Posts by saywhat29

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You guys would understand: How do you do this Festivus/Christmas crap

by saywhat29 in

okay so i try to explain this to 'wordly' people and they just blink but i still do not get this christmas stuff.

at work i have managers and coworkers who got me gifts and i'm trying to think if i should get them gifts as well.

do i get the people who gave me a gift a gift?

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UC: the problem is I feel like I have to work at the last minute to get folks stuff who've gotten me stuff because I never planned on doing it and am spending a little over my budet because of it. I want them to know that I care about them because I do and I *could* get them gifts and I feel a little selfish becaue I haven't and never thought about it either.

again I rarely got gifts so I have this nasty selfhish habits of buying myself gifts. I'm not saying my family never got me anything bcause they did but I've always treated myself on my birthdays and around this time... am I the only one?

Thetrueone: It's not that it's a religious holday, its the fact that people around me who I care about have gotten me something and I haven't thought about them when I could have. I'm not offended since I got something I really liked and another gift I really needed. And I just want to say thank you and feel kinda wkward since I'm not use to it or how to go about it now.

HappyGuy: I'm not worried or losing my mind about it but it's just one of those things I feel I should know that I don't. It's like driving stick shift... I should 'know' how to drive stick shift in my mind but I can't. Don't know why that is but that's how I feel. And I shouldn't be at my age trying to figure out something simple that children easily understand.

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You guys would understand: How do you do this Festivus/Christmas crap

by saywhat29 in

okay so i try to explain this to 'wordly' people and they just blink but i still do not get this christmas stuff.

at work i have managers and coworkers who got me gifts and i'm trying to think if i should get them gifts as well.

do i get the people who gave me a gift a gift?

saywhat29

Okay so I try to explain this to 'wordly' people and they just blink but I still do not get this Christmas stuff. At work I have managers and coworkers who got me gifts and I'm trying to think if I should get them gifts as well. Do I get the people who gave me a gift a gift? if I don't, will they take offense? Do I buy them items around the same price as my gift and if I don't will they think I spent too litle or too much?

I can't wrap to save my life. I'm serious too- I just asked someone else to wrap for me and I was just gonna take my gift and saran wrap the gift until half the roll was gone.

I had a coworker who seemed a little annoyed that I got her a gift just because she got me a gift and told me I didn't hve to do that but how could I not?

Again, I'm not big on this holiday. You do go from believing Jehovah is watching you when you play the five finger jive to a atheist and 'do Christmas, right? I mean I get its a commercialized holiday like any other and hardly has any connotations to God, Jesus, or any holy baby born in a barn anymore...

But its like, when in Rome, you know?

So how do you all deal around this time? I've never celebrated Christmas before so I'm kinda clueless and I feeel weird because I'm a grown man who can't 'do' a holiday... I mean how many weird looks can you get from people when you say you can't wrap a gift when well you've never been given a gift that was wrapped?

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Many advices are needed! No prudes are allowed here, please. Thank you!

by asilentone in

well, let me tell you about my experience in dating a married woman about a year ago or so, i was dating a married woman, she did not tell me that she was married, but i found about it and i told her that i know that she is married, then she decided not to see me.

she is really hot.

well recently, i learned that my recent date is actually married, but she is also really hot, should i keep my mouth shut not telling her that i know that she is married, so i can keep the relationship with her, i would not mind because i really like her..

saywhat29

Cheating is wrong period. It hurts to have it done to you. If you want to mess around, you should be honest about it. In this new age of polyamory/polygamy/open relationships and marriages... if people are cheating its because they don't have the balls to be honest.

am I saying there is never a reason to cheat? Eh... I hear of some stories of epople who have sexless marriages..people who love them enough not to leave but are human and get neds met elsewhere. So, you don't necessarily have to be a ho. However, I think you have to be honest about said person's character to cheat on their spouse.

You know if her husband ever found out how much that would hurt and you can never be flippant and go, "That's not my problem" bcause in a drunken rage he could be at your door and become are serious problem.

You're a grown man and you're going to do what you're going to do. If you didn't want to date married women the you could easily say no. Hell, you could easily hit it once and move on but you choose to make a relationship with them when you know how they feel about relationships (i.e. when things aren't easily look else where and lie about it).

