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  Does anyone know who Ray Franz wrote this letter to? The date?

  by Wonderment in

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  the letter (copy below) was submitted by pixies on 8/13/2006 on page 2 of link below:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/118479/2/a-fair-view-of-fred-franz-translation-abilities .

  here is some further observations by ray franz in response to a question regarding his uncle fw franz-s translating abilities:.

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  jamiebowers

  Ray Franz's statement about Fred Franz is referenced here:

  http://www.letusreason.org/JW39.htm

  According to Raymond Franz, only Fred Franz had "sufficient knowledge of the Bible languages to attempt translation of this kind. He had studied Greek for two years in the University of Cincinnati but was only self taught In Hebrew." Raymond Franz, Crisis of Conscience (Atlanta: Commentary Press, 1983), 50

  The above quote can be found right after the first citation of the Walsh trial transcripts. In the second citaton of the trial transcript, Fred couldn't read the OT in Hebrew.
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  Child Baptism and Disfelowshipping

  by + in

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  child baptim by jw .

  child disfellowshipping by jw.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqgdas_ska.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqGdaS_SKA
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  Graduation and Birthday

  by mrsjones5 in

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  today my oldest son shawn is graduating from high school and it's my birthday.

  i'm a proud mama.

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  jamiebowers

  Congrats Shawn! Happy Birthday lovely lady!
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  Got My First Shunning Last Night - And I am NOT Even a JW!!!

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow!!.

  last night i go to the grocery store and see this guy, always been a nice guy, always says "hello, how have you been, we mised you at the hall" crap.

  and i say "never been better, nice to see you" you know the ususal pleasantries.... not last night.. we go into the store almost simultaneously (from different directions) and as soon as he sees me he dashes towards the shopping carts.

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  jamiebowers

  If things keep going on at the same rate they will soon only be able to talk to one another.

  Tht won't work either, what with all of the marking ging on within the congregations.
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  Just finished reading 'The Crucible'

  by sd-7 in

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  2. friends

  you know, by arthur miller?

  well, it's a big deal for me because when i was in school i was assigned to read it, and my mom put a stop to it, going so far as to write a note to the teacher explaining that i couldn't read it because it had witchcraft in it.

  there was a bit of back and forth with the teacher over that.

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  Of course it depends upon what part of the world in which a jw lives, but I can easily see this play being forbidden by the elders. SD-7's mom may have objected to the references to magic in the play, but the Watch Tower higher ups who instructed her to object had different reasons. I think they were trying to hide from the obvious comparison of the legalism in the play and the organization.
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  Early in their careers: Music thread...

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  2. entertainment

  some groups were just better, earlier in their careers.

  for others they got better as they moved along.

  the beatles got better and better.. but for others like rod stewart for example.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F01aLeErvoU
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  Sparlock - the aposta-superhero

  by Lady Viola in

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  2. bible

  i don't know about you, but i would love a sparlock t-shirt!!

  any creative apostates who can make a digital drawing of the wizard??

  :-d. .

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  Contact Tuesday here on JWN or Tim Kilgore on Youtube.
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  Lurker's first post

  by sseveninches in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi guys,.

  i call myself a lurker, but it's really been a short time since i've known about this site...it's only been five days.

  i discovered this site while doing personal research on the topics of porneia, oral sex, and mutual masturbation, and found a thread on this site about it.

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  jamiebowers

  Welcome! A fade should be easy once you graduate and start a new career. You can find a job and move away. In the meantime, read Steven Hassan's Combatting Cult Mind Control before releasing any snippets of information to your family. There's a particular way to awaken those under mind control.

  If you want to read more abut the true nature of the Watch Tower, check out jwfacts.com, freeminds.org, and watchtowerdocuments.com.
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  Watchtower's New "Toy Story" - What Parents Need To Know

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've uploaded a new blog article that addresses the latest dvd release at the current district convention, namely "become jehovah's friend!

  " - the tale of young caleb and his brush with divine wrath over a plastic toy wizard.

  a link to the article, which includes the youtube samples of the production, is below:.

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  jamiebowers

  I've emailed Cedars my comments from home just as I posted them on the blog last night. I don't know why my ISP would be associated with spam.
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  When you are DF'd or DA'd, they still keep tabs on you...

  by MC RubberMallet in

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  In my experience, the only time I was contacted after being df'd was probably because my mom learned of my new address and asked the elders to contact me. This was prior to the internet being widely available, so I doubt they found me on their own, as my last name was different, I was in a state different than the one I was df'd from, and I'd moved several times.

  They never bothered me again after the initial visit, because I told them that my current husband would more than likely use physical force against them. He really, really, really doesn't like jws.