Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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how much has your EXIT consumed you?????

by oompa in

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i think i must be a bit obsessive.....i cant shut up apostating every chance i get to any old freind or family that will listen.....i drive a lot and jwshit is on my mind more than anything else....and i come here many times a day and it seems like i have been here for two years at least but it is just over a year i believe....every step i take and plan i make is about whether or not i can do it with my wife or behind her back (like otwo and others here).......she is about to go out of town for over a week and it is like i am planning for christmas!!

!......i cant wait to have friends over i only get to when she is gone....the jw effect is still omnipresent and i dont even know how much 45 years of ingraining has wired my brain.........................oompa.

SnakesInTheTower

I dont obsess. I couldnt care less about the UN, pyramids, or any of the multitude of flip flops over the years. I do care that many people are wasting their lives in the Organization. My mom is a prime example.

She was preyed upon by special pioneers 40 years ago/....although I will never fault them individually...they were not trying to hurt anyone. That is what I realize...very few JWs are actually trying to victimize others. They are just along for the ride. The few power hungry elders, MS, elderettes would still be abusive, power hungry individuals if they were not JWs. They would just find a different group of people to mess with. I cannot pull the rug out from under my mom after 4 decades. If she wants to spend her retirement years regular pioneering (without signing the paper), that is her social network...go for it. It could be worse...she could be an alcoholic (more than she might be now), or a gambling addict, or a druggie.... and I know her "efforts" in field circus are but a blip. She has never brought anyone "in"... mostly she "studies" with others who are lonely...the elderly mostly....

The pedophile thing bothers me the most. I cannot do anything about it. There are people (Silent Lambs, SNAP) and others who have been after WTBTS a lot longer than my exit time.... I will leave it to those experts to keep after the WT. I have nothing useful to contribute.

I dont actively go after WT. I dont submit my DA letter because I do not believe in their JC system. If they want to DF me that's up to them. I only care if they do because I am still in a town with a few inactive dubs that associate with me. It is more about not hurting them than about me. Once I move away, game over.

If I can help someone else that is trying to leave, I will. Someone else helped me.

I am on here nearly every day. JWS occasionally.... I go through spurts of posting. One day I may just stop. Today is not that day.

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I'm still on a book study list after 10 years...what??????

by Hope4Others in

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today i found out that for some strange reason and i say strange we are still on a book study list.... .

something to do with field service meet ups at various houses....well i haven't been to a meeting since.

1997.....or memorial since 2001....go figure...... what are they thinking?

SnakesInTheTower

there is probably a "master" list of everyone ever associated in the last 20 years that might show up for field circus.

If they did it the way I think, they will (as they did for book study groups) assign a certain number of "strong publishers" (guaranteed to show up no matter what), some "average publishers" (will show up a couple of Saturdays a month but not if something better comes along) and then the "inactive, irregular, got to assign them somewhere" (but will never show up) publishers.

Congratulations, you made the third category. Unless you are DF, you will make the grade..lol

Snakes (of the "never was assigned to a book study at my last congo" Sheep Class)

145

How Old are You ?

by flipper in

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i know- you aren't used to seeing me ask a simple question like this.

so- i'll start .

i am 49 years old, will be 50 in october .

SnakesInTheTower

priest:

My age? 1225

√1225 = 35?

Snakes (of the "smart enough to plug that in my calculator" Sheep Class)

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Ladies - Educate us Men - What Do you Want From your Man ?

by flipper in

so i started this thread on another board too.

we have a sizeable number of people - men and women not in a relationship perhaps here.

ladies - what is it that you want in a relationship emotionally, mentally, sexually, and materially ?

SnakesInTheTower

rebel8:

Respect is #1. This means no making insults thinly disguised as jokes

why do men do this?. I have seen it alot .....in and out of the borg..and there is nothing funny about it...there will be that nervous titter of laughter as everyone knows what just happened and hope it goes away real fast..... but you know the girl is humiliated (and that goes for girls doing it to their guys,...equally bad).

