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  Who here has just let the JW stuff go?. I NEED HELP GUYS!!!!!!!.................

  by oompa in

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  ....i am so frikkin obsessed about the jw lies and my newfound truths about them, and it is prob driving me crazy or causing depression.....if i wake up in the middle of the night, i never get back to sleep as my mind starts racing about jw crap and how it affects my marriage, and then how can i make this marriage work with her such a hardcore dub....i told my wife i now realize i am an abusive husband.....i must stop talking to her about the real truth!!

  !..........it is killing her inside and we have had soooo many bad discussions that turn into arguments......on top of that she says she is now closer to jah and the org than at any other time in her life, that now that she has no positive direction from me, she relies totally on jehovah and prays to him more than ever..... we talked about separation, and that i was going to lose her over our religious differences........i feel so sorry for what i have put her through, and i know that if i can not really shut up with my ohsohelpful comments of truths about this truth she will leave me due to "spiritual endangerment".......and she said she is damm close to that happening.....i told her i knew it to and would so hate to lose her due to our religious differences.

  at my recent shepherding call, they said to try and stop focusing on the negatives i have found in jw, and focus on the good things...and that is not a bad idea even if i never go back to meetings....there are good things about dubs....the efforts at ending racism and at least for me, some really good lifelong friends.......even their hope for the future was pretty good to me, even though it is a bunch of crap and i no longer believe the bible is gods word or inspired.....it does have some good suggestions for a happy life and ideas as to how to treat others........but so do just about every holy book of other faiths........ i had plans to start going to some meetings with my wife, but today, after a sleepless night i told her i just dont think i can do it, and just as she strongly believes it is the truth, i do not, and that i think the guys on the gb are not led by holy spirit cause if she will read the proclaimers book, she will see we have never gotten a single bible inerpretation of prophecy correct.......so she says "so what is there?

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  oompa...

  i feel for you... I am not married...I can only imagine what would have happened if I had married that JW sister from overseas back in 06.... and I was already lurking here... I would have stuck it out in the troof for her because I truly loved her..... but I would have been miserable over the religion thing .... I loved her enough to do it..but I suspect it would have killed me emotionally. The only thing we really had in common was being dubs. She broke it off because of depression and bipolar on her part... she did me a favor in retrospect.

  as to your situation... financial and legal considerations aside.... what percentage of your "commonality" or "compatibility" is JW-related and what percentage is NOT JW-related? If the main thing between you is dub, your cover has been blown and you will never be able to pull it off. She will know it, you will know it, and the elders already know it and will keep you under a microscope as a potential apostate..the pressure alone is not worth it. I know..I was an elder that sat on a JC for an accused apostate.... I watched the elders hound him until he finally just admitted it...as much as I tried to deflect the pressure....

  If you have a lot more in common with your wife than Dubville, then sit down, let her know that you will never threaten her faith, you will support her by not interfering. As French philosopher Voltaire once said: "I do not agree with a thing you say [or believe ..ie, JW doctrine], but will defend to the death your right to say [or believe] it."

  Let your wife know how much you love her and dont want to lose her. Tell her you want to build on the things you do share in common.... and then as Lady Lee said... stop talking to them [about JW doctrine]. You have planted the seeds...if your wife ever wakes up, she will remember that..and she will remember that you didnt try to drag her out....but respected her right to move in her own way in her own time... you didnt wake up and leave overnight...she wont either...

  If you can stop talking about JW stuff, and she is agreeable to it, you have something to build your marriage on.

  If you cannot stop talking (in her mind bashing) about JW stuff with your wife... starting right now, then your marriage is doomed and it's time to cut your losses now. Sometimes you should do what has been encouraged in the past here....become an ex-EX JW.... being on this forum helps to vent...but also can trap you in the whole "ex-JW" thing.... Out of the frying pan and into the fire...

  OK...I am done ranting... hope it makes sense... I wish you well oompa whatever the outcome.

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  local cong to handle all pioneer additions and deletions

  by seeking help in

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  read in letter.

  no longer using the branch for permission.. all done locally... am i the only one who heard that?.

  old light?

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  Less paperwork...plain and simple.

  And if you have a BOE being jerks about not letting someone have this "privilege," then it can always be appealed to the CO and then Service.

  But why anyone would want to beg to pioneer is beyond me.

  Snakes () ...a former pioneer.
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  WTF? Anyone else get this?

  by AWAKE&WATCHING in

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  got this in a pm about three days ago so sorry if it's been discussed.

  from: scott williams., .

  country: ivory coast .

