Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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HOME FROM THE MEH-MORIAL....GETS WORSE EVERY YEAR.....

by Mary in

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well, i walked in and got the love-bombing before i even made it past the foyer.

everyone's missed me, everyone's thrilled that i came, blah, blah, blah.

to be fair though, there were a few there that i do miss so it was nice to see them.

SnakesInTheTower

Mary... I am sorry that you had to go through that yet again.

My JW mom did not even tell me about the Memorial™ even though I talked to her two days prior. My fiancee said if she were going she was bringing a can of Cheez-Wiz™ for the "crackers." I told her not to bother, we had better things to do. (We went to an Earth Day festival instead -- though that is becoming more and more commercial and weirder with the New Age booths. We then went to CVS to shop for bargains - never thought about the Memorial until quite late... aww shucks)

I have wondered what new people (non JWs) thought of the memorial "talk" I gave a couple of years before I left the cult. How ridiculous I must have sounded. Not a one of the non-dubs studied as a result of the Memorial™, and few showed up for the [Not-So] Special Talk™

Supposedly, the local dubs loved the talk, not the same old same old. I think the outline was new, but I tried to spice it up some, make it more interesting, more about Jesus. (Meaning I had to go off the copyrighted outline a bit.) What I hated the year that I gave the Memorial™ talk was they had a separate "Special Announcement©." -- which was nothing more than invites to the Special Talk™ and for Bible Studies™ as I recall. It was a little slip of paper, about the same size as a time slip. It was to be read word for word with the same kind of enthusiasm as a convention release announcement. The young PO had a copy of the outline and the announcement in his lap making sure I did as I was told. I did not. I made the announcement as a mere afterthought, so as to not take away from the solemnity (gag) of the occasion. Of course, I was read the riot act about the announcement. Originally the PO wanted to be called up to the platform to make the announcement. I vetoed that. As Memorial™ speaker, I had control over every aspect of preparation through execution. Can you imagine how anti-climatic and very infomercial-ish that would be?

Oh wait, it is a book publishing corporation .

Snakes (Rich, of the "never going to the Memorial again" Sheep Class)

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Veggie Burgers, Are You Serious?

by prophecor in

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anybody else as shocked as i when you tasted them?.

SnakesInTheTower

OUTLAW:

They make as much sense as a Meat Milk Shake.

This was on the menu at Denny's recently. http://www.dennys.com/#/menu/menu-10

Snakes (Rich )

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Alert: Witch hunt begins Watchtower 15 july 2011

by Gorbatchov in

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reading the posts about the 2011-7-15 watchtower about mentally retarded apostates i foresee the following scenario:.

1. congregational elders trying to get grip on non regular publishers and inactive witnesses.. 2. the good ones read in the watchtower that apostates are to find in the local congregation.

3. inactives like me (i hate this name, but i use their language), and liberal witness like me, will be hunted, .

SnakesInTheTower

sylvia:

I am in the phone book.

Me too. And my home and cell phone numbers have not changed since I left. Neither has my address.

Oh, that's right, my publisher record, if it even still exists from 2007, is in a congregation in another state, another circuit, about 20 minutes away. I do not live in their territory. The territory that I do live in, I have not attended since 1991. The town that I live in, I have not been a publisher since I left for my MTS assignment in 2002.

Me thinks I fell through the cracks. hooooo raaaaah. If the "Organization" were truly organized, you would think they could find me to encourage and/or DF me. Hell, maybe they DF me in absentia.

Or maybe I just do not care if I am the subject of a JW witch hunt. F 'em

Snakes (Rich )

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How many received the memorial invitation?

by IMHO in

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how well is this territory being covered?.

how many on here (active jws excluded) received an invitation?.

SnakesInTheTower

funny, I called my JW mom last night... she never mentioned the big M. First time since I left. She never mentioned a thing related to JWs.

My (never a JW) fiancee said we got one in the door last week. She wasn't going to show it to me -- thinks it pisses me off. Au contraire... it matters not to me if they put that crap in my door or not. I think I put it in the compost bin -- maybe the worms will get a thorough witness.

She said if she went she would be bringing her Cheez-Wiz for the crackers.

I haven't heard from any active JWs in a long long time (other than running into them at the store). The way I like it

So much for them being my true Christian friends.

Snakes (Rich )

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Watchtower - simple doctrine for simple people

by jwfacts in

i know there are some intelligent witnesses that really research their beliefs, but the more i learn, the simpler and more ignorant watchtower doctrine appears.

that opinion is certainly not helped by some of the apologists that appear on this site.

most watchtower doctrine is a product of the black and white syndrome, where all the obvious shades of grey in between are simply ignored with statements such as "wait on jehovah".

SnakesInTheTower

prodigal son:

Actually, the Snakes in the Tower don't seem to care about murder, or even serial killers. After all, we need to have mercy on them. But smoke a joint? Now that's worthy of a one-way ticket to Gehenna.

haaaay... wait a minute... what you talking about me that way for?... oh wait, my screen name is a) because I thought the GB are snakes in the tower and b) they would probably have thought me to be a snake in their tower back when I was still an elder but coming to JWD... lol ... never mind.

just kidding... and good points JWFacts.. . my JW mother, a JW since 1970... 40 years, sh*t.... couldn't explain anything without a WT publication and/or the WT CD ROM now.

