Freemindfade,
But, as the latest June JW TV episode showed, and as many shows on television and movies portray, a lot of people convert to religion in prison when they are visited by prison missionaries.
Couldn't that be a big factor?
i have no problem saying atheists and christians are equal.. but some people seem to have the belief that atheists are more likely to be morally good, or more likely to change the world for good, than christians and theists.. but what evidence do you have to support this claim?.
if atheism is what causes people to do great positive things for the world, then why weren't martin luther king, jr., william wilberforce, isaac newton, francis collins, barack obama, mother theresa, abraham lincoln, or john f. kennedy atheists?.
Freemindfade,
But, as the latest June JW TV episode showed, and as many shows on television and movies portray, a lot of people convert to religion in prison when they are visited by prison missionaries.
Couldn't that be a big factor?
i have no problem saying atheists and christians are equal.. but some people seem to have the belief that atheists are more likely to be morally good, or more likely to change the world for good, than christians and theists.. but what evidence do you have to support this claim?.
if atheism is what causes people to do great positive things for the world, then why weren't martin luther king, jr., william wilberforce, isaac newton, francis collins, barack obama, mother theresa, abraham lincoln, or john f. kennedy atheists?.
Fascinating comments :)
I've seen several evolutionists and scientists before say that religion evolved to help human beings survive better.
i have no problem saying atheists and christians are equal.. but some people seem to have the belief that atheists are more likely to be morally good, or more likely to change the world for good, than christians and theists.. but what evidence do you have to support this claim?.
if atheism is what causes people to do great positive things for the world, then why weren't martin luther king, jr., william wilberforce, isaac newton, francis collins, barack obama, mother theresa, abraham lincoln, or john f. kennedy atheists?.
I'm sure Mother Theresa wasn't perfect and did many things that might not be considered good by some, but here is a quote from Wikipedia:
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In 1952, Mother Teresa opened the first Home for the Dying in space made available by the city of Calcutta (Kolkata). With the help of Indian officials she converted an abandoned Hindu temple into the Kalighat Home for the Dying, a free hospice for the poor. She renamed it Kalighat, the Home of the Pure Heart (Nirmal Hriday).[44] Those brought to the home received medical attention and were afforded the opportunity to die with dignity, according to the rituals of their faith; Muslims were read the Quran, Hindus received water from the Ganges, and Catholics received the Last Rites.[45] "A beautiful death," she said, "is for people who lived like animals to die like angels—loved and wanted."[45]
Mother Teresa soon opened a home for those suffering from Hansen's disease, commonly known as leprosy, and called the hospice Shanti Nagar (City of Peace).[46] The Missionaries of Charity also established several leprosy outreach clinics throughout Calcutta, providing medication, bandages and food.[47]
As the Missionaries of Charity took in increasing numbers of lost children, Mother Teresa felt the need to create a home for them. In 1955 she opened the Nirmala Shishu Bhavan, the Children's Home of the Immaculate Heart, as a haven for orphans and homeless youth.[48]
i have no problem saying atheists and christians are equal.. but some people seem to have the belief that atheists are more likely to be morally good, or more likely to change the world for good, than christians and theists.. but what evidence do you have to support this claim?.
if atheism is what causes people to do great positive things for the world, then why weren't martin luther king, jr., william wilberforce, isaac newton, francis collins, barack obama, mother theresa, abraham lincoln, or john f. kennedy atheists?.
I have no problem saying atheists and Christians are EQUAL.
But some people seem to have the belief that atheists are MORE likely to be morally good, or MORE likely to change the world for good, than Christians and theists.
But what evidence do you have to support this claim?
If atheism is what causes people to do great positive things for the world, then why weren't Martin Luther King, Jr., William Wilberforce, Isaac Newton, Francis Collins, Barack Obama, Mother Theresa, Abraham Lincoln, or John F. Kennedy atheists?
it is time for christians to accept evolution, in my opinion.. there are many reasons why i think it is long overdue for all christians to finally accept what science says about evolution.
below i will show these reasons.. .
the bible tells people to pay attention to nature to see the glory of god (psalm 19; romans 1:19-20).
But why are atheists still following the Golden Rule and Galatians 3:28?
Why haven't you invented a better moral system than those two Scriptures?
How did uneducated fishermen 2,000 years ago teach the two greatest moral ideas, which you still abide by now?
Also, why was it Christians who abolished slavery and segregation instead of atheists?
it is time for christians to accept evolution, in my opinion.. there are many reasons why i think it is long overdue for all christians to finally accept what science says about evolution.
below i will show these reasons.. .
the bible tells people to pay attention to nature to see the glory of god (psalm 19; romans 1:19-20).
Let's go one hypothetical step farther:
For the sake of argument, let's say Jesus never actually existed, but First-Century Jews invented Him and used His story as a parable.
It's been 2,000 years, and atheists are STILL using the moral principles and values espoused in this "mythological parable."
Atheists still haven't come up with a better moral system than the Golden Rule or the total equality found in Galatians 3:28.
it is time for christians to accept evolution, in my opinion.. there are many reasons why i think it is long overdue for all christians to finally accept what science says about evolution.
below i will show these reasons.. .
the bible tells people to pay attention to nature to see the glory of god (psalm 19; romans 1:19-20).
Doltologist,
I'll check out Richard Carrier.
There's still that nagging question about WHY 99% of historians BEFORE this totally atheist blogger and author said Jesus was a real person.
What did all of those historians screw up on that caused them to believe Jesus existed? What did they get wrong?
And if we can't believe Jesus was a real person, why should we believe ANYONE from the history books was a real person?
it is time for christians to accept evolution, in my opinion.. there are many reasons why i think it is long overdue for all christians to finally accept what science says about evolution.
below i will show these reasons.. .
the bible tells people to pay attention to nature to see the glory of god (psalm 19; romans 1:19-20).
Doltologist,
Well, we can start with this: Are there any professional historians who say Jesus and Paul were not real people who existed?
Even highly skeptical Bart Ehrman, and the very skeptical Jesus Seminar people said that Jesus was a real person who existed.
I've never heard any scholar, expert, historian, or even atheist, doubt the existence of Paul.
it is time for christians to accept evolution, in my opinion.. there are many reasons why i think it is long overdue for all christians to finally accept what science says about evolution.
below i will show these reasons.. .
the bible tells people to pay attention to nature to see the glory of god (psalm 19; romans 1:19-20).
opusdei1972,
How do we know Jesus or the disciples viewed Adam as a literal person who actually existed?
Jesus always spoke in parables. A parable is a fictional story with fictional characters and is used to teach deeper moral truths.
Since Jesus was so accustomed to speaking about fictional characters, why should we assume that when it came to Adam, He must have viewed him as literal?
Plus, in Galatians, Paul says Sarah and Hagar are allegorical characters foreshadowing the two groups in his day:
1. Early Christians.
2. Jews who opposed Christians.
It was common for First-Century Christians to interpret the Old Testament as allegory.
the revised nwt has a footnote on john 1:1 showing that "a god" means "divine.".
also, their other publications are now much more boldly referring to jesus as divine:.
jesus--the way, the life, the truth (2015), page 306-307:.
The Revised NWT has a footnote on John 1:1 showing that "a god" means "divine."
Also, their other publications are now much more boldly referring to Jesus as divine:
Jesus--The Way, The Life, The Truth (2015), Page 306-307:
"Thomas exclaims:'My Lord and my God!' (John 20:26-28) Yes, he now has no doubts that Jesus is alive as a divine being who is Jehovah God’s representative."
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Awake, April 22, 2005, Page 9:
Jesus is a god in the sense of being divine