as we all know, the clam reeks of propaganda and lunacy (sniff...sniff...mmmmm...smells like the gb's meeting room.
what did dubs glean from the clam that washed ashore this week?
according to the book of ezra, jeehoober is so fearful of competition, that he banishes wives and even small children.
a special message to her daughter, ann marie if you are watching this site.
your mother is eighty-eight now and her memory is going fast.
please call her, ann marie.
I think I found AM on fb and linkedin, should be just someone close reaching out though. Wouldnt want to bombard her with messages from strangers. Is Kirchener near Mouthy?
Snakes
Hugs to Mouthy/Grace
so we had brother losch visiting our special assembly day which was weird in itself.
he's not a very good speaker and seemed like he was in dire need of a nap or something.. anyways just a few observations from the assembly program.
theme: imitate their faith.
well, I guess if my last 2 remaining JW friends hear this bullsh*t they will quit staying in contact with me. one calls on his way from a job that keeps him away from his family days at a time, probably cause he is bored ...really we have nothing to talk about anymore. the other rarely calls but at least gave me a card and a plant when my non-jw brother died recently. I give the latter one credit, he just recently got remarried, so I am sure that takes his attention, as she she should. lol
snakes
it's up to some 800 zillion dollars now and hasn't suckered me in yet.
i've been out of watchtower for some 38 years now and i suppose the lottery is one of their nonoze.
i have nothing morally wrong against it or anyone who enjoys doing it.
I buy them occasionally, just one. I bought one today. Winning comes with its own problems. Hell, you'd have to hire someone to bale all of your mail from all of the unsolicited requests for money, change your address, phone, everything.
I'd be happy with a smaller prize without the required 1 time PR event with the stupid souvenir check, while the PB winner took the spotlight.
Snakes
i listen to dave ramsey while i work.
he is that financial guy who hates debt.
i agree with 90 percent of what he says.
I like ol dave, even if he is an evangelical christian. I bought a brand new honda civic in 02 right after i grad from mts. Assigned to a cong 75 miles away, but couldnt afford to move there.so i drove 150 mi. RT every sat, sun, thur, plus pioneering, plus later retail merchandising in 2 states....269K miles in 9 years. Being a JW with extra "privileges" is expensive.
Snakes
i read a thread recently that spoke of the wt ceasing to print watchtower and awake mags in india.
does anyone know if there is any substance/documentation to that claim?
I would not be surprised. I was supposed to be engaged to a sister in India back in 06. Then about 50k jw in india. I personally spoke to Service Dept. In India by phone. Things have never been quite up to GB NY standards. Congos are little fiefdoms. JC about to get you? Nothing a bribe of cash and alcohol can't fix.
Thankfully the engagement ended in 06 when I visited, my time as an elder ended when I got back, and my time as a JW ended a few months later.
Good riddance to all WT printing or digital EVERYWHERE.
Snakes
i know im young.
i know i still have so much to learn i mean im only 14 but but even at a young age i have learned and i know what love is.
this is where the problem comes in.
Not to put a too sharp a point on it, but in the minds of the Witnesses, YOU are a "worldly person", i.e., an undesirable in their world if you don't convert to JW.
On the other hand, the girl you are "dating" would not be considered a "strong" Witness if she is dating, a) at all at a young age, b) dating a "worldly" person.
Good that are you are thinking things through. We might have good intentions giving you advice, but we are strangers.
So, my advice to you comes from TWO poinnts of view: I am the father of a 14 year,old son AND I am a former elder in the Witnesses and left the cult. MY ADVICE ...kindly, gently, stop dating her. You are too young, and the cult is dangerous. Be friendly, but put some distance emotionally between you. Cool down.
If in a few years she leaves the cult ON HER OWN NOT FOR YOU and you reconnect later in life, that would be great...but don't hold your breath.
I wish you well young man.
Snakes (Rich)
my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.
our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.
he hung himself.
probably going to take a week off work for bereavement.... hell the company offers 5 days for close relatives and I hate going to work for many reasons these days. wasn't going to, but so much BS going on there, ...probably wait until next week when my mom comes through town on her way back from iowa.
not sure where my grieving process is at... people at work know because a) I posted it on FB ... because I got tired of being asked a bunch of questions so i just posted it... and b) it's just a weird topic and no one knows what to say to the family left behind. Also, I told my boss I didnt want to hear any more drama... no time for it... lol
Snakes
ps... is that just a weird random post..... my brain ain't working right.
my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.
our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.
he hung himself.
I am so tired emotionally. My middle brother (not JW) and mom have taken over ...my mom made stupid decisions that cost her more money than needed when dad died 20 years ago, and I'm afraid she is doing so now. she (age 72) and my stepdad are going to drive 2 days from Alabama to Iowa to "take care of things", way too much rushing. No talking to me about any of it unless I ask first.
My JW mom thinks Josh is asleep awaiting resurrection. **eye roll**
His friends, without asking the family, have started a large gofundme account already at $1500 of $2K for a tree planting and plaque in a favorite park. They planned a gathering next Sunday, a 5 hour drive each wsy...just after getting back from this trip 13 hours each way. I don't think I can get in the middle of it.
What I want to do is just get back home and sleep. Not be bothered with anyone.
I realize from all of the posts on FB that I did not know my brother any more. The only tears I have shed are from reading your posts here, FB, and another forum. The outpouring of kindness is unexpected but it helps.
Anyway, I will check back soon.
Thanks again
Snakes (Rich)
my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.
our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.
he hung himself.
I am overwhelmed by the responses.... I started to cry... just a bit. I speed read through all the pages so far, but I will go back and read carefully everyone's post again... I just couldn't keep reading.....
but you have no idea how much these posts mean to me. Some of you know me personally and we have interacted in real life. Some here are screen names showing real human beings behind them just by taking a moment to post something...... something I never got while in the cult.... real humans -- real feelings.
Thank you so much
Snakes (rich)
