Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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The Assembly Experiences - Standard Format

by sd-7 in

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matthew 6:1: "take good care not to practice your righteousness in front of men in order to be observed by them; otherwise you will have no reward with your father who is in the heavens.".

"now we'd like to call to the platform brother so-and-so, a [let's face it, capital letters should be used] regular pioneer and elder in the blah-blah-blah congregation.

brother so-and-so, what helped you to put kingdom interests first?".

SnakesInTheTower

but I could not watch that past about halfway through

0:33...that's all I could take..never made it to the interview... the "convention" cadence of the speaker about made me hurl...

....Snakes (Rich )

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Thermostat "wars"...stories from post-Borg life continue :)

by SnakesInTheTower in

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i dont post or even read on here nearly as often as i did in the early days of my exit from the watchtower.

much has happened since i walked away from "the truthtm" and when i can get a few minutes i will post an update.

i also owe freeminds a story...one i have to rewrite after losing my hard drive.

SnakesInTheTower

changeling:

choose Toni over saving a few pennies. Being frugal is one thing, but it can cross over to stingy pretty quickly

no doubt here. I was once described as being so tight with money that the buffalo roars when I squeeze a nickle... I am willing to pay extra for quality or for something important...this is a case of the latter....

never skimp on TP

I dont... she did at her old apartment....now if I can get the two of them to swap out rolls when it is running out... I bought a two roll wire rack that hangs over the side of the toilet tank..... it seems like they both use them equally so both rolls run out at the same time... I even keep extra in the bathroom closet in reach... no luck... I am the changer of the paper...lol...toni even said to me: "I bet you $5 that you cannot let both rolls run out before going into the closet to change the rolls." I told her I would lose the bet... she was willing to give me five bucks to let it go to the core... can't do it...drives me nuts... I change the roll out right before it goes empty and set it on top of the new roll...

mimimim:

I bought a dual control electric blanket for our bed, so that helps at night

oooo...gaaaaadgettttts.....shiny fuzzy gadgets...wouldn't help the getting up at night thing though... she just cuddles closer to me if she is cold....

oh well... if this is the biggest "conflict" she and I have in life, we are doing great... nothing earth shattering...

Snakes (Rich )

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Thermostat "wars"...stories from post-Borg life continue :)

by SnakesInTheTower in

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i dont post or even read on here nearly as often as i did in the early days of my exit from the watchtower.

much has happened since i walked away from "the truthtm" and when i can get a few minutes i will post an update.

i also owe freeminds a story...one i have to rewrite after losing my hard drive.

SnakesInTheTower

I dont post or even read on here nearly as often as I did in the early days of my exit from the Watchtower. Much has happened since I walked away from "The Truth™" and when I can get a few minutes I will post an update. I also owe FreeMinds a story...one I have to rewrite after losing my hard drive. I have learned my lesson on that and bought an external hard drive with autobackup...

Meanwhile, just a real life story on my adjustment to the nearly married life. (nearly since we were not able to get married on our first available Jan 8 date...we are now looking at end of May) Things are going fine with Toni and (her 8 year old son) and I. They moved in with me back in September 2009. I posted one of my real life threads back then:

one ply vs two ply debate

We have our usual ups and downs...a few minor disagreements...but we never go to bed angry. One (of many) great things about her is that we can talk and do so honestly, so we generally avoid the escalation to arguments...I hope it can stay that way. Her son is starting to settle down, certainly a dramatic improvement in him since his initial days here. Still some concerns, but I think time will smooth things out. "Problem" is he is too smart and too logical to be 8. Yet, he is 8. Thus the conflict with the kid ...

To the main point of the thread. (note to our non-US posters, temps are in Farenheit not Celsius). This morning, as has been the case since the temps in our area started getting so cold (as in zero the other day), the discussion turned to the topic of the thermostat. I have a programmable thermostat in the living room and each day it has a different program, changing 4 times a day. During the week, I have it set overnight to 65F. Half hour before she has to get up for work, it goes to 68. When I leave for the day a few hours later (around 9), it goes to 60 since it is only the cat in the house. Since I am not made of money, no point in lining the pockets of the local utility. Before my fiancee is scheduled to come home from work around 2, heat goes back to 68. When we go to bed at 11, it reverts to 65. So the coldest it gets when she is here is 65.

