posted on www.christianwitnesses.com.
the federal public ministry at ceara, brazil, on july 14, 2011 filed a civil action against the religion of jehovah's witnesses in the 8th federal court for practicing religious discrimination against former members.
prosecutor nilce cunha rodrigues has taken on official representation of sebastian oliveira (ramos) who, after being expelled from the religion was discriminated against by colleagues, friends and relatives, including his mother, in accord with norms of the jehovahs witnesses who are headed by a governing body of the watchtower society.
(((Woody22))), I feel ya! It's coming up on 24 years that my jw mom has completely shunned me.
If anything transpires from this case, it may be that a little wiggle room will be provided for those jws who don't want to shun their friends and relatives.
may you all have peace!.
i would like to know something, if you will indulge me, please - thank you!
to what extent did you, as a jw... read/know the contents of the bible?
I started pioneering, (auxillary until I was approved as a regular), right after baptism, and I only studied for six months before baptism. So between work, pioneering, preparing for all of the meetings, keeping up on reading all of the magazines, and normal life stuff like shopping, cooking, cleaning, laundry, paying bills, taking care of car problems, dealing with a lunatic jw husband, etc., there was no time to actually read the Bible thoroughly or research what the Watchtower said. I was the perfect mark.
i'm a long time lurker here.. i'm not and never have been a jw, but i am trying to get an understanding of what it means to be disfellowshipped for the sake of someone i know.. my husband and i pastor a small church, we're nothing special, just a group of people who get together to seek god.
we're open to everyone and people pop in as they want to.
recently a woman in her early twenties has started turning up.
You're so sweet to help her. What you're doing may be the biggest eye opener your friend will ever have, because you are a truly kind "worldly" person. She's been taught that all "worldly" people are bad in some way. If she can't take being involved with ex-jws of differing beliefs, her best bet would be to start out by reading Ray Franz's "Crisis of Conscience" and "In Search of Christian Freedom". It may help her to see how a Watchtower insider describes the organization and how he went on to refine his faith.
i'd like the input of the guys, maybe some of you who have been married or in a serious relationship for some time.
if you were having an affair and your wife found out about it, would you want her to tell you she knew?
would it serve a purpose, that is, make you end the affair, or on the other hand, push it over the edge to be with the other person?
For all of those complaining about attacks on the "other woman", please note that SAH stated early on that this particular "other woman" is known to pursue men for financial gain. I never said that all "other women" were just in it for the payday or are primarily to blame. That being the case, SAH's husband is being conned by a grifter. Yes, he should know better, especially since he is of a mature age and a married family man. But in my estimation, this kind of affair is different than just married man meets single woman, and they fall in love. This is a case where a highly skilled interloper is leading an older man on for financial profit, regardless of his state of matrimony.
so, i'm back, and many of you wanted me to post the unfolding drama that is my life at the moment.. last week i came out and told my father that i was in the navy, and was going to be trying out for aviation search air rescue.
it's an extensive rate, and one that has a 40% failure rate among those who qualify.
so needless to say, i do nothing but run and swim.. anyways, the reaction was what i expected.
Thank you for your service to our country, and best wishes on your upcoming wedding. Your family has failed to drag you down to the cult's level...epic win for you!
its my wife's and i first anniversary today.
believe it or not, we are doing just fine despite being "worldly".
heck, my wife has never even been a jw and i've been a heathen for many years now.
Happy Anniversary! For future reference: anytime you're approached by a aggle of jws, simply start praying aloud and speaking in tongues. They'll run.
i don't even know where to begin but i'm having trouble with my oldest son (grown) who just moved back home.
he recently got fired and kicked out by his roommate because he has (in my opinion and the rest of my family) an alcohol and pot problem.
he doesn't think he does because he can go days without either, a whole other story.
With mental illness being in the family, insist that he is evaluated by professionals. And after a quick Google search, I've found that spice is illegal in Florida.
http://www.wcjb.com/news/9413/k-2-or-spice-will-be-illegal-in-florida
If he refuses to get mental health help, I suppose you could allow the police to search his room and arrest him. He may be court ordered then to get mental health and drug treatment.
hi guys, been a while since i've posted.
summer is very busy at my job, lots of ot, which is good because winter is slow and i barely get my f/t hours.
anyway, i had to post this to see if anyone has seen a similiar situation in their congregation.. i drive a lot for work, do home visits for a local visiting nurse association.
I heard from my non-jw aunt that an elder and his pioneer wife owned a little sandwich shop that also sold beer. It was common knowledge that they both drank heavily, because they did it in public. Ironically, they didn't lose their "privileges" for that but because they spoke to their df'd adult daughter. I've heard of a few others in different congregations that were heavy drinkers, but who could blame them? I'd probably be a drunk too if I was still a jw.
i'd like the input of the guys, maybe some of you who have been married or in a serious relationship for some time.
if you were having an affair and your wife found out about it, would you want her to tell you she knew?
would it serve a purpose, that is, make you end the affair, or on the other hand, push it over the edge to be with the other person?
Dang, dear JB (peace to you!) - Girl, I'm glad I ain't married to you! LOLOLOLOL!
Well, one thing about being married to me, or just knowing me, is that you never have to wonder how I feel or what I'm thinking. LOL! There's been a few times in my marriage that I've had to cut to the chase wth my husband. It wasn't about adultery but something he was ashamed of and tried to hide from me. He was relieved to learn that I knew and confronted him about it, because he didn't have to carry the worry or the guilt. I hope the same happens for SAH.
I'm not angry with my husband, I'm disappointed. He doesn't take a stand for his daughters or myself. He would rather try to keep the peace with his parents than do the right thing for the rest of us.
I know how you feel. Although it wasn't jw related, my husband's family used to to mistreat me. I assumed you were angry, because I sure was! Fortunately, my husband manned up and put a stop to it but not without a little motivation from me. It's been so long ago that I don't remember the exact words, but it was something like, "I put you ahead of everyone else, and I expect a real man to do the same for me". The problem is that your husband has that extra Watchtower conditioning.
Nugget's suggestions, as always, are very good. She's always reasonable. Me, on the other hand, I'm hell on wheels, LOL! Seriously though, please check out Combatting Cult Mind Control. It sounds as though your husband talks the talk but can't walk the walk whn it comes to the Watchtower. If he chases the elders away, chances are good that he'll be shunned by his family. Shunning is very painful but it's a whole lot easier when you understand the dynamics of the cult thinking that causes the shunning in the first place.
