Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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I revisit an old Jehovah's Witness friend from long ago...

by Terry in

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goodbye old friend; someday we'll meet again ….

the ghost with the fine china cups.

my last memory of her… a friend from long ago.. julie was a startling beauty, a blue-eyed, natural blonde; a model, guitar player, a singer with glowing purity of tone, a talented writer, and possessed of a wicked sense of humor.. she was too young to be dating and yet she was a natural flirt.

SnakesInTheTower

Terry

I always enjoy your writing. Admire your talent. Sad about your friend. In or out of the JW, that happens.

I was talking to my JW mom this evening. We are visiting in her home, 700 miless from home. I watch as the religion continues to eat away her soul. Her health remains good as far as I know, but you can tell she is tired. 50 years a Witness does that to you.

I was raised in it and walked away at 40. Been out 15 years. I watch my peers, many have nothing. I am rebuilding and married a non-JW. But I will never be able to retire.

But those younger? They are getting wiser. Outwardly still JW, inwardly hedging their bets and getting careers and education and saving, and so are THEIR offspring....just in case this Paradise thing doesn't pan out.

I hope this religion fizzles out. Covid is helping. More than the internet.

Snakes (Rich)

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Get Vaccinated or Get laid Off

by StephaneLaliberte in

i’m personally for the vaccine, took two shots and would take a third if asked.

but i know a friend of mine that doesn’t want to take the vaccine who works for the government and now is faced with this choice: get vaccinated or get laid off.

i don’t agree with this measure as it is totalitarian and runs against my core belief in individual freedom.. now, with that being said, what i don’t understand is that my friend still won’t get vaccinated.

SnakesInTheTower

Don't work for the government or work for a private employer with less than 100 employees. No shot.

I work in the Healthcare industry. Our biggest client in our area is a large hospital chain with lots of medical groups. They offered vendors the shots early and I got mine. My wife has health issues and I will chance the shot over bringing her Covid. My wife also got the shots.

For work, I am in and out of medical facilities all the time as a courier.

With my promotion in December, these days I am more admin in the office than on the road. I work from home about 40-50% of the time now, not because of Covid, but because our office building got flooded in July (fire suppression system leak), so my office is gutted.

But, I don't think anyone should be "mandated" to take the shot. My 20 year old son refuses. I wish he would, but he is a legal adult. His choice.

My company is getting ready to mandate it.....it's coming. Our drivers have NO idea. I wonder how many drivers will leave?

A different world.

Snakes

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Debating Disassociation

by B_Deserter in

it's been about 10 years since i posted here.

a lot's happened of course.

but here's where i'm at right now.. i was never (to my knowledge) disfellowshipped.

SnakesInTheTower

B Deserter

I also walked away 14 years ago. As far as I know, I'm not DF and I never DA.

My JW mom is same as yours, 50 years in it, not leaving. Still talks to me, also generous. We don't have young kids so not an issue for us.

DA/DF is a WTBTS/JW dot borg construct. You don't believe it, why play by their rules. Why force an unforced issue (unlike Lloyd, he was getting booted anyway)?

My opinion. Your mileage may vary. Good luck.

Snakes (Rich)

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JWperfectmatch is a dating site for Genuine Jehovah's Witnesses.

by JWpMatch in

jwperfectmatch is a dating site for genuine jehovah's witnesses.. on jwperfectmatch, our goal is to bring together active members of the congregation of jehovah's witnesses worldwide, interested in building a friendship or an authentic loving relationship in a safe and clean environment.

jwperfectmatch is a site designed exclusively for single jehovah's witnesses.

it will help you to find someone who meets your expectations and shares your same values, principles, love, and obedience to jehovah.visit us!

SnakesInTheTower

Hmmmm....me thinks violation of posting rules

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Lloyd Evans keeps doing parts on how the JWs are guilty of follwing the bible.

by mickbobcat in

i have been watching evans videos for a while.

he keeps attacking the cult for following the bible.

women are to be subservient to men.

SnakesInTheTower

I like Lloyd, I really do. He and his crew have helped many leave the Dubs.

But I cannot watch his videos. Not because of content, that is excellent.

No, it is because they are too damn long. lol

I wish he would do 10 minute videos, to the point.

I am picky with my time. That and I come here to get the short version of Dubland News.

My 77 year old mom is still PIMI. If not for that, I could fully ignore all things JW.

But, like this site, I am grateful for those who put in the work, it got me out.

Snakes

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I'm now turned off by this site

by purrpurr in

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friends

in one form or another i've been a member of this site for almost 10 years.

in the past this was a great place for debate, news and support for ex jws.

i logged on several times a day and posted several times a week.

