Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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Have you ever gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

by stuckinarut2 in

just wondering if anyone has gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

(perhaps to an area far from your old khall where you know no one).

with all the changes from 2012 onwards (videos, tv screens, new meeting format, new songs etc) it would be an odd experience to be in attendance!.

SnakesInTheTower

My last meeting was a Sunday in August ( I think) 2007. Stayed only for the PT. Left right after, breathed a sigh of relief, I hadn't been in a couple of months during the remodel. Went because a friend gave the PT and I wanted to see the final look of the KH.

Afterwards I drove up the road to a cemetery, changed out of my suit into work clothes, and NEVER went back. Not for one of my closest friends funeral, nothing.

My never JW wife has said let's go out of curiosity. Nope. My JW mom said no funeral when she dies, and her nonJW husband won't do it, so no issues.

Snakes

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What to Do....Please Help. Awakening JW for a very long time

by CovertsadJW in

good afternoon , .

i have been having doubts for many years and as most jw's i have certainly not done myself a favor by suppressing all of my critical thinking.

i am married with 3 kids and my wife and i are inactive, but my wife has made it very clear in speech and action that she wants to go to all meetings, field service, and indoctrinate our kids.

SnakesInTheTower

OP...

I grew up in the JW cult... age 4 to age 41. I was in deep as a single elder with lots of responsibilities. I started having doubts in 1991, but buried them. In 2002 I attended the 8 week MTS. There the scales fell from my eyes, as I seen the hypocritical behavior and speech of men who were supposed to be the "cewam of the crop", but it was another 5 years in 07 before I left for good.

I give that brief history [many here know how long winded I can be], to show that it can take years, or decades, for someone to be ready to leave the cult. I knew something was fishy. It took an ethics class in college in 06 to push me out for good.

I cannot imagine going through the mental turmoil you are going through having a JW wife and young kids. It was difficult enough being single. BUT DO NOT GIVE UP ON HER. More importantly, DO NOT GIVE UP ON YOURSELF.

If you figure out happiness and live it, it will sink in, if she really wants it.

Ultimately, protect yourself and the kids. Good luck

Snakes (Rich)

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CO's talk on loyalty

by Rattigan350 in

the circuit overseer this week on tuesday gave a talk on loyalty to jehovah.

i listed 5 points.

i only remember 3.. one was the typical association with disfellowshipped relatives, the next was loyalty to friends over jehovah by not reporting wrongdoing to elders.

SnakesInTheTower

BTW, I met one JW who was an MS in Jacksonville, FL (actually Ponte Verde Beach) who was a PGA golfer, also designed courses. Bet WTBTS liked his donations.... Mark McCumber, nice fella.

Snakes

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CO's talk on loyalty

by Rattigan350 in

the circuit overseer this week on tuesday gave a talk on loyalty to jehovah.

i listed 5 points.

i only remember 3.. one was the typical association with disfellowshipped relatives, the next was loyalty to friends over jehovah by not reporting wrongdoing to elders.

SnakesInTheTower

I knew many elders and a couple of COs that were avid golfers.

I also heard quite a few stories when I was attending MTS and from fellow elders who sat on JCs for couples that were wife swapping, orgies, and swingers. Instant DF. lol

None of this surprises me.

Snakes

25

Hello

by John Doe in

jw
friends

i used to post on this site years ago.

then, my login quit working.

haven't been here in a long time.

SnakesInTheTower

Hi JD.

I probably wouldn't think much about JW stuff either, except my 74 year old mom is still a dub. I post much less than when I first started.

Snakes (Rich)

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The watchtower does not have the resources

by pepperheart in

if you have a look at the december broadcast on jw tv they tell you that they wont be showing you a normal format for december but the 143rd event of gilead because the watchtower does not have the resources other wise to translate it many different lanuages.. with all the cuts the watchtower have made and are going to make you would have thought that they would have lots of resources.

SnakesInTheTower

I have a better idea.

D O N 'T W A T C H A N Y O F I T

Snakes

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Hi, all...I'm a faithful JW who is sick of lies about us

by James Donalds in

i was baptized 30 years ago and have been in the faith for over 35 years.. our organization isn't perfect.

but i'm sick to death of seeing stereotypes about us.

we are not mindless automatons.

SnakesInTheTower

You are either a fuc#ing troll, or worse, a fuc$ing hypocrite.

If you are a JW in so-called "good standing" in your congregation, and yet do things that, out here in the real world are normal, but make you "bad association" as a JW, then you are a hypocrite.

Smoking (uncleanness), voting (not neutral), on a known apostate website (bad association), getting a Masters Degree (not listening to the counsel about education from your precious Governing Body, some of those cocky assholes I have personally met....Left, Herd. )

Either way, you are wasting our time and yours. Give that Uncle Tom Sam Herd and Rubber Face Steve Lett my love....not.

Snakes (Rich)

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And finally I'm out

by Skepsis in

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friends

hi all.. it's being a while that i don't share in the forum.

after moving to another country and finding a job, i asked my congregation in my country to send my publishing card here.

once i did it, i stopped attending meetings.

SnakesInTheTower

Skepsis, I went back and looked at all of your posts. I forgot I commented on your thread once. What an interesting journey.

Snakes(Rich)

20

And finally I'm out

by Skepsis in

jw
friends

hi all.. it's being a while that i don't share in the forum.

after moving to another country and finding a job, i asked my congregation in my country to send my publishing card here.

once i did it, i stopped attending meetings.

SnakesInTheTower

Skepsis....

That is excellent! Even better that you left as an MS. Leave them scratching their collective heads.

Snakes (Rich)

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You may PRETEND to care - in reality you are SELFISH!

by wannabefree in

that;s what my wife (and all jw's) gets to hear about us at the kingdom hall today, (hmmmm, i wonder if she'll raise her hand to answer this one) ... .

watchtower study ... today, apostates and others who create divisions in the congregation use “smooth talk and flattering speech.” (romans 16:17, 18) they may pretend to care about others, but in reality, they are selfish.. (the watchtower - study edition (simplified version) 10/17 page 4 paragraph 7).

SnakesInTheTower

I guess I am selfish.

Fu#k em.

Snakes