This is where the conflict comes in. She gets cold easily. Diabetes, though better than it was a few months ago, does not help with her blood circulation. Not so bad when she is cuddling with me under the nice toasty comforter in the sleep number bed. Bad when she has to get up to go to the bathroom. Before she gets out of bed in the morning, I get up and turn on the space heater in the bathroom so it is toasty (75). She is still cold with 68. Temps outside have moderated overnight back into the upper 20s/low 30s.

When we are taking baths and/or showers, she overrides the thermostat to 73. Now, I have to tell you, at 73 degrees I am boiling up. I am down to t shirt and jeans at that temp. I dont object to the 73 for a few minutes. She always puts it back after baths are done. Right now the discussion is over the 65 versus 68 overnight. She was going to throw in the towel and just "live with" 65. I am willing to (and when I get back home later will) change the program to 68 overnight. I can get used to that. I dont want her to settle on something to avoid an argument (something she has done in the past during a previous marriage to avoid conflict..a whole other topic). I want her to be happy and comfortable. So it will go to 68 overnight.

By the way, the temperature change is a pretty big change for me compared to when I was single. When I was single, it was always 60 overnight and I just put a small space heater in the bedroom if I wanted it warmer. She shudders, literally, when I tell her that. LOL

Anyway, life is good...weigh in on the thermostat debate if you like... I can take it....

Snakes (Rich )

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Song Book changes - the 'real' reason behind them - EYE OPENING

by EndofMysteries in

it's very interesting comparing things that are removed.

for one, new world order and new world, new order, all being eliminated from everything.

just research nwo, "new world order", etc, to see.

SnakesInTheTower

I am so glad I dont have a new or old song book to make these comparisons... it really no longer matters to me. I think that is progress.

I can no longer remember the lyrics to the old songs or their "melodies" (gag).... progress.

Snakes (Rich )

ps...however, these changes are very interesting and just emphasizes the cultishness of this bunch of idiots...

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Why Would Someone Like me Leave the "Truth"? Part 1

by cantleave in

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the title of this series of threads is rhetorical.

i am going to answer it with my own experience.

before i do that, i want to discuss what we are told through the literature and the instruction that is given during meetings, assemblies and conventions, for the reasons why people leave the truth.. the watchtower of 15 november 2008, in the article help them return without delay indicates people leave because of the following:.

SnakesInTheTower

marking for later read...just the bit i looked at is interesting...

Snakes (Rich )

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Husband finds missing wife dead in the snow (in Kingdom Hall parking lot)

by betterdaze in

husband finds missing wife dead in the snowby lisa demer.

[email protected].

published: 01/01/10 5:41 am | updated: 01/01/10 5:41 am.

SnakesInTheTower

An Anchorage man who reported his wife missing on Sunday found her Thursday afternoon, dead and lying in the snow next to her religious meeting hall.

this is very sad....

was last seen by her husband, Edgardo, the evening of Dec. 26, police said. When he got home from work around 4 p.m. the next day, he saw she had put pillows under the blankets so that he would think she was still in bed. He called police to report her missing

and a side note to the purpose of this board...what does this tell us about how much field service the witnesses are doing now... husband last sees her Saturday night, goes to work. comes home from work thinks finds her gone..she tries the pillow trick so he doesnt know she has gone to the meeting Sunday morning? Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday...no one goes out in service from the KH? No one finds her in the snow pile? I have to assume no one was there for 4 days. When I was a kid I lived in Juneau in the early 70s...dubs were always out in service....no matter the day of the week. Why did no one think to check the KH? White coat or not, something is wrong here.

Snakes (Rich )

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Snakes in the tower READ!!!

by mouthy in

thank you so much for the words you put in my card .

((((((hugs)))it uplifted me.

SnakesInTheTower

hiya Grace....glad you got the card and glad you got a boost...happy new year from me, Toni, and "Mr. H" (my nickname for her 8 YO)..

