how many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation?
i will admit that back in late 1970's i attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but i didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and i didn't feel like a cheerful giver.
i never attempted it again.
Funny, I never auxiliary pioneered. I jumped right into regular 90 hours a month. Did several stints. Wasted time. Also single elder, MTS, RBC volunteer, Assembly Hall volunteer. Could have had a career in IT. BIGGEST regret of my life not going to an excellent vocational school and pioneering instead.
Fuck 'em.
Snakes
it's been years since i posted here.
my jw mother died july 5th.
it was quite honestly not that emotional for me.
Hiya Noni.
Not sure if I posted condolences on your FB, but I get the whole mixed feelings in this situation. Hope you are OK. Protect your emotions and surround yourself with good people.
I hear about old JWs from my past that have died. While sad, it has been 15 years at least since I have been in contact with 99.97% of them. Call me callous, but I never shed a tear for any of them.
The cult is destructive, and when my nearly 79 year old JW mom dies, I will probably shed tears. I will visit her 12 hours away next month. But I told her, you ever try cutting me off, NEVER come back to me, even as an ex-JW. She understood. Snakes don't play.
Take care fellow werewolfer.
Snakes (Rich )
i have no idea if this is the right place to post this.
if you're just leaving the witnesses or questioning and toying with the idea of leaving..... life goes by fast.
and either you rip the band aid off and deal with it or let it fester and eat you alive.
I was having doubts around 2006, not including the Generations issue.
I was removed as an elder December 2006. Switched congregations, circuits, and states, all while not physically moving. The new congregation was only 20 minutes away. After that, stopped Book Study and FS. Then TMS.
Then our Kingdom Hall underwent renovation and scattered 5 congregations for a few months. Nobody told me anything, so I went nowhere. One random Sunday I went back and it was their first meeting back. I left after the talk...and never returned. That was August 2007. I was 40. I am now 55.
My story is elsewhere here. I have a wife now, an adopted son (now 21), a job that I work tons at. We bought our first house in 2019. Life is good. Not possible in JW land. I faded, others rip off the bandaid.
Snakes (Rich)
does anyone here know his where about or have any updates on him?
he hasn't been active his face book in over a year.
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I was able to access at least part of the old freeminds.org website on the Wayback Machine.
Hope it works. It would be nice if the ex-JW community still had this easily available.
I tried to link it here, but it doesn't work, at least not on my tablet.
I did go to that site and typed www.freeminds.org and it brought up archived pages.
Snakes
original reddit post (removed).
I have never been able to gag down Windbag Loyds' content. The guy has the gift of gab.
Not sure I would call it a gift. Booby prize maybe.
Snakes
i can see it that watchtower will become an online/tv based group with just con-vention hall$.. field service would be letter writing and phone preaching, door to door is done.. watchtower will have pay to view programs and still ask for donations after all that.. zoom meetings are here to stay.
kingdumb halls will be sold off except for con-vention venues, or need for new ones$.. df'ing will continue.
the craziness will continue.
I did not mean to hit dislike on LHGs post. I fixed it.. LOL.. Typing on a tablet.
I completely agree. If I were still in and still an elder, I would resent the pressure to appoint 20 year old "elders." Back when I was growing up (baptized 1983), you had to "progress" and be in your 30s before being an elder. Late 20s was rare and usually in a small congregation.
What the actual fxck does a 20 year old know about ANYthing?
Except that the religion is about NOTHING now. Just another Participation Trophy and a Fuc#ing Gold Spiritual Star.
Snakes
some sensible advice presented in a rational way.
check out the channel.. a couple of the videos i've watched so far:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgzdy-tghiq.
I would hope the internet is slowing the influx of new cult members and expediting the outflow of old members.
My 78 year old JW mom is never leaving. It is all she has as a recent widow. Her ex-JW husband, my step-dad, was her only real link to the world outside JW, and now he is gone. The cult gives her reason to exist. Sad.
She lives in an isolated area in the South (US), but she still drives, even 4 hours to Atlanta to see my brother. Still mows part of her lawn with a push mower. Still active physically and mentally.
So we still talk often, I don't try to convince her, and she doesn't me.
Snakes
several files in the folder including:.
2022-april-elders manual.. 2022 april addendum.
working together safely12 files total.
Atlantis
I always appreciate you providing the files.
I don't have time in my post-JW life to read them as much as when I first walked away. But my 78 yr old mom is still a JW, so nice to know what is being fed to her. I keep an eye on her, making sure she is not giving too much to the Borg. LOL.
Gentleman Jack and Coke used to be my goto. Cheers
Snakes ( Rich )
what is the harm or downside of being pimo?.
i get all the good things about being in the cong, good social life lots of invites to bbqs and meals out.
lots of interesting gossip 🤣🤣🤣🤣.
Smiddy
I was a PIMO elder. I lurked here for awhile at first.
FS, I mostly played chauffeur to older ones on their magazine routes, even when I was a regular Pioneer. I was the no pressure elder, D2D I did the slow walk, worked by myself so other in the car group wouldn't have to.
Talks, I made them my own. As a MTS grad, I knew what I could get by with. After being removed as an elder, I changed congos, faded 8 months, and stopped going.
The mental toll of being PIMO was not healthy. I could have fought the elder removal, and it was BS, but it was a relief and made fading easier. Never was DF. LOL
Snakes
i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.
https://jw.watch.
please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..
Simon
Excellent idea, key word is curated.
Not allowing comments will cut down on moderating time.
This site was key to me leaving as a lurking PIMO elder.
I think the exit stories should be a cornerstone.
Snakes (Rich)
