Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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How many received the memorial invitation?

by IMHO in

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how well is this territory being covered?.

how many on here (active jws excluded) received an invitation?.

SnakesInTheTower

funny, I called my JW mom last night... she never mentioned the big M. First time since I left. She never mentioned a thing related to JWs.

My (never a JW) fiancee said we got one in the door last week. She wasn't going to show it to me -- thinks it pisses me off. Au contraire... it matters not to me if they put that crap in my door or not. I think I put it in the compost bin -- maybe the worms will get a thorough witness.

She said if she went she would be bringing her Cheez-Wiz for the crackers.

I haven't heard from any active JWs in a long long time (other than running into them at the store). The way I like it

So much for them being my true Christian friends.

Snakes (Rich )

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Watchtower - simple doctrine for simple people

by jwfacts in

i know there are some intelligent witnesses that really research their beliefs, but the more i learn, the simpler and more ignorant watchtower doctrine appears.

that opinion is certainly not helped by some of the apologists that appear on this site.

most watchtower doctrine is a product of the black and white syndrome, where all the obvious shades of grey in between are simply ignored with statements such as "wait on jehovah".

SnakesInTheTower

prodigal son:

Actually, the Snakes in the Tower don't seem to care about murder, or even serial killers. After all, we need to have mercy on them. But smoke a joint? Now that's worthy of a one-way ticket to Gehenna.

haaaay... wait a minute... what you talking about me that way for?... oh wait, my screen name is a) because I thought the GB are snakes in the tower and b) they would probably have thought me to be a snake in their tower back when I was still an elder but coming to JWD... lol ... never mind.

just kidding... and good points JWFacts.. . my JW mother, a JW since 1970... 40 years, sh*t.... couldn't explain anything without a WT publication and/or the WT CD ROM now.

WT, et al has dumbed down an already dumbed down doctrine. Why do people stay in it?

Snakes (Rich )

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

SnakesInTheTower

Rick...

I haven't posted here much of late. When I do come on I immediately go to Active Topics. And this topic of your Six Screens keeps coming to the top. I realize, of course, that by my posting, it brings it back to the top yet again. I went back and read some, but not all, of this thread. I have read enough though. I have also visited your site a few times. Here are my observations:

Your site, even with the redesign, suffers from poor design issues. It is very dark and has the feel of a cheap tabloid. If I were an active JW looking for answers about the Organization, I sure as heck would have run the other way from your site.

Your videos of yourself are self-aggrandizing. If I were "on location" with you, I would hide my face. If I were a JW at the KH watching you film, I would point you out as a nut and an apostate.

The conference calls are indeed chaotic. If you allow unlimited access from your audience to make comments during the call, there can be no other result. You have zero outcome on the result. For you to post the resulting chaotic, lengthy calls without some serious editing cheapens the good information that might happen to be there. Indeed, you risk legal problems if something is said during the live call and it is broadcast all over the internet.

Your attacks on established posters of this forum show you to be lacking confidence in your own circus.

And just so you know, I will not "hide" behind my screen name and pretty sunset in my avatar. I have posted my real name before, I have no reason to hide any more. I am no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses, even though, I think, that such has never been announced.

Snakesinthetower ( aka Richard Bailey, Illinois)

43

Anyone have a Kindle or a Nook?

by Simon in

i really don't like the ipad (or apple) but i think an ebook reader would be nice.

nothing made by sony though .... the amazon kindle and barnes & noble nook look to be the best (esp.

with the recent price reductions) but i'd like any insight from anyone who has one.

SnakesInTheTower

I still like the feel of a book in my hands, but the thought of not having to find my reading glasses makes it tempting.

I like books on a shelf, but not having to dust or move them around.....

Snakes (Rich )

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I'm an HBH

by Lunatic Faith in

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i have received two visits from car-groups this week and am trying not to freak out.

i think it is because the co's visit is coming up.

i have been home-but-hiding both times.

SnakesInTheTower

HBH... .I still write that on my collections work orders for my cable customers.. LOL

DO NOT HIDE

I do not hide on the rare occasions that they show up here and I happen to be home. Why should I? I put the word out through back channels that if they harassed me or my fiancee or her son or caused her distress that the PR problem they would have in this town of (now) under 30,000 would be bad. I answered the door awhile back one Sunday morning in my robe, my soon-to-be step son in his PJs, and my fiancee in her robe. We are not yet married and they know it. Told them we will get married when the time is appropriate. They may or may not see a public notice in the paper.

Have not been DF yet. Wonder why? Maybe I know too much. (former elder, MTS grad)

Snakes (Rich )

9

I got this email

by Iamallcool in

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usa today map & jehovah's witnesses.........??.

jehovah's witnesses are now large enough to have a separate listing on the breakout of american religions.

no more 'other' category for us!?.

SnakesInTheTower

I am pleased on one hand that only 1% -- no more than 2% are dubs.

