I hope this is true:
besty:
He is OK and will re-emerge bigger and bolder than before.
Snakes (Rich )
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Whatever happened to the poster named V?
by SnakesInTheTower ini get a 403 message for the watchtower comments web site... the youtube channel hasnt been visited by v in 8 months and it was april when v was here last?.
anyone know what ever became of v?
thanks for the update....pm me if you would rather not post on the public board.... snakes (rich .
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New BOE letter on inactive ones
by JWFreak inagain..please do not ask for a pdf scan as the only copies i have are the interbranch electronic copies from the us branch to our local branch.. .
november 3, 2009 .
to all bodies of elders .
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choosing life:
I guess it is time to screen calls and ignore unwelcome visits.
nah...{Death Valley} Congo elders are too lazy... you will be "lucky" to get an invite to the Memorial Disrespect Jesus Celebration WT Infomercial.....
I left {Death Valley} congo in Dec 06 for another circuit and state entirely.... once the elders in the new congo got the letter stating I was not eligible to be reappointed an elder (or even MS) because of being removed (and disqualified for 3 years)...the new congo elders suddenly lost interest in my personal well being. My last visit to the 9th Circle of Hell (aka Kingdom Hell) was in Sept 07..I have not heard from them or {DV} congo since.
I did receive a visit from 2 elders (including the COBOE) in the town I live in awhile back... back on November 1, 2009...so that was before the date of that letter....but maybe the CO gave them a heads up on it? Haven't heard from them either...
..so much for their so-called "Christian" love....
Snakes (Rich )
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Life On Hold: The CO Visit Week
by sacolton indid anyone have to cancel a vacation trip because it was on co visit week?
i still don't get why the co visit was as if god himself was in town.
is it kinda like if the pope were to visit with catholics?.
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I knew an elder/regular SuperPiosneer (also service overseer) that had a cruise or some other thing planned months in advance....CO visit announced.... super idiot cancelled his vacation...I think it cost him and his wife several hundred dollars in deposit money.
stupid is as stupid does....
..I just heard recently that Bro. SuperPiosneer quit regular pioneering after 2 decades.... what...your telephone biz is more important than the field service?...
...or is it that your conscience finally got to you for looking at porn all those years and getting let off the hook?...oh well...you are still an elder...
I remember hating CO week.... all that ass kissing... The last CO (before I left)...I would take him and his wife out to lunch at Applebees....never a thank you note one.
Snakes (Rich )
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An email from my dad
by TheSilence ini received this email from my dad today.
i have not clicked on the link or responded, nor do i intend to.
i accept that i am not going to change his mind, and i know he is not going to change mine, so i choose not to participate in debate with him in an effort to retain what little relationship i have with him.
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jackie...
we both have parents that are deeply ingrained in the Borg....engaging them in discussion is futile.....
...good for you for not bothering with responding.... I quit responding to my mom's forwarded emails sometime ago....
...I did send her the chart of the 6 variations of the generation issue per WT sources...she has not responded...no surprise...but her phone calls have taken a sharp decrease in frequency and duration since then....
Snakes (Rich )
(toni and mr h say hello)
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No work but volunteer at the hall?
by Champion inso my brother who is in construction(home improvement) has no work.
my "elder" dad says he and a few other "brothers" were working on the kingdumb hall.
i said that's good at least they are making a little money.
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I knew a pioneer elder who had several kids...wife didnt work (or did janitorial PT..but had health problems, so very PT)...he did some janitorial and drove for Domino's....
...so far so good.....
..except they were taking money from welfare.,....because they had all these kids, they could. Now, he was quite capable of working hard...had at one time ..... but instead...moved his family from one rural town to another in Illinois.... pioneering where the "need was great".....
,....that I have a problem with. I have no issue with someone collecting government payments....if they deserve them...not because they choose to put themselves,...and worse...their families...into financial danger all because they want to serve Jehovah a Book Publishing Corporation
I almost did it...after MTS...the Society wanted me to live in the middle of nowhere Kansas..... no job...no benefits...nothing.... I declined...but caused myself career problems anyway by taking a job 75 miles each way to assist a congregation...that lasted 4 months...then I gave up MTS assignments and started looking for real jobs again....
The Society took advantage of literally thousands of my hours doing manual labor at quick builds and the local assembly hall....when I should have been going back to school and getting a real job...and investing in my retirement...instead...I have nothing in savings....no retirement...and dont expect social security to be there when I need it...
thank you Watchtower....dumb ass mo' fo's.
