Good luck expat...I don't know if I could even sit through it without being physically
sick! I'll be thinking of you and we'll deal with your ranting when you get home...
hang in there!
Essie
my wife has just left for the memorial.. just before she went she asked me to come...this was the second year in a row that i declined.
i hated seeing her so sad, i almost agreed to go just to cheer her up but that would betray her in a very real sense.
to go to the memorial would be an admission in her eyes (and other jws) that i still believe deep down that it is the truth.
Good luck expat...I don't know if I could even sit through it without being physically
sick! I'll be thinking of you and we'll deal with your ranting when you get home...
hang in there!
Essie
my wife has just left for the memorial.. just before she went she asked me to come...this was the second year in a row that i declined.
i hated seeing her so sad, i almost agreed to go just to cheer her up but that would betray her in a very real sense.
to go to the memorial would be an admission in her eyes (and other jws) that i still believe deep down that it is the truth.
Hi Dmouse,
I myself am counting the hours until this day is over.
My family may have tried to call me, I don't know, I've been screening my calls and they
didn't leave any messages.
I'm hoping that they won't pull a dramatic last ditch effort to try to guilt me into letting my daughter
go. They may show up at the door near to the time of the event and say "Is she ready to go?"
at which point I'm planning on saying "Thank you but she's not going."
I am glad to see Thirdson and COMF around here today. Guys I just got done doing an hour
of yoga and meditation and I'm still so stressed out my muscles are twitching like mad. I'm
determined not to let this get me into another MS episode. Any wisdom that you have to offer
or just encouragement will be appreciated.
For the first time, this year I, like you, Dmouse considered going for my family's sake (See here for the details:
http://WTSurvivors.homestead.com/Attend.html)
but I can't mislead them that way. Especially my grandmother. I love her too much to give her false hope.
My thoughts are with you, Dmouse, and all the rest who are going through this.
Folks like you, COMF and Thirdson have always been such comfort and strength to me. Thanks for just being here, gentlemen.
Love you both!
*hugs all around*
Es
the journey by mary oliver.
one day you finally knew.
what you had to do, and began,.
Hi again Frenchy! Yes, I think we did meet at H2O originally. Thanks again for the convention
info, it'll help a lot!
*hugs*
Essie
hi guys, you have so supportive with asking about me, need some air words right now, leaving in ahour for emerg.
prayers laughs anything will do.
regards.....nojw ... forgive any misspelled words just to shaky to type.
I'm adding the words to one of my favorite songs by Sting. Justin sent me this cd
while we were hundreds of miles apart and this song brought me great comfort during my
trials...I hope it helps you just a little.
Love,
Essie
"When you're down
and they're counting,
When your secrets, all found out
When your troubles take
to mounting
When the map you have leads you to doubt
When there's no information
and the compass turns to nowhere
that you know well
Let your soul be your pilot
let your soul guide you,
he'll guide you well
When the doctors failed to heal you
when no medicine chest can make you well
when no counsel leads to comfort
when there are no more lies
they can tell
no more useless information
and the compass spins
between heaven and hell
let your soul be your pilot
let your soul guide you, he'll guide you well
And your eyes turn toward the window pane
to the lights upon the hill
the distance seems so strange to you now
and the dark room seems so still
Let your pain be my sorrow
Let your tears be my tears too
Let your courage be my model
That the north you find will be true
When there's no more useless information
and the compass turns to nowhere
that you know well
Let your soul be your pilot,
let your soul guide you,
Let your soul guide you
along your way."
~Sting
We're with you in spirit, nojw...
hi guys, you have so supportive with asking about me, need some air words right now, leaving in ahour for emerg.
prayers laughs anything will do.
regards.....nojw ... forgive any misspelled words just to shaky to type.
Oh Nojw...
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUG HUG HUG)))))))))))))))))))))))))
I wish I could go to the ER with you and hold your hand!!! Please know that I'll be there
with you in my heart and I'm sending all my hopes and wishes with you. I'm saying a prayer
that peace will find your heart and that you will feel the love of all of us here through our words,
even though they are only words on a screen because they are all that we can offer right now.
Please e mail me later and let me know how you're doing. If you feel comfortable, please send
me your e mail address as well so I can keep tabs on you. I'm sending this off now hoping you'll see it
before you leave, I'll add more on I just wanted you to see that my heart is with you...
love
Essie
district convention dates in it?
has it been published yet?.
i really need the date for the convention in a specific location.
Thanks Frenchy, will mail you right now...
*hugs*
Essie
district convention dates in it?
has it been published yet?.
i really need the date for the convention in a specific location.
District Convention dates in it? Has it been published yet?
I really need the date for the convention in a specific location. Please e mail me if
you can help and I'll tell you what city I need.
Thanks bunches,
Essie
a person over at wol (retcon) is apparently very indignant about ibm supplying the nazis with equipment for the administration of some of the concentration camps in nazi germany.
this equipment was used to classify the prisoners in the camps, and he mention that the ibm equipment helped kill between 700,000 and 1,2 million people.
he is of course appalled at the "corporate greed" shown by ibm.. he is also totally ignorant about watchtower society history and has never given much thought to what happens if the good news hes spreading should ever happen.. it must be very disturbing for brooklyn, which has been a very good customer for ibm during the years.
Sigh! Trying to deal with a cult and its members is just like dealing with a big adult with severe mental
illness.
Truer words were never spoken, Francoise...
Essie
i'm starting this thread because dedalus made such a good point in his post in the "what.
" thread.
i won't quote his whole post here, but here's the link:.
Hi Wendy,
I'm sorry to hear that alchohol has had such a devestating effect on your family. I am just
disgusted hearing what happened to your brother. :(
There is such denial about alchoholics in general in the Borg...especially young ones. I remember
that my parents used to argue about who was drinking so much of the alchohol in the house, blaming
each other, never stopping once to ask if one of the kids might be drinking it.
My second oldest sister started drinking at about 13, 14. She'd come home from school, watch
cartoons and unwind with a beer. Where the hell were my parents? Why didn't they figure it out?
Even after my oldest sister confronted my parents about the other sister drinking years later,
they claimed ignorance. Of course now, years later, they say that she was just 'determined to get
into trouble." They refuse to accept any responsbility, or to put blame where a large share of it
belongs, on the organization.
My sister has been sober for nearly three years now. She does not see my parents at all, has seen
them once in the past six years. Says that it's instrumental to her staying on the wagon, and I
believe her. I'm very proud of her for being able to give it up, it's been a struggle. I know that
she will always be recovering.
I hope that your sister will find it in herself to stop one day. It's devestating to have to stand
by, helplessly watching your siblings destroy themselves. I never thought my sister would live
to see thirty.
You know, I just had a strange memory. Of my parents giving me champagne mixed with soda
pop to 'celebrate' when my little brother, who was a premie, finally came home from the hospital.
I was seven.
When I asked my mom about it later she said, "We didn't
want you to be curious about alchohol, we figured we'd take the mystery away."
Good god, what were they thinking? What kind of insane reasoning is that?
Es
p.s. Jimmyjames, the answer to your question is yes. Check your e mail. :)
the journey by mary oliver.
one day you finally knew.
what you had to do, and began,.
Hi Introspection,
Welcome to the board, and thanks for sharing that great poem. Hope you'll find the
peace you're looking for and some support here to listen to that voice inside of you a
little more each day.
*hugs*
Esmeralda
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Don't Take Anything Personally
Don't Make Assumptions
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