On the other hand, I just want to reduce that number by one individual -- my JW mom.

And by the way -- I hate both McDonald's and Watch Tower Corporation... gave 3 months to the former, 35 years (23 baptized) to the latter.

If I would have reversed that, I would probably have my own franchise and a 401(k) now. (BTW... I knew the daughter of a rabid JW that did just that...started at the bottom as a cashier... went on to become some big district manager / trainer... I think she has her own franchise(s) now.)

I don't go to either.

Snakes (Rich )

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Getting upset with children who cannot sit through the meetings.

by life is to short in

ok this thought came to me the other day.

i was thinking of the co who told me that he liked to see parents spank their children for not sitting still during the meetings.. i remember how hard it was to sit through two hours when i was four or five years old.

it was like forever.. i was thinking of comparing the hours that we have been alive to how long two hours is for a child.

SnakesInTheTower

hell... i could not sit through the meetings -- and I was a 30 something elder.

Might explain why I volunteered for attendant duties or food service duties at conventions. When I no longer was allowed those things, I went nuts.

Snakes (Rich )

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Did you do very early morning field service?

by truthseeker in

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in my old congregation, there was a group of dubs who started field service at 4am - yes, that's 4 o'clock in the morning.

i went with them on a few occasions.. to be ready, you'd have to be up at least 3:30am to get washed and dressed and maybe get a bite to eat.. at 4am, our designated driver would show up along with a couple of sleepy eyed jws trying to "get their time in.

" many times we'd go pick up a jw only to find they forgot about service and overslept.. .

SnakesInTheTower

We had a magazine route for the gas station owners. We placed new magazines... one at a time. So we could alternate weeks -- WT one Wednesday, Awake the next... 4 weeks... about 20-25 stations in our territory. I had a folder with a sheet so the pioneers could keep track when the stations were hit so as not to bug the people at the station. We also did laundromats and apartment laundry rooms and hospital reception rooms on other mornings because we could hit them early and often.

Then April would come and every JW and their mother wanted to do "early morning witnessing." Do you think these new comers would work with the pioneers and not risk our easy time? NO. They would hit the gas stations multiple days, using old magazines -- sometimes 3-4 years old magazines. So what started happening was that the station owners got sick of all these people bothering not only them but their employees. So we got booted out. Then April was over, the CO-inspired JW auxiliary pioneers crawled back in their beds, and the pioneers struggled for months to rebuild the gas station route.

Years later, after I left, I got to talk to many of those laundromat attendants and gas station owners/managers. The attendants admitted to me that they often waited until we left and then tossed the mags in the trash and the station managers -- who only took the magazines to be polite and keep JW customers -- got fed up when the visits became more than the predictable once a week. And why did we leave JW magazines in a Catholic hospital waiting room. The sisters (Catholic - not JW) would wait until the JWs left and then clear out the waiting room of magazines. Of course, the JWs thought the magazines were being read and taken by "interested" people... when in reality some nun or maintenance guy was tossing the rags.

I also remember doing star method of early morning work. We started at 7 am at the apartment complex closest to the KH, left mags in the laundry room, and then went out to some remote apartment complex 15 miles in some tiny town at the edge of our territory. Then by the time we got back in, it was 8 --- by the time we hit 4 more stops -- it was time to meet the group back at the KH. WOW-- 2 hours driving around "Counting Time."

What did we really accomplish? Nothing really. Glad I am no longer doing it. Especially when gas hit $4/gallon (I know -- you overseas people would love to see four buck gas -- but it was sticker shock for us in the US). Even at $3/gal now, I cannot imagine how pioneers keep gas in their cars.

Snakes (Rich )

PS.. Ironically, I asked my (never a JW) fiancee out on a date at one of those same laundromats. Hopefully this long engagement becomes a marriage this spring.

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Assembly Hall In Palm Beach Florida Sign says Christian Assembly Hall of Jehovah's witnesses

by DeeDubs in

i saw this on google when i was looking for a kh plan on visiting family.

is this new?.

SnakesInTheTower

somewhere in my archives I have a picture of the sign. My mom attended that place for a few years while living in Dania.

"Christian" my ass.... but at least the seats on the floor were comfortable. Made for nice napping when I visited a couple of times.

Snakes (Rich )

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As an Ex-JW (or whatever you are) Tell Us Your Core Hope / Dream / Wish

by OnTheWayOut in

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what i ask is for some specifics.

it helps to say it, type it, get it off your chest.

read mine and maybe you will have a good idea what i mean.. i hope that i get my wife out of the jw's by all of the positive reinforcement i have given her to be an independent thinker.

SnakesInTheTower

Get married to my beautiful NON-JW fiancee -- the sooner the better -- hoping for May.

Get my JW mom to wake the hell up and see the truth about the Truth®. Short of that, rebuild our relationship based on non-JW interests.

Snakes (Rich )