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  So they finally said it ....

  by 2014CountDown in

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  the sept 15, 2010 wt on page 23 states :.

  the anointed and their other sheep companions recognize that by following the lead of the modern-day governing body, they are in fact following their leader, christ.. what a pile of filth!!!!.

  the only capitalized letters are governing, body, leader, christ.

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  SnakesInTheTower

  WELCOME TO THE NEWBIES...

  This spiritual food is based onGod’s Word. Thus, WHAT IS TAUGHT IS NOT FROM MEN
  BUT FROM JEHOVAH.

  WT says the spiritual food is based on. Merriam-Webster's Online Dictionary (m-w.com) says that "to make, form, or serve as a base for."

  Hmmm... just like a foundation of a house serves as what the rest of the house sits on, but is not the entire house.

  So WT says that God's Word is the foundation for its doctrine...but it is NOT GOD'S WORD. WT doctrine is a derivitative (*) work of the Bible. Sadly it is so derivative that it barely resembles the Bible at all.

  I am so glad I am out of that cult. I cannot believe my mind and thinking process was co-opted by that crap for so long.

  Snakes (Rich )

  (*) derivative: "1a(1) the formation of a word from another word or base" (italics/underline mine).
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  Thanks to the J.W.s im soon to be homeless, living in tent!

  by outlander in

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  should have seen it coming.

  don't want to rehash my personal situation, anyone who's read my former posts will know it.

  anyone who cares can look them up and get the gist of the situation.

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  SnakesInTheTower

  Neither your sister or you should expect to see any of that money if Medicaid is going to be involved in paying for your mother's care. If your sister sells the cabin and then your mother goes into a nursing home supported by Medicaid, Medicaid will look to see if there have been any transfers/infusion of wealth (ie, the sale or transfer of real estate) to avoid that money going to pay for nursing home care. One cannot do that within I believe 2 years of entering a nursing home and applying for Medicaid to care fo her. Don't think your sister can pioneer and expect to live off of the proceeds, whether all or half....it all goes to the nursing home first.

  The mother of a friend of my fiancee's went into a nursing home. She had to sell the home first, use of those proceeds first, before Medicaid kicks in. So...family home sells first, $72,000 proceeds.... at $7,000 a month in the nursing home... money disappears like tree limbs in a grinder....via nursing home invoices.... she then is considered impoverished, becomes a ward of the state...voila... no proceeds from the sale of the home for the daughters.

  http://dch.georgia.gov/00/channel_title/0,2094,31446711_31945377,00.html is the link for eligibility in Georgia. Looks like asset limit is $2,000 and $24K per year in income for nursing home. If it is for aged, blind, disabled, it appears the income limit is next to nothing ($3,800/yr).

  So, as in the example above, she had to spend down her assets before Medicaid kicked in (this is Illinois, but the rules are similar elsewhere).

  It is a sucky system. As someone else posted, JWs are notoriously bad about retirement planning. As an ex-JW, I have about $2 in savings, enough to hold open the account and enough in checking and income coming in to pay monthly expenses. I literally am living paycheck to paycheck for the first time in 3 years. Anything happens to me, I have no long term care policy...no retirement, etc. Whatever social security disability pays... if it is there.

  Hope your situation works itself out.

  Snakes (Rich )

  PS.....Thanks Watchtower. I believed you.
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  Anybody know of Harley Brenneman, Circuit Overseer

  by Inkie in

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  in the san fernando valley area down just north of los angeles.

  he was the co in 1996. how's he doing and where's he at now?

  thanks..

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  SnakesInTheTower

  I knew him back in the mid 1980s... havent heard anything since..

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Has the WTS removed the 'offending' publications? Or just retired them due to time?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  2. beliefs

  i seem to recall the earlier versions of watchtower cd-rom containing books from the 50's and 60's [life everlasting in the freedom of the son's of god - babylon the great has fallen - etc].

  i have no cd predating 2001 now in my possession - and looked at that one today doing research, finding that virtually nothing pre-1970 is there [except the revised/altered 'truth' book].. is my memory faulty on this?

  could it be that they just 'retired' the older pubs innocently?

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  SnakesInTheTower

  Considering that National Geographic put its entire 120 years (1888-2008) on 6 DVDs..and that is digitized copies of each page including ads....an important history...and I am sure that over the years that magazine has had embarrasing errors.....yet they do not delete it from the DVD because of it.....

  certainly WT could put its entire collection on 1 or maybe 2 CD/DVDs..Publish one for the oldest stuff just one time and keep it available...and then the 2nd one could just be a newer CD that only has the more recent publications. As big as hard drives are, it could be downloaded to a hard drive with plenty of room left. (NG also has all of their stuff on a 160 GB hard drive..with room to spare I bet).