If I ever find a gal willing to put up with my silly old self, I would treat her with kindness...genuine kindness and respect leads to trust... and trust is the basis for a gal being my best friend and me hers. My worldly brothers tell me that is my problem..I am too nice. I dont believe in the "bad boy" image...even if I hadnt been a dub..its just not who I am......I couldn't pull it off for long if at all. lol

Take care of yourself.

Anyone that has seen me in person (or seen one of two pics of me on this board) knows I will never make the cover of GQ. So I figure I better make up for what I was not given by taking care of myself. I am not overweight, my BMI is good, I try to eat healthy but am not fanatic about it. I go to the gym occasionally but walk alot for my job.

I give really good massages, but rarely get to give them.

chelle:

i dont ever want to go to bed angry

that is certain to doom a relationship.

be cuddly once in a while its lovely

I miss hugs. Close human contact with someone you care for and knows they care for you?...nothing better... and way to rare in my life.

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As a JW Did you Feel you Could Fully Trust the Elders ?

by flipper in

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i know for many of the 44 years i was in the jw cult from birth - i felt i could.

or should i say i was conditioned to feel that " i should " trust the elders.

as jehovah's witnesses we were all told the elders were " crags in a waterless country " who would be a " spiritual stronghold " for us.

SnakesInTheTower

In the back of my mind I wanted to trust the elders..."Jehovah" said so...., but my paranoid self didn't allow it. I grew up not trusting anyone in school..I had a hard time forming friendships because I couldn't trust people (there is a dark story behind that). There were elders I thought I could trust...and I wanted to be like them...and then....

....I became an elder....and sadly, I became just like them...... by definition an elder is self-righteous and judgemental ...its in the job description..... I said I cared but in retrospect, it was only after leaving the Borg that I became a truly caring person..so I have been told. I am still working out who the hell I am now. Right now it is "what you see is what you get" and that is an angry individual....pissed at being...not so much duped..I knew something was off back pre 1995..... definitely knew it post-1995.

One so-called "worldly" friend of mine that I had worked with in the past had lunch with me a few months after I attended my last meeting...and she paid a compliment and a kick in the gut at the same time. She said, "{Snakes}, you are a really nice, funny guy.....I knew you cared about my husband and I when you...{}, but this is the first time I seen what I felt is your real personality...don't ever go back to the cult."

I realized then that my personality had been molded beyond recognition by the cult. Looking back, I wouldn't have trusted me as an elder either. Ironically, a lot of the elderly publishers did trust me. Occasionally, I hear from one of them calling to see if I was coming back. Saddens me I cannot fully tell them the truth and just avoid the calls.

My last attempts at trusting elders were dashed in the last few months. I have written about those incidents here. They are not my friends. I thought they were, but they are not. They would throw me under the bus in negative point zero zero five seconds if they knew I posted on a "so-called" apostate web site or told them how I really felt about the religion I grew up with. I still trusted them as friends if not elders. Based on their last actions, I no longer trust them as friends either.

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How Old are You ?

by flipper in

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i know- you aren't used to seeing me ask a simple question like this.

so- i'll start .

i am 49 years old, will be 50 in october .

SnakesInTheTower

mimimimi:

I am 57, but feel so much younger.

that's cause you quit letting the Borg run you ragged and you can have fun now.... let the wind fly through your hair on ya bike. lol

flipper:

You aren't used to seeing me ask a simple question like this

WHAT! a one line question topic? It's not flipper...who took over flipper's account? Aliens? ghost of Ted Jaracz? LOL

Me...I am 42...Hey Bethel spies...have you figured out who I am yet you bastards? **insert international hand gesture for disrespect**

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Searching for names of elders?

by Truth and Justice in

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i don't know if anyone can help me on this, but my question is this- is there a website in which there is a list of kingdom halls with the names of elders from that congregation in a particular state?

i don't want anyone to go thru too much trouble for me, but i sure wonder if there is.. the reason i ask is because 2 of my brothers in the family are po and elder located in a sothern state that i know.

my curiousity is to know which hall there in, maybe it would give some sort of clues as to whether there on this site.

