Posts by Mad

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Are any of you aposates?

by KCM in

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i don't think i am an apostate, but do feel like one for being on these boards as we were always warned not to at the meetings etc.. i disagree with so many things they teach, the main thing is the blood issue....being a new auntie, i love my niece soooo much and if i were the only person that could save her, how on earth could i not?

i'd be blood guilty for not saving her!!!!!

that in my books, would be murder.. however, may be it's because i've only been away from the mtgs for a year, but i still think of it most days and although i feel i've made the right decision as nothing was making me happy in it, and obvioulsy my ex beating me and getting away with it.....i still feel a certain pull towards it and a kind of insane loyalty???.

Mad

KCM wrote: "HiI don't think I am an apostate, but do feel like one for being on these boards as we were always warned not to at the meetings etc.I disagree with so many things they teach, the main thing is the blood issue....being a new auntie, I love my niece soooo much and if I were the only person that could save her, how on earth could I not? I'd be blood guilty for not saving her!!!!! That in my books, would be murder.However, may be it's because i've only been away from the mtgs for a year, but I still think of it most days and although I feel I've made the right decision as nothing was making me happy in it, and obvioulsy my ex beating me and getting away with it.....I still feel a certain pull towards it and a kind of insane loyalty???

Anyone else feel like that? Or am I just a weirdo?

Mad writes: You certainly are no weirdo- those are natural feelings. Sounds like you were in a congregation similar to some as described in Revelation! Remember, tho- the Original Christians let themselves- AND their family with them -be torn apart by wild animals, rather than sprinkle incense to the Roman Emporer...If your "Ex" beat you- he was not a Christain in ANY sense of the word. Just don't give up praying to our Maker! You know the illustration about Opinions- many on this board are just out to insult any whom TRY to be real Christians. If you sat in a typical church and donated your money, noone would bother you!

Remember Paul's words- "Keep your eyes on the things ABOVE...NOT the things below!", KCM! Agape, the Mad Brother

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Does God mind being called the wrong name?

by Gill in

since it is a well known fact that god's name is definitely not jehovah, but this was a name only in 'operation' for the last few hundred years thanks to a catholic monk, doesn't the very jealous, bad tempered god of the ot mind being called, in effect, 'fred' when his real name is 'george'.. i would think that call anyone by a knowingly incorrect name is rude, rude, rude, so how does this bad tempered, psycopathic, mass murdering god of the ot feel about this transgression on the part of the wtbts/jehovah's witnesses!!????.

not too pleased, i would guess!.

Mad

MsMcducket wrote: "Remember what we use to preach about Jesus's Birthday? "How would you like it if someone celebrated your birthday on the wrong day?"It doesn't bother Jehovah to be called the wrong name, but it bothers Jesus that his birthday is celebrated on the wrong day?

Give me a break!

Mad writes: Sounds like you NEED one! Here's two-

Break 1: Jesus Birthday? Wisk out Santa & the tree- that will be SURE to please him!

Break 2: You said "Jehovah"! Wash your mouth out with soap, then start calling Him by the endearing 'name' of "Lord", "God", or "Jesus"- as everyone else does....

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Does God mind being called the wrong name?

by Gill in

since it is a well known fact that god's name is definitely not jehovah, but this was a name only in 'operation' for the last few hundred years thanks to a catholic monk, doesn't the very jealous, bad tempered god of the ot mind being called, in effect, 'fred' when his real name is 'george'.. i would think that call anyone by a knowingly incorrect name is rude, rude, rude, so how does this bad tempered, psycopathic, mass murdering god of the ot feel about this transgression on the part of the wtbts/jehovah's witnesses!!????.

not too pleased, i would guess!.

Mad

Poppers wrote: "It seems to be that "god" would only need a name if there were other gods, so you could distinquish one god from another"

Mad writes: Names do FAR more than just identy, Popper. THINK about it...

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Does God mind being called the wrong name?

by Gill in

since it is a well known fact that god's name is definitely not jehovah, but this was a name only in 'operation' for the last few hundred years thanks to a catholic monk, doesn't the very jealous, bad tempered god of the ot mind being called, in effect, 'fred' when his real name is 'george'.. i would think that call anyone by a knowingly incorrect name is rude, rude, rude, so how does this bad tempered, psycopathic, mass murdering god of the ot feel about this transgression on the part of the wtbts/jehovah's witnesses!!????.

not too pleased, i would guess!.

Mad

Bonezz wrote: "You are right on! I used to always get irritated when they would make fun of other religions who just called him, "God." In reality that was more respectful than calling him by, most likely, the wrong name. As humans I think most of us would rather be called "Mister" or "Sir" than some made up name..in fact it wouldn't make any sense. I used to argue with my elder study masters about that. They would always repy that the Israelites called him by a name and so should we. I would drive them nuts because I would tell them if He wanted to be called by a name then why didn't He give us a name instead of a crypto-puzzle? Why was it allowed to be lost? Of course they would just mumble about my lack of spirituality. "

Mad writes: It's a 'crypto-puzzle' only to those who don't WANT to understand. Sounds like you drove YOURSELF nuts, instead!