I dont get on JWD as much as I used to...busy enjoying life outside of WTland...and the holidays have kept me busy......I was on JWD earlier today for a few minutes but didnt see your post.....I missed the post until I got a message on Facebook...and I dont get on Facebook and would have missed it if not for a message forwarded from Facebook on my yahoo email...which I dont get on much either..it had 136 unread emails......LOL

in all seriousness, I use my juno address for email mostly...I dont like text messages, I am on instant messenger only rarely.... I use my cell only because I have to.

i will check the technology a little more often....

Snakes (Rich )

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Pedophilia: Belgium Branch Letter to the BOE

by Nick! in

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belgium branch pedophilia letter to the boe.

i have received recently the attached copy of a letter dated january 26 2000, which is supposed to be an official communication to all congregations in belgium, giving instructions on how to deal with pedophilia cases.. .

i am interested to understand if this letter, from the belgium branch, .

SnakesInTheTower

sm:

Communication with CO is never generally in the same letter as BOE's

incorrect. funny how you put "never" (an absolute word) with "generally" (which allows exceptions) in the same statement.

When I was an elder I did see letters to elders that are sent out to both CO and the BOE's...either as addressed to both or with one or the other as "cc:" (carbon copy..an archaic abreviation if I ever seen one..LOL). And I did see a similar letter in the US when I was still an elder.

Snakes (Rich )

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Notes From the Annual Meeting - Oct 3, 2009

by daniel-p in

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from a little bird... .

interesting portions highlighted.

notes from annual meeting (oct 3, 2009) .

SnakesInTheTower

bump cause I am behind in reading...lol

willyloman:

Translation of the minutes from Annual Meeting:

"The generation you thought I was talking about is not the generation you thought I meant."

Yoda/Barr: "Generation doctrine remember you do not. Preach nonsense you will."

JW RF: "I do not remember the generation teaching. I will preach nonsense."

Yoda/Barr: "Good. Now, donuts and coffee eat you will, but long you will not be."

JW RF: "Yes, doooooonuts. Short coffee break. Very good Master."

D'Oh!

Snakes (Rich )

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Is the Door to Door Preaching Obsolete?

by lepermessiah in

i wanted to get some opinions on this.. the last few years i was active as a jw, i thought that the door-to-door preaching work was the biggest waste of time.

you rarely got anyone home, those you did get home were rarely interested, and it seemed like a huge waste of resources.. in line with that thought, i was speaking with a gentleman at work the other day - he is a very active pastor in the community, and him and i have gotten to be pretty good friends - we have had a ton of interesting conversations.he recently moved his church to a bigger location due to past and expected future growth.. he was telling me that one of his big concerns was the fall-off of church attendance in our area.

he had a company actually come in and do a study for him with census information, demographics, etc.

SnakesInTheTower

jwoods:

but it also gave only an illusion of supporting the massive printing operations at Bethel.

ironically, I helped run the Literature Litteratrash Depot at an Assembly Hall here in the midwest for 12-15 years. I can remember when there were months, especially around annual items time (bound volumes, year books, etc.) that we would get 15 pallets stacked high with lit and it came in on a Watchtower owned semi. The last few months that I did this waste of time (sometime in 2006), we were getting only 2-3 pallets, not all of them full, and they were being sent LTL (less-than-load) via "worldly" carriers...it would be trucked to the shipper in NY, sent via rail to the midwest, where a local LTL semi would pick up the lit and unload it....

I think that very little literatrash is being placed in the field these days... the last time I did door-to-door in Dec. 2006, I used only tracts and a bible, rarely placed, or attempted to place, anything else..... I did early morning "witnessing" with 2 or 3 others from 7am - 9am...driving to the same empty laundromats and leaving new not old magazines....because no one wanted them in the regular door to door work.

As to people even answering the door.... the least likely time to catch people home is midweek. Saturday mornings before 10 there are lots of people home...but the average meeting for service doesn't even end before 930am...and the groups often stop at their same tired magazine route calls before heading to the same tired territory (which may not even be covered once a year instead of twice)..... getting the same people with the same poor results.

I dont know why they use this method anymore... except it is no longer about reaching people...its about counting time and busy work.

Glad I am not doing it anymore...

Snakes (Rich )