meaning:
not resorting to name calling, yelling, belittling ones religion, being able to express your ideas, etc.
also, are there any active jw forums that non/ex jws go, and preach the gospel to the jws?
Midwich wrote:"Is a person PRETENDING to be a Christian by attending meetings yet at the same time associating with 'Apostates' on a board which is condemmed by the Watchtower Org?"
Mad: Gasp! Are you an APOSTATE! (Running away in panic!)
I'm just pretending to pretend. Are you SINCERE in your pretense?
Jgnat wrote:"Hey, Mad. Those links sum up my feelings on the topic of worldwide preaching very well. They are not discussion sites or definition sites or argument sites. Both are notable organizations who are doing MORE to spread God's Word than the Witnesses. In My Humble Opinion."
Mad: Then do some humble cutting & pasting, Jgnat! ESPECIALLY if THEY are the ones doing the preaching work! Please?
The Nameless One wrote:" I gotta challenge you.
Nobody in the First Century went from house-to-house, systematically contacting
everyone with the Good News.Mad- I'd look up the scriptures to correct you- but it WOULDN'T correct you! Try READING the Bible; you'll LEARN something.
They went to cities, and preaching was done publicly. They met "in private homes" for personal study or
for their meetings, but never is there an example of Jesus or his disciples going door-to-door.
If you learn what the text means, and not just believe the NWT is always correct (it ain't), you will know this.
The context makes clear that people were contacted initially with a public preaching (marketplace or synagogue)
and continued learning, often "in private homes."
I wouldn't expect you to know that, though. I had to get away from JW thinking and literature to discover this
truth.
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Mad: Acts 20:20; Acts 20:21 (King James Version)
20- And how I kept back nothing that was profitable unto you, but have shewed you, and have taught you publicly, and from house to house, |
21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. GASP! Did he say "house to house"??????? He didn't say "In your Homes"- he said from house to house! Argue against the scriptures all you want! Mad |
Mouthy wrote:"Well I aint called MOUTHY for nothing mate... I am on all the radio stations ,Television,churches, conventions. Telling the GOOD NEWS!!!! What is that???? That the GOD of LOVE!!!! The Creator... gave us two laws,... Love God first & Your neighbour .... So I go around telling ALL >>>>that Jehovahs Witnesses are Satan Tools... Boy that is SUCH good news to be identified as the False Prophet & the Watchtower proves it by their own writings... So keep on tracking matie.....Be sure the truth will find you out....> Who IS the truth??? in the Bible ??? Mine says Jesus is the WAY,TRUTH,LIFE, What does Your say??? Oh sorry I remember it is the Religion of the Watchtower "
Mad: Well mouthy, I hope to live up to your Sarcasm- I already have your zeal! You asked:"Who IS the truth??? in the Bible ??? Mine says Jesus is the WAY,TRUTH,LIFE, What does Your say??? "
You're correct about Jesus being the truth- buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut, Jesus himself said that his Father was looking for those that would worship with Spirit & Truth. (John 4) . Paul said: 2 Timothy 2:15 (King James Version)- "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
So it's apparent that when Jesus said he WAS the truth, that it was an illustration to sum up that he represented all Truth stands for: it was his purpose, his love, his mission, his work from God!
But, I guess you'll argue about that, too! So when Paul said:"a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth", he must be describing how we must chop Christ into proper portions?.....
LOLOLOLO!
Mad
Josie wrote"
Mad: Save that for those who don't know better! I'd say YOU'RE the one they should be afraid of.
Mad, I have watched this thread for quite a while. Me thinks you think you are impressive...you're not. You're a bully. And I think that poor woman who's husband is off to war should be very afraid of you and the twisted org you stand up for.
I've said my piece and counted to three. Now insult me if you will (yeah I know you won't be able to resist) but know that I won't respond and this will be the last I ever say to you. Thank God you live nowhere close to me.
Josie
Why would I want to insult you?
Agape,
Mad
On the way out wrote:" am not a fan of personal attacks here, because I enjoy all outlooks and opinions.
