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  ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE TO CHANGE

  by SethBridge in

  1. social
  2. family

  accept the challenge to change.

  that is the way we feel in the congregation, there is a missing piece, you.

  there are a lot of the friends who ask about you and tell us to tell you they love you and miss you.

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  jamiebowers

  I'm sorry, but I don't have the heart or the stomach to wade through so much bullshit. I did manage to catch a few lines, though. I'll list a few of what my responses would be. If you want to use them, you'll have to Google some reference material. I read so much that I can never remember where I read it. In the meantime, try to remember that your mother is under the influence of cult mind control. And no matter how hurtful her words are, they are also worthless.

  • Accept the challenge to change: It doesn't work on most people, and for the ones it does, there's no evidence that they are not still gay at heart.
  • Concern about an eating disorder and suicide attempts: These are symptoms of people who are not accepted for who they are. Once acceptance is gained, (with or without family and friends), most gay people don't continue to self harm. For those who do, they at least have a chance of getting better with therapy.
  • Worry about AIDS: Anyone can get AIDS. It's not the "gay disease".
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  Newbie - Not ex-JW

  by cog_survivor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been lurking on the forum for over a year now.

  i'm not an ex jw but have some weird connections to the group none the less.. i was raised in the worldwide church of god.

  a lot in common with jws.

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  jamiebowers

  Welcome!
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  update on my boy

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my son came to visit today, he and i are getting a lot closer since he left his jw home and thanks largely to his mother and step father alienating him big time.

  he needs one of his parents to help him out at times and he can't turn to his mother.

  thats sad but its her loss, and his i guess.. anyway, he recently got himself a girlfriend, a worldly girl at that.

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  jamiebowers

  Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  Nugget's Aposta-Birthday Party

  by cantleave in

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  jamiebowers

  Loved the photos! Your son has a beautiful face. I could see him on a Campbells soup can.
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  Kinda new here. A Backstory.

  by SethBridge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im kind of new here.

  i was a former member of this site, a little over a year ago.

  had planned on writing a backstory of what happened in the past year but decided to keep it simple.

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  jamiebowers

  Jamie - My life is okay now. I've still been dealing with a lot of drama from my family but not living in the same city as them has really protected me from it. My coming out was almost like a hit and run. I've only been back in my hometown twice and one time literally was only for a few of minutes. Which of course, with bad timing, ended up with me having to speak to JW grandfather and also a cousin of mine that had previously accused my sister and I of being lovers... Haha. JWs truly are sweet aren't they. But in regards to your question, Id be lying if I said I was doing that well. Its been tough. And I truly believe that my family were the loves of my life. I grew up with a huge family and we were all so close. Even the ones I talk to still accuse of being stubborn and they think that the situation is partly my fault. I dunno. I have a very strange story about how weird my situation is with the majority of my family that I will share later.

  Well, I'd think you beng gay would've put an end to any suspicions of you and your sister being lovers. You should've asked, "What would put an idea like that n your head? Is that what you did with your sibling?" LOL!

  Dearie, you can't pick your relatives, so go out and form your own family wit some really good friends. You might have a head start with the ex-jws in Denver.
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  Anonymous Message to Watchtower

  by jwleaks in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.bit.ly/jwleaks-anonymous.

  hello citizens of the world.

  we are anonymous.. dear brothers and sisters,.

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  jamiebowers

  I agree that the police/government should have these files and investigate each one....also that most accusations probably have substance to them. However, publishing names indiscriminately, without first verifying facts could prove libelous and damage the reputation of some innocent individuals. I know some teachers have been falsely accused by students with malicious intent.

  Well, that's the Watch Tower's fault. If the organization would've done the right thing in the first place, these cases would've been reported to the police, so they could've been investigated by professionals.

  Bill Bowen has been saying for years that the society has a database with the names of more than 23,000 child molesters. I hope Anonymous can bring it to light. Here is what they've done so far:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_events_associated_with_Anonymous
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  Kinda new here. A Backstory.

  by SethBridge in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im kind of new here.

  i was a former member of this site, a little over a year ago.

  had planned on writing a backstory of what happened in the past year but decided to keep it simple.

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  jamiebowers

  Welcome to JWN! I hope you respond to Diest and meet up with some other ex-jws. Your parents reaction is sad but predictable. How is your life now?
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  Questions about disfellowshipping and 'non-sanctioned' shunning

  by Steve_C in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  basically, i have a couple of questions about the current rules regarding disfellowshipping and shunning.

  by current i mean since 1999.. sorry, but i have to put a bit of my history to clarify my situation.. i was a born-in who was baptized in 1983. got married to a sister in 1984. then the kids came.

  by the mid-1990s my wife and i had become increasingly irregular, so that by 1999 we were both inactive and only went to the memorial and conventions.. in 1999 i committed adultery, confessed to the elders, and had a judicial committee.

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  jamiebowers

  So sorry for the loss of your mom. It sounds like your sister put her cult shield down on that phone call. It's a shame that it took your mother's passing for her to be able to do so.
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  Hello ~ New Here.

  by witnomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  although i haven't been a witness for over 20 years, it has taken me that long to finally feel brave enough to join another church (aka christendom) and begin researching my past beliefs.

  all this research has opened a few old wounds, but mostly liberated me from a lot of quilt.

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  jamiebowers

  Welcome to JWN! I was out for 13 years before I ever considered that the Watch Tower was full of it. And that was only because I saw Barbara Anderson and Bill Bowen on Dateline.
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  Are we completely sure Trans people don't just have a mental disorder?

  by Lore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i thought i was a pretty accepting person.

  sure i grew up in a bigoted cult who hates gay people.. now i'm an atheist who has no reason to care about anyones sexual prefferences.. .

  but i've watched inverviews of trans people.

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  jamiebowers

  I agree with LisBobeesa. Try to find the movie, "A Girl Like Me, The Gwen Araujo Story". You may be able to watch it here:

  http://www.1channel.ch/watch-4438-A-Girl-Like-Me-The-Gwen-Araujo-Story

  Transgenderism is well explained in this movie.