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  People Asking Me To Help Them Leave

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i dont know if it's due to the last convention, the recent broadcasts, the internet or just plain fatigue - but since the convention i've had a few people contact me via facebook messenger asking how i am then cutting to the chase asking me what it's like "on the outside" or "how did you adjust after leaving?

  " and asking me how they can leave the wt but keep their families.. my reply is always the same, i show real genuine interest and concern and listen to their situation.

  then i suggest a fade, how to fade, to ignore or reject elders visits, to not talk about their doubts to active jws under any circumstances and finally point them to this site.

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  He said what mattered to him was his dedication to Jehovah as if I had broken my contract by leaving. I agree with you, they've broken the contract by completely changing the wording of it.
  

  WT loophole on the "they changed the contract" is that every time you filled out a form for some "special privilege," even something as innocculous as auxiliary pioneering, you were agreeing with supporting the GB. It was on the bottom of every application. If you became an MS or elder, you were agreeing with the updated contract (new light). Saying all that, their rules. When we don't play by their rules, they can do what they want. And we can do what we want, but with known consequences of our choosing freedom. We lose so- called friends. No real loss if we are logical. Losing JW blood relatves, that is a loss, but we are better off ultimately. Logically we know this. Emotionally it sucks

  Snakes (Rich)
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  End of sentences appear to be cut off

  by deegee in

  1. forum
  2. tech-support

  on about 2 occasions after uploading my comment, i noted that the end of sentences appear to be cut off.

  this is what i see i don't know if my post also appears that way to others.. this seems to happen especially when long urls/web addresses are included in my post.. i always select the "full screen" icon from the menu at the top of the comment box in order to view my comment in full screen mode so as to make sure that all of the information is visible, yet, on uploading my comment, the end of sentences appear to be cut off.. also, in order to make sure that i have included everything i want to state, i sometimes type my comment in ms word on my laptop or in a draft e-mail on my phone then copy & paste it into the comment box.

  some of these pre-typed comments have included long urls/web addresses and the end of sentences appear to be cut off in this instance as well - don't know if pre-typing my comment in a word processor and then cutting and pasting it into the thread has anything to do with the problem.. i tried to correct the situation after uploading: i used the editing feature to delete my post.

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  Don't use Word, it has hidden formatting codes. Use plain text Notepad. It uses the .txt file format, no codes. Not even sure .rtf real text files work. I often use notepad if I know I am going to post a long comment, or am writing over several sessions. Copy/paste in comment box, then format using the editor in the forum. It works for me.

  Hopefully Simon will chime in.

  Snakes
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  The Governing Body Doing The Math As Corporate CEOs

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  lett announce to his braindead indoctrinated rank and file masses the wt corporation is short on funds and so they have money problems.

  he made light of his role and the rest of management's predicament by saying on a public broadcast: "in doing the math we found that the amount of money flowing out will be much greater than the amount of money coming in at this time".

  clearly the guys on the gb have very little business sense to let things get so out of hand with tons of projects in the works and having to close all of them except for warwick, and one in england.. i have to wonder just what type of math these dead heads on the gb even know or consider when making all their plans for the future of the corporation they have leadership over.

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  • Sour Grapes
    A corporation expands from using the profits they have made. A company does not go to its workers to ask for money to expand unless some percentage of ownership is given

    Any percentage of zero is still.......ZERO. which is where WTBTS is hopefully headed.

    Snakes
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  Organizational Accomplishments - Expanded Video Production Facilities at Patterson

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnzlcngtf-8.

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  So I am torn on this video. On one hand, I acknowledge the production quality has improved tremendously since I left 10 plus years ago. Nice facilities. I would have loved this when I was still in. I am sure my JW mom does.

  On the other hand, it is a fuc#ing cult. All of that quality wasted on an inferior message.

  A for quality, Double F for message. LOL.

  Snakes
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  Being Disfellowshipped + On-Going Cycle of Depression

  by Cimarrona in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been disfellowshipped for six years, since i was 18. i struggle with depression and self-destructive habits (minor in comparison to the suicides, substance abuse, risky sexual behavior of others i've grown up with who have left or were too afraid to leave).

  i'm fairly successful for my age - respected in my field, i have an extensive curriculum vitae of published writing, presentations, and other projects.

  yet, i often feel worthless and unloveable.

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  David Burns Author Page on Amazon
  
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  The Feeling Good Handbook -- by David Burns

  by Billy the Ex-Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my psychiatrist recommended this book, the feeling good handbook by david d. burns, md, to me a couple years ago.

  this book has been mentioned on the forum several times before, but i thought i found some things threadworthy in it.

  it's a big book of 732 pages.

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  David Burns Author Page on Amazon

  Link to many of his books
  
  
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  All this speculation.....

  by pontoon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's mine... wat corp is flush with money.

  there product is a hope--obey us and god might let you live.

  gb knows they can say and change beliefs,doctrine, twist scripture without losing more then they gain.

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  GB and Co. are stocking money away like squirrels shocking away acorns for the winter. One day, my 73 yr. Old mom will be watching JW dot you know what reruns on autopilot while the GB etc al are sipping Pina coladas in St. Helena.

  Snakes
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  The Trinity Easily Explained in 29 Words

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a man can be a father .

  a man can be a son.

  a man can be a husband.

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  I feel bad for Farter Bet he got his ass kicked a lot in school.

  Snakes
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  October 1, 2017 TO ALL BOE IN NIGERIA Re: Local Needs For the Week of October 16-22

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  october 1, 2017 to all bodies of elders in nigeria re: local needs for the week of october 16-22.

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  SnakesInTheTower

  Education in Africa is culturally important, what better way to get money than elevate donating to the same level as paying school fees, which in Nigeria, can be exorbitant. Google it, I did.

  Watch for similar letters customized by local branches for local J dubs.

  Snakes
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  Were You Ever SHOCKED That Someone Got Appointed As An Elder?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember some men getting appointed and wondering what the hell were they thinking???.

  likewise when i came to someone being appointed a presiding overeer or whatever they are called now!

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  I was shocked to ever be appointed, let alone twice. Holy Spirit, HA!

  Growing up a Jw, I was encouraged to reach out, and I wanted to be an elder, I wanted to help people. But I grew up in the congregation. Certain elders fought against me being appointed every step of the way. I almost was in 1991, got jc reproof for lying, a BS charge from some jealous Pioneers and their MS husbands. Set me back a few years.

  Switched congos, same KH. MS again, pioneering, could never get appointed or get approved for MTS. Especially one older elder hated my guts. A new CO, MTS grad, came through, liked me, got me appointed elder and into MTS IN 2002.

  Fast forward, I leave my assignment for health reasons after a short stint. Move to nearby Congo, NORMALLY would have been automatic reappointment for an MTS grad. Nope. Elder in that hall conspired with an elder in my MTS assignment hall ( who felt threatened by the MTS guys) and my original KH, by the same elder who held me up....took 10 months to be reappointed, had to postpone multiple public talk requests and circuit assignments.

  It only took another 4 years, in 2006, for them to boot me off as an elder. Fought with me every damn week. I could have won procedurally against them, but why? By then, I was here, TTATT had opened my eyes. I left 8 months later, never looked back.

  Funny, not one of those MFers are elders now. LOL

  Snakes