SnakesInTheTower

You could call Patterson (845-306-1000) and ask for Service Dept. When you get them, tell them you are a dub that will be visiting that city on vacation and want the name and maybe number of the PO for that congo or congos... tell them you already have a KH number but no answer.. This will only help if you know which city they are in. If there are a large number of congos in the city, then you might not be able to get the info you need.

If there are a large handful of congos in the city....you can randomly call KHs during meeting times and ask for Bro. So-and-So.

If there is an JW assembly hall within 3-4 hours of the city you are looking at, call the assembly hall during business hours and see if you can find out info that way. You could, if you wanted, even casually ask the brother who is the caretaker if they know Bro. So-and-so..... most assembly hall caretakers know most if not all of the POs in the area. If they want to know why you are asking, have a real good answer worked up ahead of time.

I am not beyond subterfuge. Block your number either way. Theocratic warfare and all that.

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Putting Hippos on the Titanic???????????

by Warlock in

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another fine article about "the stimulus".

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/2009/0211.html.

warlock .

SnakesInTheTower

I took microeconomics last semester and this semester I am taking the other half..macroeconomics... timely indeed.

Quite honestly, knowledge scares the hell out of me. But better to know than to be in the dark any longer (gee, I wonder where I have heard that from before....hmmmm...can you say Jdubs?....in the dark?).

Yeah, I don't like being in the dark. How many people in the general population do you think are actually going beyond what the Great Messiah Obama is spouting. And yes, I voted for Obabma...lesser of two evils...politicians by nature are wicked...either when they start or after they get in they have to play the game (hmmmm...can you say...elders...play or get the boot?) Even the talking heads on CNN are not truly telling people what they need to hear. CNN, FoxSnooze, and all the rest just tell people enough so they won't dig any further..... Who really takes the time to dig into the basics of economics? 1 in 1000?, 10,000? I didn't before taking those classes.

Funny that article Warlock posted talks about Keynesian economics... same guy I wrote about earlier today.... hippos on the titanic? Yep...it is going to sink anyway, lets just make it happen faster.

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Best File/Disk Recovery Program

by Satanus in

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due to a series of blunders, i munched the data on my hard disk, and my backup.

gonna try and recover the stuff.

help on which is/are the best programs for this is appreciated.

SnakesInTheTower

You don't say if you are using Windows or Mac OS or what version... or what you meant by "munched" data.....

Just today I was reading a computer magazine and they recommend a free program called FreeUndelete.

http://www.officerecovery.com/freeundelete/

A couple of things.. FIRST: quit using the computer that has the data you want to recover. Every time you use it you risk the computer overwriting the data. The data may still be there, it is just that those particular sectors of the hard drive have been flagged by the MFT (Master File Table..think of it as a table of contents for a book) as available to use for new data. This software looks for those flags and then sees where the actual data is stored (all over your hard drive). It then reassembles the data into new files...and you can see what was recoverable and what was not.

Second you will need to download the undelete software to another computer (for reasons above). You can then transfer the software to a USB jump drive. Then remove the USB drive with the undelete software from the second computer and plug it into the computer with the hard drive you want to recover data. Run the program from the USB drive and follow the instructions.

Third... BACKUP the data to yet another external hard drive (or web based storage service). I lost 10 years of Money data because my hard drive and my floppy (3.5 in) disk...both of them...were garbage.... after that I quit balancing my checkbook. I do my budget in Excel.

...the magazine that I got this from also has a Help Desk for subscribers that I have found to be very reliable...so if the publishers are recommending this software I would trust it. Haven't had need for it yet, but glad it is there. Hope this is helpful.

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If the glass is half full,

by John Doe in

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and the future holds promise and progress, why does letting the past go hurt like such a bitch?

when tape clings so tenaciously to a healing wound, why do we pull it away slowly?.

SnakesInTheTower

I am neither half full or half empty kind of person. I am more a realist...

I am just happy if I have a glass with clean water in it.

(although I caught my cat drinking out of glass on my nightstand last night lol )

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