  But then that would be making it too easy to do real research on The Truth®.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Stopping in to say hello and share some good updates

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  i don't log on to jwn much anymore.

  you all are always in my thoughts though.

  i miss you.

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  SnakesInTheTower

  hey FHN... glad to see you still kicking around these parts... I still post here, not as much.... glad things are good for you..;lots changed here too

  .... you mentioned cartersville (presumably GA).... my brother worked in C'ville for awhile til his co. closed the office... he lives in acworth...we (my fiancee and I) were just down there a couple months ago... I hated the traffic, the high costs.... and people seem to be just a bit ...lets say not so warm to us n'thrnrs... lol

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Watchtower & Awake subscriptions?

  by Think About It in

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  seems like i read here that wt & a subscriptions were done away with.

  is that correct, and if so when and why?

  i can only imagine it would be a cost savings reason.

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  Blondie....I had forgotten all about that article...how weird in retrospect....

  stupid that you would have to discuss a subscription with the entire damn service committee.... and the interested person is referred to as "the case"...

  freaking cult control..

  Snakes (Rich )
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  The DVD published last year is excellent, IMO

  by possible-san in

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  the dvd published last year is excellent.

  (the wonder of creation reveal god's glory).

  but, in youtube, the dvd last year was entirely deleted by the watch tower society.. i wanna watch the new dvd.. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=62903523.

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  SnakesInTheTower

  I was checking to see if this was in "Jokes and Humor" section....apparently not.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Watchtower & Awake subscriptions?

  by Think About It in

  1. jw
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  seems like i read here that wt & a subscriptions were done away with.

  is that correct, and if so when and why?

  i can only imagine it would be a cost savings reason.

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  SnakesInTheTower

  TAI...

  That changed a long time ago not long after the "donation arrangement"™ was implemented. The publishers™ would still have a standing order at the magazine counter, but would include their personal copy with their service copies. Any remaining subscriptions were allowed to run their course. At the time I had a First Class mailing subscription that allowed me to get my personal copy of the WT several weeks ahead of the congo. I missed it then when it ran out.

  More recently, in the last month or so (I think the letter was 4/19/10) the whole arrangement was done away with and now the congregation has a standing order and the R&F just picks up the copies they need for the day/week from the magazine counter. I am sure the kool-aid edition of the WT (the "Study article" edition) is probably still ordered specifically...dunno.

  I am sooooo glad I dont deal with that anymore.

  Snakes (Rich)

  ps...(edited to add... first class came in white wrappers... regular subscriptions came in brown..and I thought about that too with the mailman wondering.... I knew a couple of them that read them on their lunch and then put the mag back in the wrapper...did the same with porn from their customers....LOL)
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  JW’s District Convention 2010 – Drawn Closer to Jehovah. My reflections…

  by onemore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  september will mark my first year out of the watch towers darkness (pun intended).

  i embarked on my full blown search for truth about the truth in april 2009, and by september of that same year i was convinced the organization was no different than any other religion; but i was wrong again.

  because if there were like any other christian denomination, such as the baptists, methodists, presbyterians, lutherans, etc...it would have been a lot easier to endure sitting in their meetings, listening to their rhetoric, and engaging in some of their activities.

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  SnakesInTheTower

  They tempo of the tune has changed, maybe the lyrics are a bit different... but it is the same song and dance since 1879.

  And the average R&F dub has no clue. Most witnesses do very little actual studying beyond the yellow highlighter and maybe looking up (or printing out from the CD) scriptures...and that only from the WT's own NWT.

  I used to study chronology as it related to the bible. Unfortunately for WTB&TS, et. al., I used secular sources from the library. As early as 1991 I was having trouble digesting the WT version. I once even said to another dub: "If the Society does not make an adjustment soon, they will be caught with their pants down." A nearby elderette, not involved in the conversation, involved herself and asked "Are you the FDS providing food at the proper time? We wait on Jehovah." My words back to her were basically that it was pure logic and math that made me say it. And I dropped it.

  By the time I went through MTS in 2002 and went through major sections of WT teachings on chronology, I knew I had been right and didnt know my way out. It only took another 5 years for me to leave. I went back and checked my postings here... 2007 was the last DC....so this will be the third year not going...and thank goodness for that. I dont think I could keep myself from laughing.

  I only wonder what my JW mother thinks about all of this doctrinal changes. She was one who claimed to study...but really only studied WT literature...a rather biased source of course. sigh.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  If You Still "Had" To Go To Meetings What "Disrespectful" Things Might You Do?

  by minimus in

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  i know some who go to meetings because they feel they have to because of family or other considerations.. imagine going to a meeting and having your iphone with you!.

  how would it look if you had a watchtower in your hands along with a tv guide?.

  think about going to a meeting with strong booze breath.. any other suggestions?

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  SnakesInTheTower

  lmao at minimus ...

  

  Snakes (Rich )