WT, et al has dumbed down an already dumbed down doctrine. Why do people stay in it?

Snakes (Rich )

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All out pandemonium breaks out on The Six Screens Conference call... Guest Barbara Anderson and Johnny the Bethelite.

by koolaid-man in

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this highly explosive six screens of the watchtower april 9-2011 conference call is now up loaded and ready to be heard.

concerned people from all over the world were calling in to get the latest news on what is going on in the world of the watchtower.. our first guest was barbara anderson and she brought us up to speed on the criminal complaint the watchtower organization is facing in australia.

barbara as always wants the facts straight and delivers her information in a very professional,competent manner.. steve guziec a former j.w.

SnakesInTheTower

Rick...

I haven't posted here much of late. When I do come on I immediately go to Active Topics. And this topic of your Six Screens keeps coming to the top. I realize, of course, that by my posting, it brings it back to the top yet again. I went back and read some, but not all, of this thread. I have read enough though. I have also visited your site a few times. Here are my observations:

Your site, even with the redesign, suffers from poor design issues. It is very dark and has the feel of a cheap tabloid. If I were an active JW looking for answers about the Organization, I sure as heck would have run the other way from your site.

Your videos of yourself are self-aggrandizing. If I were "on location" with you, I would hide my face. If I were a JW at the KH watching you film, I would point you out as a nut and an apostate.

The conference calls are indeed chaotic. If you allow unlimited access from your audience to make comments during the call, there can be no other result. You have zero outcome on the result. For you to post the resulting chaotic, lengthy calls without some serious editing cheapens the good information that might happen to be there. Indeed, you risk legal problems if something is said during the live call and it is broadcast all over the internet.

Your attacks on established posters of this forum show you to be lacking confidence in your own circus.

And just so you know, I will not "hide" behind my screen name and pretty sunset in my avatar. I have posted my real name before, I have no reason to hide any more. I am no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses, even though, I think, that such has never been announced.

Snakesinthetower ( aka Richard Bailey, Illinois)

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Anyone have a Kindle or a Nook?

by Simon in

i really don't like the ipad (or apple) but i think an ebook reader would be nice.

nothing made by sony though .... the amazon kindle and barnes & noble nook look to be the best (esp.

with the recent price reductions) but i'd like any insight from anyone who has one.

SnakesInTheTower

I still like the feel of a book in my hands, but the thought of not having to find my reading glasses makes it tempting.

I like books on a shelf, but not having to dust or move them around.....

Snakes (Rich )

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I'm an HBH

by Lunatic Faith in

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i have received two visits from car-groups this week and am trying not to freak out.

i think it is because the co's visit is coming up.

i have been home-but-hiding both times.

SnakesInTheTower

HBH... .I still write that on my collections work orders for my cable customers.. LOL

DO NOT HIDE

I do not hide on the rare occasions that they show up here and I happen to be home. Why should I? I put the word out through back channels that if they harassed me or my fiancee or her son or caused her distress that the PR problem they would have in this town of (now) under 30,000 would be bad. I answered the door awhile back one Sunday morning in my robe, my soon-to-be step son in his PJs, and my fiancee in her robe. We are not yet married and they know it. Told them we will get married when the time is appropriate. They may or may not see a public notice in the paper.

Have not been DF yet. Wonder why? Maybe I know too much. (former elder, MTS grad)

Snakes (Rich )

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I got this email

by Iamallcool in

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usa today map & jehovah's witnesses.........??.

jehovah's witnesses are now large enough to have a separate listing on the breakout of american religions.

no more 'other' category for us!?.

SnakesInTheTower

I am pleased on one hand that only 1% -- no more than 2% are dubs.

On the other hand, I just want to reduce that number by one individual -- my JW mom.

And by the way -- I hate both McDonald's and Watch Tower Corporation... gave 3 months to the former, 35 years (23 baptized) to the latter.

If I would have reversed that, I would probably have my own franchise and a 401(k) now. (BTW... I knew the daughter of a rabid JW that did just that...started at the bottom as a cashier... went on to become some big district manager / trainer... I think she has her own franchise(s) now.)

I don't go to either.

Snakes (Rich )

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Getting upset with children who cannot sit through the meetings.

by life is to short in

ok this thought came to me the other day.

i was thinking of the co who told me that he liked to see parents spank their children for not sitting still during the meetings.. i remember how hard it was to sit through two hours when i was four or five years old.

it was like forever.. i was thinking of comparing the hours that we have been alive to how long two hours is for a child.

SnakesInTheTower

hell... i could not sit through the meetings -- and I was a 30 something elder.

Might explain why I volunteered for attendant duties or food service duties at conventions. When I no longer was allowed those things, I went nuts.

Snakes (Rich )