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  Does anyone know who Ray Franz wrote this letter to? The date?

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the letter (copy below) was submitted by pixies on 8/13/2006 on page 2 of link below:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/118479/2/a-fair-view-of-fred-franz-translation-abilities .

  here is some further observations by ray franz in response to a question regarding his uncle fw franz-s translating abilities:.

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  jamiebowers

  You're welcome, but I'm female.
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  Does anyone know who Ray Franz wrote this letter to? The date?

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the letter (copy below) was submitted by pixies on 8/13/2006 on page 2 of link below:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/118479/2/a-fair-view-of-fred-franz-translation-abilities .

  here is some further observations by ray franz in response to a question regarding his uncle fw franz-s translating abilities:.

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  jamiebowers

  jamiebowers:

  Excuse me, but I could not find the above letter in that link. What I did find was a heavy distortion of facts, and outright lies. That is not a reliable site at all.

  No, but if you look in COC, which was quoted in my post, you may find the answer there. I don't know. I just Googled and found that page, because no one else responded to you.
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  Origins of Sparlock the Warrior Wizard - YouTube Video

  by 00DAD in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's an excellent critical analysis of the new wt video.

  the author claims "fair use" so it may stay up, but you should watch it before it gets pulled too.

  origins of sparlock the warrior wizard

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  jamiebowers

  This video was made by one of my ex-jw "kids". He did an excellent job.

  BTT
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  New Message from the Governing Body !!!

  by discreetslave in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc2ghcxmdku&feature=youtube

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  jamiebowers

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxJnIgNNq8U
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  Does anyone know who Ray Franz wrote this letter to? The date?

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the letter (copy below) was submitted by pixies on 8/13/2006 on page 2 of link below:.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/118479/2/a-fair-view-of-fred-franz-translation-abilities .

  here is some further observations by ray franz in response to a question regarding his uncle fw franz-s translating abilities:.

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  jamiebowers

  Ray Franz's statement about Fred Franz is referenced here:

  http://www.letusreason.org/JW39.htm

  According to Raymond Franz, only Fred Franz had "sufficient knowledge of the Bible languages to attempt translation of this kind. He had studied Greek for two years in the University of Cincinnati but was only self taught In Hebrew." Raymond Franz, Crisis of Conscience (Atlanta: Commentary Press, 1983), 50

  The above quote can be found right after the first citation of the Walsh trial transcripts. In the second citaton of the trial transcript, Fred couldn't read the OT in Hebrew.
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  Child Baptism and Disfelowshipping

  by + in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  child baptim by jw .

  child disfellowshipping by jw.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqgdas_ska.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msqGdaS_SKA
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  Graduation and Birthday

  by mrsjones5 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today my oldest son shawn is graduating from high school and it's my birthday.

  i'm a proud mama.

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  jamiebowers

  Congrats Shawn! Happy Birthday lovely lady!
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  Got My First Shunning Last Night - And I am NOT Even a JW!!!

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  wow!!.

  last night i go to the grocery store and see this guy, always been a nice guy, always says "hello, how have you been, we mised you at the hall" crap.

  and i say "never been better, nice to see you" you know the ususal pleasantries.... not last night.. we go into the store almost simultaneously (from different directions) and as soon as he sees me he dashes towards the shopping carts.

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  jamiebowers

  If things keep going on at the same rate they will soon only be able to talk to one another.

  Tht won't work either, what with all of the marking ging on within the congregations.
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  Just finished reading 'The Crucible'

  by sd-7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you know, by arthur miller?

  well, it's a big deal for me because when i was in school i was assigned to read it, and my mom put a stop to it, going so far as to write a note to the teacher explaining that i couldn't read it because it had witchcraft in it.

  there was a bit of back and forth with the teacher over that.

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  jamiebowers

  Of course it depends upon what part of the world in which a jw lives, but I can easily see this play being forbidden by the elders. SD-7's mom may have objected to the references to magic in the play, but the Watch Tower higher ups who instructed her to object had different reasons. I think they were trying to hide from the obvious comparison of the legalism in the play and the organization.
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  Early in their careers: Music thread...

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  some groups were just better, earlier in their careers.

  for others they got better as they moved along.

  the beatles got better and better.. but for others like rod stewart for example.

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  jamiebowers

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F01aLeErvoU