Posts by Georgiegirl

Thank you for posting this! I hadn't heard of her before. I'm in the process of writing an essay for a scholarship for college (now THERE'S something we should all start - a scholarship fund for ex-JWs) and there are some things in here I would love to use!

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"We NEVER PROPHESIED about 1975"

by Honesty in

2:24 through 5:12 of the following video says they did:.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiezx74p5ck&feature=related.

Georgiegirl

And that was one of the parts of CofC that upset me the most...I remember our congregation doing the letter-writing campaign to the government in Malawi and to find out that it could have all been prevented? A VOTE? A FREAKING VOTE?

Ok. Seriously. I need to log off now and regroup. Wow. Talk about triggering.

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"We NEVER PROPHESIED about 1975"

by Honesty in

2:24 through 5:12 of the following video says they did:.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiezx74p5ck&feature=related.

Georgiegirl

Catbert - But most scary was all the talks about the torture I would undergo to test my faith.
A CO described the human bodies defense mechanism of going into shock when it could take no
more pain. He even described tortures that may be used and the tortures that were being used
on JW's in Africa, Malawi. Spokes from bicycle wheels jammed into the calves of men who were then made
to walk in pain. From the stage these things were described. Rape and torture spoken of from the stage.
I was not looking forward to this at all!

I am sitting here crying. I thought I was the only one who heard this. I would have been - 4 or 5 years old. For years I would think about the men and be terrified. I actually had tricked myself into believing that maybe I had made that up because I was so young. Thank you for validating that memory.

WTF WERE THEY THINKING? HOW MANY KIDS HAVE GROWN UP WITH THIS KIND OF S*&T IN THEIR HEADS?

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Witness in-laws destroyed my marriage

by James_Slash in

i shall give you a little of information about myself.. i am 28 and from the uk.

i was baptised as a jw (big mistake) in 1996. i married a 'sister' in 2004 and had a child with her in may 2006.. however, things have turned really sour.. last year, my now ex-wife walked out of our home with support from the police, social workers and domestic violence workers.

by chance i returned from work one day to discover her family (her grandmother in particular) perched outside the local police station.

Georgiegirl

Just out of curiosity, if her accusations were in writing and they were false, wouldn't that be malicious slander/libel and therefore subject to a judicial committee? If you're not DF'd (need to go back and re-read) I sure would consider pursuing it.

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Newbies - How are you Benefiting from the Supportive Discussion on JWD ?

by flipper in

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so - i thought i'd put this question out there for the newbies here.

how are you benefiting from the supportive discussion you are partaking in here on jwd ?

do you see a different sense of freedom of speech which you can partake in - as opposed to being under " information control " as a jehovah's witness and only being allowed to talk about subjects that are previously arranged for you to discuss ?

Georgiegirl

Honestly? Completely mixed. I don't participate in alot because I can't stand the way so many posts turn into personal attacks because posters disagree. If you want to disagree, fine, but why does that make your point the only option? To fade or not to fade, to reminisce or not to reminisce, to publicly try to make a scene at an assembly or a memorial or not too - many times it ends up with people being unkind because they disagree. Gee, shades of the organization, huh?

The threads that are most helpful are the ones that are doctrinal and non-emotional. It seems that many of the others disintegrate into anger, name calling, and people who will fight to the bitter end just for the sake of fighting. I can't stand that. For those who truly need help and are hurting, JWD can be a scary place to be. I've lurked for almost a year but you can see my number of posts is very low because frankly, it's just not usually worth it. I've been thrilled to see some posters who are reasonable and point out that while the organization and those who are in charge of it have caused incredible harm, the majority of those in it are simply misled. That's just sad...it's not a reason for us to call them names and condemn them as a group. The recent thread on suicide, for example - there is a poster on it who very reasonably and accurately points out the facts about the number of suicides; people aren't jumping out of windows in droves. (And yes, I am INTIMATELY familiar with someone who has committed suicide). Or the posts about a grand conspiracy in the artwork. All refuted - yet reasonably and kindly. Very refreshing.

The thread about some of the ex-Bethelites re-connecting started to turn ugly and frankly, it made me sick to my stomach. I was very impressed and appreciative of the kindness in how they handled the anger and personal attacks by some of the posters. I don't know what I believe anymore (seems to be common among ex-JWs) but my first reaction was that their responses were truly Christian. Yes, express hurt. Yes, express pain - but why does it turn into personal attacks? Why?

I know there are posters who have been hurt. I have been hurt, very much, and much more than I will ever choose to share on a public forum. I do believe the best revenge is in living well, and I choose not to dwell in anger. I choose not to make my life story about fighting and anger and hatred. I think that's probably the best advertisement for any questioning JWs who might happen on this board to STAY in the organization - when they see the anger and the name calling and the foul language. It just perpetuates the "apostates are evil" message they are given.

Because we CAN express ourselves freely now - that is a gift that should be used well and with care and respect and reasonableness. (and this is the longest post I have ever or probably will ever write on JWD!)

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

by Dogpatch in

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having problem pasting this...

Georgiegirl

I knew his father, then. I believe he ended up on the Bethel Service Committee (can't remember if that is the right term?) in El Salvador w/ D. Piccone. Lots of money.

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Warren Schroeder from Bethel on Freddy, Kline and the apostate books!

by Dogpatch in

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having problem pasting this...

Georgiegirl

Tom C -

Was Balthasar Perla from El Salvador by any chance?