Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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FlyingHighNow's Nephew's shunning - tragic ending

by Incognito in

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flyinghighnow (heather) updated her thread last evening about her nephew's shunning treatment by his own mother.

this story has now taken a tragic turn and because heather had updated the original thread, it has been buried and has not gotten the recognition it deserves.. the third page of the original thread is here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/196991/3/my-lovely-jw-sister-just-said-this-to-her-oldest-son last evenings post is about half way down.. .

please provide heather some kindness and support that she needs at this time.. .

SnakesInTheTower

heather....

I am saddened and horrified. I cannot imagine what is going through your sister's mind now.

Our family went through this lesson 16 years ago. I know my JW dad treated my little brother, never baptized, badly. The last time they were together (my brother was a teenager), they had a heated argument (about what, the fog of time has wiped out) dad threw him off the porch step and dislocated his shoulder. That weekend, my dad went on vacation and died of heart failure. That was their last words and actions. My little brother lives with this to this day. Fu*ked him up more than he already was. My JW mom and dad argued (about my brother) the night before he died...in the morning dad was dead. Screwed up my JW mom too. My JW dad was an ass to his family and was judgmental as hell...much like your sister.

I use this lesson with my 9yo (soon to be) step son. I tell him and his mom (never JWs) never let the last words we say to each other before going to sleep or parting ways to go to school or work be harsh. Always let them be "I love you." Unconditionally. We have been together a little over a year. It is words the three of us live by.

I hope your sister learns from this harsh life lesson and that your nephew did not die in vain.

(((heather))) RIP DAVID....

Snakes (Rich )

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Got a visit from door-to-door JW's!

by donuthole in

today while i was home for a quick lunch break i got a knock at the door.

i opened the door and was surprised to see two elderly jehovah's witnesses women.

i haven't been called on since i've been out for four years, so this was a bit of surprise.

SnakesInTheTower

StoneWall:

Here's a situation where they find someone wanting to talk to them and they run. I love it. hahaha

So few people at the door actually stop and listen to JWs anymore that when one finally does, a JW does not know how to handle it. All we were really ever taught on a regular basis was those worthless "Conversation Stopper" things in the UNReasoning book. I always thought that those were a bit condescending or outright offensive (or just dumb...ie; "May I ask why you feel that way?"...really....)....even though I also remember having multiple parts on the SM with those filler parts from the rs book.

All the dubs do now are what my non-JW brother calls "Guerrilla Calls".... drop a 'Tower or a tract....and run.

Snakes (Rich )

What is the difference between the Titanic and the Watchtower Society? The Titanic sank faster, most of the people dressed better, and there were lifeboats available if you wanted off.

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Got a visit from door-to-door JW's!

by donuthole in

today while i was home for a quick lunch break i got a knock at the door.

i opened the door and was surprised to see two elderly jehovah's witnesses women.

i haven't been called on since i've been out for four years, so this was a bit of surprise.

SnakesInTheTower

isaacaustin:

You do not have to answer that if the question is too personal to either you or donuthole.

Yep. I didn't reveal that bit of info for a long time. DH and I have both said enough publicly (on the public portion of the board and on our blogs) that our whereabouts and identities are not a secret. He is DF... I will be eventually I am sure.

I have commented on his JC recently and in the past on the board. His was a witch hunt and all elders were by default on it.

Snakes (Rich

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Got a visit from door-to-door JW's!

by donuthole in

today while i was home for a quick lunch break i got a knock at the door.

i opened the door and was surprised to see two elderly jehovah's witnesses women.

i haven't been called on since i've been out for four years, so this was a bit of surprise.

SnakesInTheTower

jamiebowers:

I've worked at home for the last seven years with nary a visit.

that is because JWs avoid doing actual door-to-door like the plague. Though two "gentlemen" hit my future MIL the other day. She took their literature but said she had a toothache. She is eccentric. She is also Catholic....if the JWs come back....that should be interesting.

mimimimi:

Ginny Hampton Loftus

aint it nice to not care if they know who we are anymore?

..and on a side note... just in case there is still any doubt in those dumb ass elder's collective minds if they want to DF me, make sure it is for saying:

THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY IS NOT DIRECTED BY GOD OR HOLY SPIRIT NOR ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES OR IT'S GOVERNING BODY.

Unlike the flimsy "proof" of apostasy our JC had on Donuthole, I want them idiots to have clear proof in their puny minds about me.

Snakes (Richard E. Bailey of the "They would DF me if they would Google me!" Sheep Class)

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Got a visit from door-to-door JW's!

by donuthole in

today while i was home for a quick lunch break i got a knock at the door.

i opened the door and was surprised to see two elderly jehovah's witnesses women.

i haven't been called on since i've been out for four years, so this was a bit of surprise.

SnakesInTheTower

donuthole:

an elderly japanese sister who had I book study with

so sad, I know that sister of course. I was close friends with her and her husband...as well as her husband's parents (now deceased) and his three sisters, only 1 of whom is still in the area. The Japanese sister (M) is still after all these years in the US very much dependent on her friends and family. I am sure the beard threw them off.

Did you ever figure out who the other sister was?

Snakes (Rich )

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Are You Sick of Your Job (part 2) -- chased by a customer

by SnakesInTheTower in

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today is sunday.

i ranted about being sick of my job a couple of months ago, seen that the thread was bumped yesterday.

i usually work 2 or 3 days of the weekend (fri-sun) because that is when i make the most money (being commission and all).