Snakes (Rich )
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April KM Question Box
by JWFreak in[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:trackmoves /> <w:trackformatting /> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:donotpromoteqf /> <w:lidthemeother>en-gb</w:lidthemeother> <w:lidthemeasian>x-none</w:lidthemeasian> <w:lidthemecomplexscript>x-none</w:lidthemecomplexscript> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> <w:splitpgbreakandparamark /> <w:dontvertaligncellwithsp /> <w:dontbreakconstrainedforcedtables /> <w:dontvertalignintxbx /> <w:word11kerningpairs /> <w:cachedcolbalance /> </w:compatibility> <w:browserlevel>microsoftinternetexplorer4</w:browserlevel> <m:mathpr> <m:mathfont m:val="cambria math" /> <m:brkbin m:val="before" /> <m:brkbinsub m:val="--" /> <m:smallfrac m:val="off" /> <m:dispdef /> <m:lmargin m:val="0" /> <m:rmargin m:val="0" /> <m:defjc m:val="centergroup" /> <m:wrapindent m:val="1440" /> <m:intlim m:val="subsup" /> <m:narylim m:val="undovr" /> </m:mathpr></w:worddocument> </xml><!
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2010 Convention Theme
by garlic81 inthe theme for the 2010 district convention of jehovah's witnesses is "remain close to jehovah".
this can be verified by looking at the printed edition of the march 1, 2010 watchtower..
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"Remain Close to Jehovah... and you too will See That the Smell of Decay of the Governing Body Lingers." -- 1 Bullsh*t 4:11
SnakesInTheTower (of the "not falling for that crap again" Sheep Class...Rich)
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JW mom has limited contact with me these days
by SnakesInTheTower inmy mom has been a jw since 1970. my dad, who died in 1994, became a dub in 1971. i have told parts of that story elsewhere on the board.. my mom remarried a couple of years later to a non-jw.
my stepfather and i get along very well, despite his background (cussin', former hell's angel, former navy seal, smoker)...generally quite rough..but underneath a decent guy.. i just called down to my mom's today...about 11am... stepdad answers.... where is my mom?
he says: "out doing her thing..." i say: "oh, you mean door knocking?
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d:
Maybe you should tell your Mom you regret getting baptised because you are shunned and your brothers are not
that is a good idea...I do regret it...and it seems to me one of my parents thought that at age (almost) 17, I was still too young/immature to make the decision...but didnt stop me....
cl:
Maybe when she finally meets your fiance and sees how happy she makes you, she will be happy for you.
mom has talked to toni once on the phone briefly and they have the same warped sense of humor. We are hoping to get together with family easter weekend down in georgia....I hope my mom is good to her...I think she will be...but the dub factor is always an unknown. Toni and hunter and I are staying in a hotel when we go down.... both because hunter wants to play in a pool...and toni and I want to sleep in the same bed without hurting mom's feelings any more than they already will be.
mimi:
And tell Toni life is too short to worry about other people's issues. Even if your mom blames her in some way, you both know the truth. And you had left before you and Toni got together.
i know...I tell her this all the time... the way she grew up and the way her adult life has been up until now... insecurity ...I thought I was insecure.... I think it is why we understand each other so well..... and why we are good for each other...we both know how much we need reassurance and give it to each other generously.
anyone who has seen me and toni together know how much we love each other... we are hoping to get married in May.... I am taking her out to dinner Saturday night....I need to find some flowers...orchids this time...not roses...she loves orchids...(but says dont spend money on flowers....riiiiiighhhht...lol).... dont know if we are going to a movie or to listen to music....play it by ear...
Snakes (Rich )
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How to deal with Boss contradictions.
by Elsewhere in1. my boss tells me to take more initiative and solve problems on my own so i don't have to bother him so much.. i take the effort to track down information that will help solve a certain problem.
boss fusses wanting to know why i tracked down the information without notifying him.
i contact someone who will have access to information to solve another problem.boss fusses wanting to know why i contacted that person without his knowledge.
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I had that happen when I worked in billing for a major water utility....
I was a billing specialist..dealing with complex water billing issues (California has some of the nuttiest conservation rate schedules in the country).....and there was a rate change.... causing exception flags to appear on nearly every one of the hundreds of bills generated each day...meaning someone had to manually go in, look at the bill to make sure it was good, then override the flag...
