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  "Upright" JW behaviour vs. "Worl...

  by Esmeralda in

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  i'm starting this thread because dedalus made such a good point in his post in the "what.

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  i won't quote his whole post here, but here's the link:.

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  Esmeralda

  Thank goodness I never fell into overdrinking and am now very proudly married to a "worldly" man who will not touch a drop of alcohol.

  I feel the same way, Rob! I drank very, very rarely during my first marriage, and I've never been
  drunk in my life. I remember the day I gave it up for good, though, even socially. One night, right
  before I decided to go through with my divorce, Mike and I were fighting and I couldn't stand it...
  and I actually opened the fridge and looked to see if there was enough alchohol in it to get me
  drunk. Suddenly, it hit me; alchoholism runs rampant in my family and that is something that
  I did not want to repeat. I poured every ounce of it in the house down the
  drain and have never touched a drink since. Haven't missed it either.

  My second husband, raised 'worldly' doesn't touch a drop either. He's tasted it but never
  cared for it, and living on a college campus totally turned him off to the idea of getting wasted
  (as most of the people he had to live with in dorms constantly were). We are proud
  to have an alchohol free household, by choice, because that's what works for us.

  I will never forget the smell of alchohol on the breath of my ex's dad, the P.O of the congregation
  we were in. It was a constant. Just the thought of it still makes me gag.

  Glad that you, like me, found a man who is a much better fit for you than before!

  *hugs*
  Essie

  The Four Agreements:
  Be Impeccable With Your Word
  Don't Take Anything Personally
  Don't Make Assumptions
  Always Do Your Best
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  If modern day JW could stone apostates would they?

  by nojw86 in

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  via "new light" of course.

  would they truly follow it as scriptual bashing of evil ones forsaking their god jehovah, all this old light changing into new light makes one go hmmm........regards nojw

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  Esmeralda

  You know, that wig doesn't look very good on you.. assuming that's your pic.

  ROFLMAO! Egad! How totally typical. Insulting my looks...there's a way to make your point
  and convince everyone that you're right and reasonable! *lol* Whether or not I have hair
  down to my ankles or am as bald as Daddy Warbucks has not one thing to do with
  my opinions. But you know that.

  If you were trying to upset me or hurt my feelings, sorry. I'm not buying. I earned my wings
  on H2O, and the insults that have been slung at me there in the past actually make your comment
  look like praise in comparison! Thanks for the laugh, Still. That was a good one.

  Sincere thanks to Mommy and Englishman for taking up for me...I appreciate your kindness :) Believe me,
  there isn't anything this dude can say about my hair that my JW mother and grandmother
  haven't already said in triplicate *LOL* Love you two! :)

  Now where did I put my wigstand...time to take this thing off! *LOL* ;)

  ~Essie

  The Four Agreements:
  Be Impeccable With Your Word
  Don't Take Anything Personally
  Don't Make Assumptions
  Always Do Your Best
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  If modern day JW could stone apostates would they?

  by nojw86 in

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  via "new light" of course.

  would they truly follow it as scriptual bashing of evil ones forsaking their god jehovah, all this old light changing into new light makes one go hmmm........regards nojw

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  Esmeralda

  Hi there 86 :)

  After reading this posted to one of my threads:

  And you're perfectly happy with calling God a liar. Nice going Essie. You're on thin ice.

  READ THAT BIBLE for once.

  -StiLLinTruth

  I have no doubt that some JW's would be ready to not only throw those stones, but get
  them out of the quarry too with their own bare hands *lol*

  Essie

  p.s. Is there no way to block certain posters on this message board in your
  preferences so you see them? Just curious...

  The Four Agreements:
  Be Impeccable With Your Word
  Don't Take Anything Personally
  Don't Make Assumptions
  Always Do Your Best
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  Dress, Grooming, freedom...

  by Esmeralda in

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  i was just sitting here thinking about the restorative yoga poses that i'll be doing later to .

  help with my stiff muscles, and realized what a joy it is that i have the freedom to do them now.. if i was still a jw, i wouldn't.. i'm not an extreme person.

  but i do enjoy the immense freedom that i have now when it comes.

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  Esmeralda

  The simple things?

  Falling asleep in the arms of the man I love, something I never take for granted because
  of all we had to go through to get here.
  Being a "mommy sandwhich" which is what Justin and Leah call it when they both hug me at
  the same time and each kiss one of my cheeks. That really makes a person feel loved, let me
  tell you! Watching my child's eyes light up at the sight of holiday trimmings and birthday presents.
  Helping others when I can.
  Lighting a scented candle and listening to music I really love,
  writing, and reading as my eyes permit
  painting now and again, singing, especially when no one else is home and I can
  blow the dust out of the old windpipes,
  silly things, like watching the Daily show on Comedy Central and reruns of Mystery
  Science Theater 3000 on the weekend.
  A really good cup of tea...restorative yoga...I could go on and on. Mostly, it's just
  the freedom of living comfortably in my own skin...being able to think my own thoughts,
  that is a gift that keeps on giving.

  Sheesh, I'm rambling tonight. Gonna have to log off till tomorrow. *lol*

  Just keep looking until you find something that sparks your joy, R. It's out there. You've
  been surpressed a long time...it takes awhile to find your feet again.

  Keep searching!
  Essie
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  Poor JW children again (touching a sore tooth)

  by Mommie Dark in

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  i've been reading the thread about children and brooding over the whole issue of kids-n-cults for a couple of days now.

  yesterday i had to outwait a group of immovable amish youth blocking the doorway out of the local grocery store(to many local amish, 'english' are generally invisible unless they want to sell us something.

  ), and they got mixed into the brain stew with the jw kids and the recent moral self-righteousness of certain jw posters here.