That said, I gotta challenge you.
Nobody in the First Century went from house-to-house, systematically contacting
everyone with the Good News.Mad- I'd look up the scriptures to correct you- but it WOULDN'T correct you! Try READING the Bible; you'll LEARN something.
They went to cities, and preaching was done publicly. They met "in private homes" for personal study or
for their meetings, but never is there an example of Jesus or his disciples going door-to-door.
If you learn what the text means, and not just believe the NWT is always correct (it ain't), you will know this.
The context makes clear that people were contacted initially with a public preaching (marketplace or synagogue)
and continued learning, often "in private homes."
I wouldn't expect you to know that, though. I had to get away from JW thinking and literature to discover this
truth.
Mad- We are NOT "commanded" to go door-to-door. We do it because we WANT to
Yeah, I can't prove that one. I'll just let you believe that. I am confident that the average JW would be thrilled to
stop doing this work if the GB told him he could. Look how much the GB do this work. (OH, they won't tell you
their field service average, try reading IN SEARCH OF CHRISTIAN FREEDOM to find out.) But it is not a model
Christ left to follow. Read me a scripture that says Jesus went door-to-door, or one that says this was a model for
Christians.
First for last-
We try it all
Do tell how they try "it all." They had radio stations and the Photo Drama of Creation. Now get your head out of the
colporter days and tell me what they try now, other than leaving tracts and running away, mags at laundromats.
Remember- the end is imminent. Don't hold back. Lives are at stake. OR- door-to-door is to keep rank and file busy
and tired so they don't notice they are in a mind-control cult. Other more successful methods would suck the coffers dry
and allow the minions to think for themselves and enjoy their weekend off from preaching, possibly break free from the
control. Read a non-apostate book called COMBATTING CULT MIND CONTROL by Steve Hassan."
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Mad: You know better than to believe you own cop-out "Now get your head out of the
colporter days and tell me what they try now, other than leaving tracts and running away, mags at laundromats. " We're at the doors all the time- a lot of people are sick of it; I was! We just try different things from time to time!
Why read ANOTHER book on 'cults'- I've read SO many! Share the highlites with us all!
Mad
Mad: I'm reminded of what James wrote about "believing": Chapter 2: 19- " Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. "
Whay didn't you answer the question, Tophat, instead of your spiteful accusation?
Mad
Jwdaughter wrote:"Today the JWs came to our neighborhood. Ignoring all the people (most of us) who have lived here forever. We have been here ten years. The only people they visited today was the little army wife across the street whose husband is stationed in bagdad right now (ft. Lewis) I am going to have to make the trip over there to make sure she isn't vulnerable to cult indoctrination. She just had a new baby and her husband is away. She is far from her family. I would say she is a likely target for them, wouldn't you? Fortunately they have some great support for these families, but I doubt they warn them of cultists at the door preying on their vulnerabilities."
Mad: Save that for those who don't know better! I'd say YOU'RE the one they should be afraid of.
Mad
Jwdaughter wrote:"Today the JWs came to our neighborhood. Ignoring all the people (most of us) who have lived here forever. We have been here ten years. The only people they visited today was the little army wife across the street whose husband is stationed in bagdad right now (ft. Lewis) I am going to have to make the trip over there to make sure she isn't vulnerable to cult indoctrination. She just had a new baby and her husband is away. She is far from her family. I would say she is a likely target for them, wouldn't you? Fortunately they have some great support for these families, but I doubt they warn them of cultists at the door preying on their vulnerabilities.
Jwdaughter wrote:"Today the JWs came to our neighborhood. Ignoring all the people (most of us) who have lived here forever. We have been here ten years. The only people they visited today was the little army wife across the street whose husband is stationed in bagdad right now (ft. Lewis) I am going to have to make the trip over there to make sure she isn't vulnerable to cult indoctrination. She just had a new baby and her husband is away. She is far from her family. I would say she is a likely target for them, wouldn't you? Fortunately they have some great support for these families, but I doubt they warn them of cultists at the door preying on their vulnerabilities.