...I knew what the problem was...the rate change caused all of the bills to fall outside of the parameters...the parameters needed changed...no big deal, right? Went to the team lead...she says nothing can be done...just do your job....go through them one by one ....(meanwhile, dozens....then hundreds...of billing adjustment requests from customers are piling up)...I go to her boss....she says it has to be submitted to IT as a job request...and that takes several days to weeks depending on priorities...
...sh*t.... so I get in touch with my contact out in california (they were 2 hours behind us)..... tell him what is going on...he asks me what I need.... he says...just a min...I will email the IT guy..... a few minutes later...I get a Lotus note saying the parameter has been changed...recalculate the batch...
...I go over to my team lead....tell her to recalc the batch...she says no...its not your batch...go back to your own work...... I reach over my coworkers shoulder....grab his computer mouse...click on the recalc button....pause.... bingo...exceptions drop from hundreds to less than a dozen.....coworker pleased...boss pissed.....lol
team lead (boss) is pissed...what did you do? I told her I got the parameters changed... she says when? a few minutes ago.... you cant do that....there are procedures.... yeah...meanwhile I need help with adjustments...not wasting time overriding false exceptions...
my boss's boss' boss was impressed with my initiative.... my boss was pissed because she didnt think of it ..... it was a matter of time before she figured out a way to get me out the door...lol
Ironically.....I could have had her job if I could have worked Thursday nights (I worked M-F afternoons except Thursday...you know why)....
...point is...there are idiots everywhere...
Snakes (Rich )
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JW mom has limited contact with me these days
by SnakesInTheTower inmy mom has been a jw since 1970. my dad, who died in 1994, became a dub in 1971. i have told parts of that story elsewhere on the board.. my mom remarried a couple of years later to a non-jw.
my stepfather and i get along very well, despite his background (cussin', former hell's angel, former navy seal, smoker)...generally quite rough..but underneath a decent guy.. i just called down to my mom's today...about 11am... stepdad answers.... where is my mom?
he says: "out doing her thing..." i say: "oh, you mean door knocking?
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My mom has been a JW since 1970. My dad, who died in 1994, became a dub in 1971. I have told parts of that story elsewhere on the board.
My mom remarried a couple of years later to a non-JW. My stepfather and I get along very well, despite his background (cussin', former Hell's Angel, former Navy Seal, smoker)...generally quite rough..but underneath a decent guy.
I just called down to my mom's today...about 11am... stepdad answers.... where is my mom? He says: "Out doing her thing..." I say: "Oh, you mean door knocking?" He says: "Yeah." I ask him how much she does that....he tells me 4 or 5 hours a day...4 or 5 days a week. Understand...she is not pioneering in any form whatsoever.... yet, she prefers to spend her retirement time driving around rural Alabama to spending it with her husband? Wasting time and gas...and right now, they don't have the money to waste... unlike when he had a good job and worked lots of OT... he is retired, pension and disability....she gets a small social security payment (because, foolishly, she took it at 62 instead of waiting).... and they have two mortgages to pay because the market tanks in South Florida....to the point my stepdad no longer has any equity in the house.... and they cant sell it.....
so my mom is burning up gas, wear and tear on the car, etc...in field circus.... my step dad resents it...he just says he does whatever he wants.... he knew she was a JW when they met...but I dont think he realized the implications of a JW with lots of free time on their hands combined with nothing else to do and a weird zeal for it....
.... so that is what my JW mom is doing with her time. I called her a week ago...... because she rarely calls me..... and I let her know my fiancee wants to talk to her soon...my fiancee is nervous about meeting my mom because of the whole JW thing...she is afraid my mom is going to blame her for turning her son (me) away from the witnesses.....
...and to be honest, despite my mom saying its not true.... I wonder. And she has yet to call and talk to my fiancee (other than saying hello over the speakerphone when I am talking)..... My mom and step dad have not met my fiancee....
I guess ....with all my rambling... I resent, as does my step dad.... my mom wasting so much time in door knocking and not enough time working on family relationships. She goes and sees my non JW brother (who lives 4 hours away)...and talks to my other non JW brother on the phone more .... but my step dad says she doesnt hold it against them for not being JWs because they were never baptized and I was....
....so she doesnt like me living with a girl without being married....and everything that entails.... she has said it would be an untenable situation if she still lived near me... but living 12 hours away...she can bury her head in the sand.
.....sigh...... I am just venting..... thanks for reading.... my dear fiancee should be home shortly....maybe we have an hour alone before getting the 8YO from school...
Snakes (Rich )