Posts by Alpaca

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Food at the Proper Time

by Alpaca in

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ya' know....as i listen to the great music of my youth from the 60s & 70s ... i've reached the inescapable conclusion that the "food at the proper time" came from simon & garfunkel, the grateful dead, jimi hendrix, led zeppelin, pete seeger, bob dylan, hot tuna, steve winwood and hundreds of other incredible musical philosophers!!!

i can honestly say that my life has been enriched.. i am barreling toward 70 years on this planet and i still get goose bumps listening to the music & lyrics that perfectly capture life's eternal truths.

at that time in my life i had "one foot in the world" spent a lot of time listening to that classic music with "worldly" friends who were there for me when i finally walked out of the fog of dubdom in the late 1990's.

Alpaca

Ya' know....as I listen to the great music of my youth from the 60s & 70s ... I've reached the inescapable conclusion that the "food at the proper time" came from Simon & Garfunkel, the Grateful Dead, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Pete Seeger, Bob Dylan, Hot Tuna, Steve Winwood and hundreds of other incredible musical philosophers!!! I can honestly say that my life has been enriched.

I am barreling toward 70 years on this planet and I still get goose bumps listening to the music & lyrics that perfectly capture life's eternal truths. At that time in my life I had "one foot in the world" spent a lot of time listening to that classic music with "worldly" friends who were there for me when I finally walked out of the fog of Dubdom in the late 1990's. I am grateful.

Maybe some of you can relate. It's a long story....

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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

by pale.emperor in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

Alpaca

The BORG's denial of responsibility in the face of the mountain of printed and spoken/recorded evidence makes my blood boil.

I was a teenager in 1975 when all of this nonsense happened. But, I hung in there into the late 1990s until I could just no longer lie to myself anymore and had to leave.

It looks as thoughI will never catch up and will never be able to retire. I will die working because i foolishly bought into their lies and deception.

However, in the end, I accept responsibility for not thinking for myself. It doesn't do any good to be bitter. I am at peace and I am happy.

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After leaving what did you Major in?

by Luther bertrand in

i am curious if my observations are correct.

i noticed alot of exjws end up majoring in the social sciences.

i am also interested in what educational choices people have made either while fading or while completely out.

Alpaca

Everyone loves a good story. Geology grabbed me because it is greatest story ever of the earth and all of the life that has ever existed on it. Geology, B.S., Geology, M.S., followed by a J.D.

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Captcha is not working consistently

by Alpaca in

after identifying/choosing the appropriate pictures/photos the verify button does not respond.

the captcha screen just sits there.

it has been taking multiple attempts to be able to finally sign in.

Alpaca

After identifying/choosing the appropriate pictures/photos the verify button does not respond. The Captcha screen just sits there. It has been taking multiple attempts to be able to finally sign in.

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September 24, 2014 BOE

by wifibandit in

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Alpaca

I think we are witnessing (haha) the wind up for the long speculated (on this forum) 2034 pitch. Ths BORG thrives on setting dates. That's about 20 years away...roughly the same span of time during which they hyped 1975.

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Carl Sagan Quotation

by Mum in

the scientific mind can hone in on some great, but sometimes obvious facts.

i love this one:.

one of the saddest lessons of history is this: if we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.

Alpaca

This one is even better. This topic has come here numerous times in the past but I couldn't quickly find the posts. Anyway, here it is:

Carl Sagan's Remarks About Jehovah's Witnesses False Prophecies

Alan Feuerbacher

A few years after the complete collapse of everything C. T. Russell had predicted, J. F. Rutherford began a process of replacing Russell's unfulfilled predictions with a series of invisible and spiritual events associated with the years 1914 and 1918. By the early 1930s the process was complete.

An interesting comment on this transformation was made by Carl Sagan in his book Broca's Brain (New York: Ballantine Books, 1979, pp. 332-333):

Doctrines that make no predictions are less compelling than those which make correct predictions; they are in turn more successful than doctrines that make false predictions.

But not always. One prominent American religion confidently predicted that the world would end in 1914. Well, 1914 has come and gone, and -- while the events of that year were certainly of some importance -- the world does not, at least so far as I can see, seem to have ended. There are at least three responses that an organized religion can make in the face of such a failed and fundamental prophecy. They could have said, "Oh, did we say '1914'? So sorry, we meant '2014.' A slight error in calculation. Hope you weren't inconvenienced in any way." But they did not. They could have said, "Well, the world would have ended, except we prayed very hard and interceded with God so He spared the Earth." But they did not. Instead, they did something much more ingenious.

They announced that the world had in fact ended in 1914, and if the rest of us hadn't noticed, that was our lookout. It is astonishing in the face of such transparent evasions that this religion has any adherents at all. But religions are tough. Either they make no contentions which are subject to disproof or they quickly redesign doctrine after disproof. The fact that religions can be so shamelessly dishonest, so contemptuous of the intelligence of their adherents, and still flourish does not speak very well for the tough-mindedness of the believers. But it does indicate, if a demonstration were needed, that near the core of the religious experience is something remarkably resistant to rational inquiry.

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What song or line from a song bests describes your time as a JW?????

by karter in

waisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..

Alpaca

Billy Joel Stranger Lyrics Album: Greatest Hits Volume I & Volume II Lyrics:

Well we all have a face
That we hide away forever
And we take them out and show ourselves
When everyone has gone
Some are satin some are steel
Some are silk and some are leather
They're the faces of the stranger
But we love to try them on

Well, we all fall in love
But we disregard the danger
Though we share so many secrets
There are some we never tell
Why were you so surprised
That you never saw the stranger
Did you ever let your lover see
The stranger in yourself?

Don't be afraid to try again
Everyone goes south
Every now and then
You've done it, why can't someone else?
You should know by now
You've been there yourself

Once I used to believe
I was such a great romancer
Then I came home to a woman
That I could not recognize
When I pressed her for a reason
She refused to even answer
It was then I felt the stranger
Kick me right between the eyes

Well, we all fall in love
But we disregard the danger
Though we share so many secrets
There are some we never tell
Why were you so surprised
That you never saw the stranger
Did you ever let your lover see
The stranger in yourself?

Don't be afraid to try again
Everyone goes south
Every now and then
You've done it why can't someone else?
You should know by now
You've been there yourself

You may never understand
How the stranger is inspired
But he isn't always evil
And he isn't always wrong
Though you drown in good intentions
You will never quench the fire
You'll give in to your desire
When the stranger comes along.

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Where is the Statement That JWs Should Follow the GB Even If They Think They Are Wrong?

by Justitia Themis in

i am having difficulty locating the recent printed statement that jws should follow the gb even if they think they are wrong.

would someone please let me know where that is?.

jt.

Alpaca

OOPS ... I've had a Rick Perry moment. Later on, I'll see if I can figure out how to embed the vid.

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Where is the Statement That JWs Should Follow the GB Even If They Think They Are Wrong?

by Justitia Themis in

i am having difficulty locating the recent printed statement that jws should follow the gb even if they think they are wrong.

would someone please let me know where that is?.

jt.

Alpaca

An oldy but a goody for the benefit of those who haven't seen it:

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"Losing My Religion" Film Project needs help

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

passing this on from jim moon:.

subject: exjw documentaryhi everyone!.

one of my exjw friends in los angeles is developing a documentary about the jws entitled "losing my religion" and he asked me to forward information to anyone i thought might be interested in helping out with its development.

Alpaca

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