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  Esmeralda

  Dedalus...

  i'm speechless :( not an easy thing to do to me...

  I have heard bad...what was done to you is unthinkable to me.

  My father whacked me upside the head a bit...mom with her brushes and spoons, but
  nothing like what you suffered. I'm so sorry that happened to you.

  I can tell you one thing, though. Reading this quote made me so proud of you:
  

  I will never slap, hit, or spank my kids. The Bible be damned.

  That's a promise that you can keep. The cycle does not have to repeat, and as determined
  as you are, I'm sure it won't.

  My daughter is five and I have never, nor will I ever, lay a hand on her. Neither will anyone else, as long as I'm drawing breath.

  We can all give better than we got...I used to say I learned exactly now not to parent,
  thanks to mom and dad.

  *big hugs*

  your sis,
  Essie
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  Dress, Grooming, freedom...

  by Esmeralda in

  1. jw
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  i was just sitting here thinking about the restorative yoga poses that i'll be doing later to .

  help with my stiff muscles, and realized what a joy it is that i have the freedom to do them now.. if i was still a jw, i wouldn't.. i'm not an extreme person.

  but i do enjoy the immense freedom that i have now when it comes.

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  Esmeralda

  btw, a friend lent me the book you quote from "The Four Agreements." I just couldn't get into it. The metaphysical coma continues.Has the book helped you?

  Hi R,

  Yes, it has helped me immensely. If you can get past the "smoke
  and mirrors" part at the beginning, ponder on the metephors a bit and dive right into the agreements themselves, that might
  help you. But not everyone likes the same cup of tea, that book might not be for you.

  I can't stress enough how great I think Life Strategies by Dr. Phil McGraw is. I think that it
  could benefit anyone who has ever been a JW, or effected by them. He's all about getting
  real and making your life go in the direction that you want: helping you figure out what you want
  too if you don't know that already.

  I hope that the 'coma' won't last long. You just have to keep looking until you find something
  that suits your taste to help awaken you. I wish you the best, its not easy!!!

  *hugs*
  Es
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  What did you do?

  by StiLLinTruth in

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  to all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.

  come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.

  the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?

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  Esmeralda

  As for me and my household, we will continue to help people learn what makes them happy in life and
  assist them in accomplishing this.

  I love that, Joel. That is exactly how I feel. In fact I said in my first reply to this thread that
  I'm glad that StillIn is happy with his religion. Like you, I don't try to change the minds of
  people who are JW's and happy with it. No point. If its 'right' for them, then there will be no
  changing their mind anyway.

  Everyone is different and that is my biggest beef with JW's: they want
  you to all be the same person...

  thanks Joel for another great post.

  *hugs*
  Es

  The Four Agreements:
  Be Impeccable With Your Word
  Don't Take Anything Personally
  Don't Make Assumptions
  Always Do Your Best
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  Dress, Grooming, freedom...

  by Esmeralda in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just sitting here thinking about the restorative yoga poses that i'll be doing later to .

  help with my stiff muscles, and realized what a joy it is that i have the freedom to do them now.. if i was still a jw, i wouldn't.. i'm not an extreme person.

  but i do enjoy the immense freedom that i have now when it comes.

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  Esmeralda

  nojw...

  Heck I even go to the YMCA for cancer support for myself,where was that in the borg,

  Cancer support?! I hope that you're okay? I'm concerned!

  As far as support groups go...I know that both my sisters, one JW, one not, go to Alanon.
  I remember how going to AA or any 12 step used to be squashed because they considered
  it a religion...does anybody know when the position changed on that? Just curious.

  *hugs*
  Essie

  The Four Agreements:
  Be Impeccable With Your Word
  Don't Take Anything Personally
  Don't Make Assumptions
  Always Do Your Best
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  Poor JW children again (touching a sore tooth)

  by Mommie Dark in

  1. jw
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  i've been reading the thread about children and brooding over the whole issue of kids-n-cults for a couple of days now.

  yesterday i had to outwait a group of immovable amish youth blocking the doorway out of the local grocery store(to many local amish, 'english' are generally invisible unless they want to sell us something.

  ), and they got mixed into the brain stew with the jw kids and the recent moral self-righteousness of certain jw posters here.

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  Esmeralda

  Geez. Why don't they get out the Bible Stories book and show the picture of Abraham about
  to sacrifice Issac?

  If anyone did that today, saying that God told them to kill their son, you know what they'd get.

  And my family clucks their tongue and says I'm wrong because
  I refuse to submit to my ex indoctrinating my five year old daughter.

  *hug* Momma D...I share your outrage and frustration.

  My mom liked wooden spoons too. and hairbrushes. The big plastic Avon ones with wide
  handles and clear bristles...

  ah...memories.

  Essie

  The Four Agreements:
  Be Impeccable With Your Word
  Don't Take Anything Personally
  Don't Make Assumptions
  Always Do Your Best
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  What did you do?

  by StiLLinTruth in

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  to all those who have in some way left the organization (be it disfellowshipping, disassociating, dis-whatever):.

  come now, i know the amount of people who "realized that wt doctrine was in serious error" and politely handed in their letter of resignation has to be very small.

  the level of bitterness and hostility towards the closest-to-what's-biblical organization has to develop some other way.. what did you do?

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  Esmeralda

  Forgot to add to that post...Luvsdubs...your post has my jaw hanging open.

  Thanks for taking the time to put all that up here. People need to know this stuff goes on...
  they have this sugar frosted view of the organization...

  Thanks!
  Es

  The Four Agreements:
  Be Impeccable With Your Word
  Don't Take Anything Personally
  Don't Make Assumptions
  Always Do Your Best