SnakesInTheTower

Bluesbrother, did not mean to down vote your comment, I agree with you.

When I first came here 15 years ago, I was still an active elder with a lot of unanswered questions. In December 2006, I was removed as an elder for "unreasonableness," a catchall term used by JWs when they got nothing specific on you...so instead they get me for....

Dating a JW online in India, a sister verified by the branch as legit.

Starting college to improve my economic status and get out of poverty. (Despite an elder in my old KH pursuing a Masters and teaching at Community College....good for my old friend).

Questioning how a fellow elder could get on the platform and warn against masturbation and pornography and yet secretly be doing both and admitting if he hadn't been caught he wouldn't have come forward. They said I was unreasonable for not being more forgiving and agreeing with the BOE and keeping him on.

Questioning the same elder for scamming an elderly sister into switching her phone service to his MLM service.

I need to stop...what they did not like was me calling THEM out.. LOL.

By 2007, I had read enough on JWD/JWN to know WT was BS and I walked away. If not for this site, I would not have started dating in the "world" and met my now wife (12 years together, 10 married in June).

Who knows how many others have been helped, but if not for Simon and his wife,, and Flippper and others here who got me through, I might still be trapped like my 77 year old mom.

There, no politics.

Snakesinthetower (Rich, of the "Forever Grateful" Sheep Class)

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Please how do someone become an Anointed Christian in Watchtower Organization.

by bola in

jw
friends

please how do someone become an anointed christian in watchtower organization.

i informed my elders in my congo that i am an anointed christian..

SnakesInTheTower

I once asked a GB member how do you know if you are of the annointed or not, his response simply was:"If you have to ask the question you are not."

Of course, the GB are full of $hit. LOL

Snakes

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Please Keep Your Comments 30 Seconds or Less

by IWant2Leave in

after listening to the zoom meetings the past two weeks, i started to wonder, what is the real purpose for such short comments.

policy for 5 or more years now.

supposedly, it is so more can comment.

SnakesInTheTower

My JW mom has been a dub for 50 years. Baptized in 1970. I cannot imagine she likes the lack of well researched comments. Of course, she actually "studied" the Babylon the Great book and other thick tomes back in the day. She was encouraged by the Special Pioneers that studied with her to research and comment, not recite answers.

The drivel they spoon feed her now has her bored. She hates Zoom meetings, she won't do phone witnessing, but does help maintain phone lists for others. She was criticized for typing letters instead of handwriting them. Her arthritis really hampers that.

At nearly 78, in relatively good health (she still drives and push mows her yard), she has no other social structure, lives in a rural part of the South (Alabama, US), She takes other JW women 20 years her junior on their errands. If she lost that, she would only have my brother, SIL, my wife and I. I cannot imagine being a dub now.

Snakes (Rich)

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Reason why fancy dress up parties were totally band!

by Witness 007 in

we had a fancy dress up party in our congregation.

elders special pioneers and many others came, though some came as cowboys and pirates with guns and swords which was not in line with the watchtowers "beat your swords into plough sheers.

" some sisters were belly dancers....yes they exposed their stomachs.....shock horror!

SnakesInTheTower

I wonder if that Midwest US party was in Souther Illinois? IL6 and Especially IL7.

Oh the fallout from that one was widespread. I was not yet an elder, but was deep with circuit heavies in the region, so heard it through them and at elders' meetings a few years later.

Snakes

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What made you walk out on the "Truth"?

by Overrated in

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friends

i had a legal divorce from my ex wife( law of the land).

i was told not to expect to get remarried because my divorce was not legal to watchtower.. my divorce and situation seem to be a talk of gossip and even a many local needs talks.

i wanted to take some more schooling to get a better job, there was a local needs talk on higher education and it's dangers.

SnakesInTheTower

1991 was my first doubts, chronology and generations. I should have left then at age 27. Instead I doubled down, eventually becoming an elder in 2002 and attending MTS. That 8 weeks was eye opening in ways they did not intend. I swept it under the rug until 2006 when I was removed as an elder, non JC. I knew through MTS I could have fought the decision and had it reversed, but by then why bother. I had started community College, my first class was ethics. THAT made the scales drop from my eyes.

I changed congos, circuits, and states, but stayed where I lived, since it was only 15 minutes from home. After an initial love bombing as a former MTS student who had been with them for 8 weeks, once they knew I couldn't be reappointed for two years, they chilled quickly.

Short story (longer version is here somewhere), August 2007 was my last meeting and I've NEVER been back.

My life is better, I have a career, a house I own, a wife and son (neither a dub). And a JW mom who still loves me.

Snakes