One that I was living in terror of my jw husband, and two, the elders expected me to stay in that distressing situation. I knew that I would have to give up my God and my family and hoped that I would live to tell what was happening to me.

I have a tale to tell
Sometimes it gets so hard to hide it well
I was not ready for the fall
Too blind to see the writing on the wall

Chorus:

A man can tell a thousand lies
I've learned my lesson well
Hope I live to tell
The secret I have learned, 'till then
It will burn inside of me

I know where beauty lives
I've seen it once, I know the warmth she gives
The light that you could never see
It shines inside, you can't take that from me

(chorus)

2nd Chorus:

The truth is never far behind
You kept it hidden well
If I live to tell
The secret I knew then
Will I ever have the chance again

If I ran away, I'd never have the strength
To go very far
How could they hear the beating of my heart
Will it grow cold
The secret that I hide, will I grow old
How would they hear
When would they learn
How would they know

(chorus)
(2nd chorus)

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Lore, please read....

by jamiebowers in

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your private messages..

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your private messages.

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Earthquake

by Billzfan23 in

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just felt a tremor in boston and was on the phone when it happened with a coworker in dc - shook the building there :).

must be the last days!.

jamiebowers

Only problem now is, the subway's totally backed up, I think, and moving at a snail's pace. Here's hoping I can make it home. Home computer is too damaged by malware to comment on JWN, though (long story, technically my fault, but not my fault simultaneously), so...I can probably just e-mail Jamie or something assuming I make it home and all...

--sd-7

I haven't heard from SD-7 this evening. I hope he made it home okay.

I'm on NE Ohio, and I didn't feel the earthquake at all at my house, which is 91 years old. My husband was sitting in a car about 15 miles away, and the whole car was shaking.

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Open Letter To The Governing Body Of Jehovahs Witnesses

by Bangalore in

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open letter to the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.. source : http://www.testimoni-di-geova.info/spip.php?article129.

dear brothers,.

i served for 27 years as an elder in the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses.

jamiebowers

Marked

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Prayers/thoughts for Mrs. Rabbit

by talesin in

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mrs. rabbit is having surgery later today.. .

please send your thoughts/prayers/healing energy.. .

i didn't tell them i was posting this, and would like to surprise rabbit with lots of well wishes.

jamiebowers

Glad to hear the surgery went welll. Speedy recovery!

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I am so sad to pass this news along to you about our Dear Sacrificial Loon

by BabaYaga in

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i just heard from his brother that he has passed.

several of you know that he has been fighting cancer for a while now.. oh, sac!

i am so very sorry you have left this world... rest in peace, joy, and light... your fight, suffering, and fears are put to rest.. strength and love to all who love you.. .

jamiebowers

So sorry to hear this. RIP.

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2,611 miles in five days.

by JeffT in

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just got back from driving my daughter, her significant other, daughter's cat and s.o.

's dog back to grad school in boulder, co. .

some observations:.

jamiebowers

Wyoming is randomly dotted with little collections of industrial equipment, they look like a generator and a couple of 250 gallon hot water heaters. Are these gas wells? There isn't anything anywhere near them that would require water.

I read a few years ago that Wyoming's economy is booming due to the mining of clean coal. The operations you saw may be doing just that. Welcome home...glad you returned safely.

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Lies Have Flashed Forth! - rap song by sd-7

by sd-7 in

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from a world that is ending.

dont you ever lose hope and.

from a world that is ending.

jamiebowers

I remember you said a while back that you wanted to write a rap song. The thought of you actually rapping it is pretty funny though. Most people don't know how well spoken you are. Hell, if you threw a couple of "F" words in there, I'd have a better chance of pulling it off, LOL!

Love ya, dear heart. Glad to see you have your creaive juices flowing!

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Finding peace

by Nickolas in

this is for those of you who are familiar with my periodic rants about being married to a jehovah's witness.

you won't be seeing any more of them.. my wife and i were up before dawn on friday and spent the entire day on our boat, trolling 10 miles from shore and talking.

we talked about our lives together, the ground we've covered in the 40 years since we met as university freshmen.

jamiebowers

Nic, I am so happy for you and your wife. There's nothing better than a meeting of the minds with someone you love.

When she finally finally caved in to the idea that his decision could be "right" for him, I brought in the 800-pound gorilla. "But you always always always allow Watchtower to decide things for you. If a man beats his wife, she can divorce but never remarry if he remains celebate. Even if he went to jail, she could not remarry." She hemmed and hawed.

OTWO, it's such a shame that your wife can't really see the truth about the Watchtower's vile control over people. My jw ex-husband wasn't just beating me...he was strangling me and terrorizing me by driving towards a tree or into oncoming traffic, and then would veer back on course at the very last possible moment. The last few days that we were together he outright told me that he was going to kill me and then kill himself. He was crazy enough that a judge ordered forced committment to a mental institution. Last year I completed the Mosaic exam featured on Oprah that scores the likelihood of domestic violence ending in homicide. My situation scored a 9 out of 10.

Yet the elders showed up to my home unannounced and uninvited and pressured me into remaining in this marriage. When I refused, they informed me that I would have to prove adultery on his part. They made it seem like those were my only two options; remain in the marriage or stalk the guy who was threatening to kill me. Still a full fledged believer, I was so desperate to make them understand how frightened I was that I said I would da myself before doing either one of those things. Their answer was, "Don't bother. We'll df you instead."

A few months passed by, and I had moved twice, assuming I was df'd. My jw mom and step-father showed up, again, unannounced and uninvited to ask me if my husband had scriptural grounds for divorce. In that moment I realized that I would never be free of this man unless I "confessed". I had already given up all legal claims to our home, spousal support and all other marital assets, and then my own family was used by him against me. All because that is what the Wathtower dictated.

And the sad thing is that there are thousands who have suffered even more than I did. All because the Watchtower says so.

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I thought the world was JEHOVAH'S

by Tired of the Hypocrisy in

a few years back, my son who i tried hard not to get in too deep with the borg was at a football game with some witless kids and a few like himself, parents halfway in the borg.

well he and his brother who was doing all he could to be smiled upon by the elders arrived at the playing field and were just sort of mingling and waiting for the rest of the people to show up, when one really judgmental elder's kid asked another boy why he had worn a south park shirt to the game.

the sputh park shirt kid was pretty sarcastic and answered the question with a question.

jamiebowers

I thought Satan was ruler of the world

That was my first thought too.