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  **waves at A&W**

  yeah...been discussed...there were 2 going around here...with open registration also comes that garbage.... Simon already blocked at least 2 I think

  Snakes ()
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  Potential apostafest

  by JimmyPage in

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  i've noticed a lot of us live pretty close to each other and could possibly get together.

  specifically, i'm talking purple sofa, crazy blonde deb, sacolton, and john doe.

  there are likely others in our area too, maybe you guys know who.

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  SnakesInTheTower

  I wanted to try to get one together in the St. Louis, MO area...didnt get many hits..

  no time or money to go too far right now..

  Snakes ()
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  Congregation politics are so bitter precisely because the stakes are so low

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

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  though i've never been an elder (thank god), i was raised by one and know several.

  it has been my observation that there is a tremendous amount of politics on bodies of elders.

  this is probably not a news flash to most of you.. there is a saying that "academic politics are so bitter because the stakes are so low.

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  OK..that is cool.... I saved it to my computer... I like the sharks.... we could add the Brooklyn skyline or the WT logo (bible and tower)...

  Snakes ()
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  I got a memorial invite today!!! whoo hoo!!!

  by Finally-Free in

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  i found it in my mailbox along with the rest of the junk mail.. i took a set of magazines from a couple of jw women last may thinking i could anti-witness to them when they did a return visit on me.

  i was even nice to them, but they never came back.

  so now i'm wondering if this memorial invitation was their "return visit" or if they're putting them in everyone's mailbox in an effort to boost their holy statistics by inviting everyone in their "territory".. w.

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  In the US, it is illegal to put anything in a mailbox without proper postage... I think the fine is $450. Don't know what the law is in Canada..

  I would throw them under the bus...not because I care about following the rules..just to cause WTBTS trouble.

  No one sends me an invitation... thankfully....but hey, 17 days to go, right?

  Snakes ()
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  Congregation politics are so bitter precisely because the stakes are so low

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

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  though i've never been an elder (thank god), i was raised by one and know several.

  it has been my observation that there is a tremendous amount of politics on bodies of elders.

  this is probably not a news flash to most of you.. there is a saying that "academic politics are so bitter because the stakes are so low.

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  SnakesInTheTower

  come on V...this is something you could do... what are you working on these days?

  Snakes ()
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  Congregation politics are so bitter precisely because the stakes are so low

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

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  though i've never been an elder (thank god), i was raised by one and know several.

  it has been my observation that there is a tremendous amount of politics on bodies of elders.

  this is probably not a news flash to most of you.. there is a saying that "academic politics are so bitter because the stakes are so low.

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  hey, I wonder if some of our clever graphics people on the forum could combine the Survivor logo and change the location to "Kingdom Hall" or "Patterson, NY", "Walkill, NY", or "Brooklyn, NY".,...add that crazy theme song and all.... that would be fun.. put it up on You Tube...

  I have no software nor talent for that...

  Snakes ()
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  Congregation politics are so bitter precisely because the stakes are so low

  by Olin Moyles Ghost in

  1. jw
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  though i've never been an elder (thank god), i was raised by one and know several.

  it has been my observation that there is a tremendous amount of politics on bodies of elders.

  this is probably not a news flash to most of you.. there is a saying that "academic politics are so bitter because the stakes are so low.

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  omghost.... absolutely true....

  I think I mentioned this at least once before...

  My favorite show on TV is Survivor... I have seen nearly every episode.. I am not fanatical and I dont remember the details, but I like watching it at the time it is on. In 2002 our meetings were on Thursday night. When I was a new elder, I used to take pleasure in telling the PO that I liked Survivor...his first question was not "why?" ...but "how can you watch that, it's on a meeting night." (hello....that's what god created VCRs for...duh)....

  His second question was..."so....why do you like that show so much?"

  With a straight face..... I replied.... "because it reminds me so much of congregation politics." And walked away...

  Probably was the beginning of the end for ol Elder Snakes...only took another 5 years to catch up with me...lol

  Snakes ()

  ah yes...here is the link from almost a year ago..my how time flies: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/135174/1/TV-Show-Survivor-is-like-the-average-congregation-how
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  How long does reinstatement take?!? Question for a elder or someone thats been in this situation

  by N-kiki in

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  quirky1:

  How come I can't read N-kiki's posts?

  I think N-kiki (or a mod) wisely realized the error of posting details on the open part of the forum and deleted it. I just checked....Fortunately, the poster deleted it before google bots could cache it.. this thread appears but not his/her post.

  We hope n-kiki stays around... and asks questions... even if by PM (private message)...and posts on the private section...google does not capture those

  Snakes ()