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Does God mind being called the wrong name?

by Gill in

since it is a well known fact that god's name is definitely not jehovah, but this was a name only in 'operation' for the last few hundred years thanks to a catholic monk, doesn't the very jealous, bad tempered god of the ot mind being called, in effect, 'fred' when his real name is 'george'.. i would think that call anyone by a knowingly incorrect name is rude, rude, rude, so how does this bad tempered, psycopathic, mass murdering god of the ot feel about this transgression on the part of the wtbts/jehovah's witnesses!!????.

not too pleased, i would guess!.

Mad

Carla wrote: "Would a jw be offended if you decided to change his name?"

Mad writes: No. Call me whatever you wish- I'm sure you will anyhow! My name is Mike. If, upon returning to visit aquaintances made years ago in, say, Mexico- and they called me Miguel, Mik, Mikka, Moka, Muke- WHATEVER, I would be honored they would remember my name no matter how off it might be. I guess you don't use the name JESUS- do you, Curly?

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How is the Good News going to be preached Earthwide- if it's not by JWS?

by Mad in

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NVR wrote: " Jehovah's Witnesses are irrelevant. They are a non-factor in human society, just one more in a long line of post-millenial Protestant groups. They are far less consequential as an organization than they are indoctrinated to believe by their leadership.

Having said that, the org. has affected thousands who have, due to parental upbringing, savvy recruitment campaigns, etc. found themselves involved in a high-control group difficult to exit. For that reason, JWD exists."

Mad writes: You may be right as far as "They are far less consequential as an organization"- but on nothing else. If you REALLY think it's difficult to exit- then Evolution just might be true! (That WAS sarcasm!)

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How is the Good News going to be preached Earthwide- if it's not by JWS?

by Mad in

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Doug wrote: "JWs have not been told what God's "Good News" is and they have not been told what God's "Kingdom" is. They have been fed the line that the good news is about a government.

Mad writes: At least you were smart enough to avoid putting your OTHER foot into your mouth by saying anything more, Doug!

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How is the Good News going to be preached Earthwide- if it's not by JWS?

by Mad in

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Jgnat wrote: "I don't know how much clearer I can be. I believe the Gideons and the distributors of the Jesus film are doing a far better (in volume and quality) in sharing the good news than the JW's."

Mad writes: Thanks for finally answering the question- but now I'm sorry I asked! I thought you FAR more intelligent than THAT, Jgnat. ( That was NOT sarcasm.)

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How is the Good News going to be preached Earthwide- if it's not by JWS?

by Mad in

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OntheWayOut wrote: "They did go to the synagogues in each city, and the marketplace. If you want to say they went door-to-door, because they went into the private homes of those who invited them in, or went to private homes to have meetings instead of the synagogue, then fine. They went from the synagogue or marketplace with someone who invited them into their home, and went from his door to the door of someone else who had asked them to stop in for an exchange of the good news.SO- they did not bypass the door itself, and they did go from leaving one door to arriving at another.That's quite a bit different from the door-to-door salesmen of the WTS that knock at every door to wake up strangers on Saturday morning, asking them if they would like to read the WT and Awake or have a home bible study. When the Bible says "house to house" or "in private homes" the context of the discussion reveals that this was the private part of a public/private ministry. If you want to go door-to-door, the bible doesn't condemn you, and if you don't want to go, that's okay too. JW's tell people that only JW's will survive Armageddon. Only door-to-door salespeople of the WT and Awake can become JW's. Therefore, if you want to survive, if you want God's forgiveness of your sins-
you MUST go door-to-door. I still think you know all this, and are using pretend ignorance to goad comments. That's alright.I enjoy the process.

Mad writes: Outstanding, OTWO! I enjoy the process. too ( Altho I don't pretend- I resort to SARCASM!) !

I actually AGREE with you! What you don't seem to understand is that we WANT to go from door-to-door. We WANT to reach as many as possible.

Consider what Acts * says- Acts 8 (King James Version)

1- And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.

2- And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him.

3- As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

4- Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

5- Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.

Notice verse 4? They preached EVERYWHERE. They didn't wait till they found a city with a synagogue! Know of any such place today? Modern synagogues won't let you OR I come in and preach. And we JWs ALREADY preach (or hold our magazines up-yeesh!) in the 'marketplaces'!

Bottom line: If Christ really IS your Lord, King & Savior- you will actually OBEY his commands, which included preaching the Good News - and not JUST to synagogues! If our coming to your door disturbs you so much- DON'T answer it- HIDE as most do! LOLOLOLO! (Pardon my 'pretend ignorance!)

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If the bible is from God then explain this!

by Anti-Christ in

nu 31:17-18 moses, following the lord's command, orders the israelites to kill all the midianite male children and "... every woman who has known man ...." (note: how would it be determined which women had known men?

one can only speculate.

dt 21:10-13 with the lord's approval, the israelites are allowed to take "beautiful women" from the enemy camp to be their captive wives.

Mad

LtCommand wrote: "Have you noticed that there has not been one single attempt to justify anything that was mentioned so far? You know what that indicates to me?A: Plenty of Christians have an answer but have no desire to stand up for their gods name.B: Not a single Christian happened to click on this topic.Or C: Lots of Christians have read this topic, but not one of them can think of a single justification.I'm a little disapointed that nobody has anything to say in the bible's defence. I was kind of looking forward to it.

Mad writes: Don't be diasppointed; a lot of people actually HAVE a life, and don't spend every waking hour reading these endless posts. Ask ME your questions, oh Humble One! ( Just allow me a few days to get back to your posting- or e-mail me at [email protected] - the address I use to collect spam!) I enjoy playing your games!