SnakesInTheTower

...waiting.... waiting....waiting....damn I hate waiting.

I need to send a thank you note tomorrow to the interviewer. I hope I hear something before she gets the card. I should have had the card out yesterday. If I haven't heard by Friday after lunch I may ring them up and ask a "clarifying" question...one of those.... "you know you asked if I had any questions..... so easy to remember after you leave..." Keep me at the front of their minds before the weekend.

Especially since it was a 90 minute interview..... I was thirsty.... interviewer had a water bottle....mine was in the car... by the time it was over, I needed to go....my brain was mush.

Snakes (Rich )

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Elders on here... what if you were asked to sit on a JC for apostacy?

by Aussie Oz in

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i woke up this morning wondering what any elders who frequent this site would do if they were asked to part of a judicial commitee to disfellowship an apostate.. how would you handle it?.

has it happened to you?.

no deep reason why, just wondering!.

SnakesInTheTower

I was not asked I was told I along with all of the other elders were sitting on the case.

Search my recent posts and that of poster donuthole... I was an elder on his apostasy JC case.... no way out of it.

Snakes (Rich )

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Are You Sick of Your Job (part 2) -- chased by a customer

by SnakesInTheTower in

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today is sunday.

i ranted about being sick of my job a couple of months ago, seen that the thread was bumped yesterday.

i usually work 2 or 3 days of the weekend (fri-sun) because that is when i make the most money (being commission and all).

SnakesInTheTower

asilentone:

police uniform. I thought you would take the hint in my previous post

a lot of people who have not run across me already think I am either a) a cop b) a bounty hunter...or c) serving papers.

All because of my hat.

on another front...i interviewed for another job yesterday....still collections, but in the safety of a cube farm. The total interview lasted 90 minutes They went from the standard questions to an additional 45 minutes of what the interviewer said were "optional questions".....some were questions that had nothing to do with the original interview...and some were tied to specifics of my resume and my experience. It was the most brutal, mentally exhausting interviews I have ever had.

Do you think they would ask me "how much time do you need to give to your current employer if you were offered the job?" if they were not going to offer me the job? Next two training sessions start 9/20 and 10/7. Full benefits, medical, etc...that start Oct 1 if I start in September.

Fingers crossed.

Snakes (Rich )

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HELP REQUEST - Judicial Committee Hearing tonight!

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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i hate to ask you good folks to jump around but the first post in the thread below explains why i'm going into the jc meeting, hence the basis for my questions below.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/198636/1/reply-to-judicial-committee-question-thenoblelodge.

i have no idea how to present my witnesses.

they've already agreed to show up.

SnakesInTheTower

dh:

I would ask God not to charge this sin against them. I said it and I meant it. I forgave everyone in that meeting that night and I have tried to live up to that.

I thought it was something like that, but didnt want to misquote you. Good attitude to have. I don't think I have been DF, but I do think a marking talk has been made at area congos about me without mentioning me directly. I am avoided by most so-called "Strong" witnesses in the area now. (strong = elders, MS, pioneers, spouses of same).

looking forward to SBC's update....

Snakes (Rich )

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HELP REQUEST - Judicial Committee Hearing tonight!

by SweetBabyCheezits in

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i hate to ask you good folks to jump around but the first post in the thread below explains why i'm going into the jc meeting, hence the basis for my questions below.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/198636/1/reply-to-judicial-committee-question-thenoblelodge.

i have no idea how to present my witnesses.

they've already agreed to show up.

SnakesInTheTower

donuthole:

During my JC I asked three times who my accusers were and they failed to present them. The third time I was asked to leave the room and they would discuss if they bring forth my accusers, when I returned to the room I was summarily disfellowshipped.

....and since I was one of the elders on your JC, I can tell everyone else here what I already told you.

You had no chance at all. It had already been decided to DF you by the PO, his daddy, and the CO. The rest of us elders were dragged into the mess as a loyalty test. If we refused to go along with the charade, then we were also apostate. No this was not said, it was implied. If you went against the H family, then you were toast. (Ironic now that the PO and his wife were recently DF, along with the PO's mommy being DF and the PO's brother in law DF...and the whole H family gang and their buddy the service overseer are all gone). I dont think there is a single one of us elders from that JC still a JW..or at least not elders.......irony and karma rolled up in a sushi roll.

They (the PO and his daddy) had flimsy evidence (if you can define "evidence" as copies ...easily a ream of paper printed of your old blog which had nothing "apostate" in it), and NO witnesses (unless they count an anonymous email that an elderly sister presented to them that she suspected was from you as "Witnesses").... so your blog and the email were the evidence AND the 2 witnesses. It was as f**ked up as a soup sandwhich. The whole JC was just a formality for an already decided eventuality. The PO had it out for you and that was good enough. I stalled the thing as long as I could behind the scenes.

The appeals committee was also rigged by the CO....made up of the sub CO for the circuit, a young MTS elder (who was taking extensive notes) and another heavy hitter elder ...all from the A side (north) of the circuit. Your final parting words were classic and I wish I had my notes from that meeting.... you told them where they (and I since I was there too) stood.... I thought you were classy in your departure. Can you refresh my memory about what you said?

Snakes (Rich )