Le sigh. Never treat your relationship with these woman as if tis free of this other man because you are usually together because of said guy to begin with... think about if she were single, would she really be that interested?

I'm not going to 'judge' you morally but I think you and the other lady in here are making a mistake by being with people who are involved (and aren't honest with their partners). You may not be the culprit, but its like your the Door man to the Heartbreak Hotel.

So not cool. think about if that was you...

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Was Lot a Total Ignoramus?

by cameo-d in

if this town of sodom was *supposedly* all homosexuals..... why would lot throw his virgin daughters out to them when the crowd came to his house?.

were these girls ugly and needed help with make-up or finding their colors?.

why would lot think that homosexuals would be happy having the company of his virgin daughters?.

saywhat29

Thats not the real issue. I want someone to tell me how you can get so wasted after watching you spouse become a pillar of salt that you bang your daughters! I'm gonna need someone to break that down to me nice and slow.

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What advice would you give your 16 yr oil dself.

by scotsman in

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Kid, stop dancing around to Janet jackson so much and go play football or somethin' productive that involves lots of man on man contact... ignore what they say at the hall and stop trying to live to their expectations...

Besides, you can listen to Janet and Madonna... yes you will eventually like her too... when you go to sleep.

And work out some more and put the damn Hot Pockets and Oreos down! You won't be skinny forever!!!

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A Question Ex-Jws and Atheist On This Site

by Blue Grass in

i have a question for the regulars on this site which are mainly ex-jws and atheist.

my first question is just for the atheist.

why do you guys spend so much time discussing and researching a book you believe to be fiction?

saywhat29

Hmm, Blue Grass I actually made a similiar comment a while ago why people were still here, and why they couldn't just let it go since they weren't a Witness anymore.

And then I got my answer by walking back into a Kingdom Hall to see a history of people I grew up with and how intricate it was to my family's life. And how I wasn't over it like I thought I was over it. I can't get over it when every time something goes wrong a Watchtower is place at my door or instead of a real answer, I'm told to 'wait and pray to Jehovah', and when I ask my mother to go back to school to better herself in this economy I'm told that 'the system is coming to an end and school won't say anyone' all the while she struggles with the day to day.

Also, for the people who can't call their mother and/or their father or their close friends, thats not easy to get over and yeah some people are ENTITLED to their biterness. Hopefully they will make peace with it, but that doesn't come overnight, and you then make admit only coming by once a month to read stuff.. meaning you don't participate in the lively discussion that goes on here the stuid arguments and ebates that hapen, the fights and the make ups. So by that admission, you aren't a fair person to view what really goes on here.

As for Atheist who read and attack the bible you also have to understand that most atheist were not raised atheist and have to go through a process of undoing/unraveling their religion, which may just be your own religion. So don't take it personal..although I guess its hard not to, huh?

Hmm *shrugs* Your post was seriously rude though as you attack a group because of the actions of a few (and may I just add those actions weren't even directed at you since you don't even post that often, so yeah...)

You kinda sound like a douche and thats why people are responding harshly to you. You could have worded what you said a little better...

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How Can an Outed One Find a Study Buddy to Get Reinstated as a JW?

by Spike Tassel in

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Even though Isaacaustin is being a dick, Spike I gotta say, I'm starting not to believe you either.

If you were baptised in like 1992 and have been disfellowshipped for 3 1/2 years... the language you would be using would be totally different. No one says 'nullified', JWs disfellowship, make public reproofs, and the like. Your self diagnosis and lack of knowledge is truly suspect man. I thought you were new or something for even asking this question but the fact that you have been disfellowshipped for 3 1/2 years while going to the meetings (and thats some bs right there), have talked about another disfelowshipped person being under the wing of a pioneer (were they related? because that would be the only excuse for that), and using non JW jargon?

You are so lying, dude.

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"I'm Perfect, You're Doomed" discussion...

by Tuesday in

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has anyone read this book?.

i figured i had to comment because everyone was telling me oh tim, youre going to love this book.

she went to the same assemblies as you, she was raised in a similar household, she did poetry slams as well.

saywhat29

Or yourself being gay, do you think it's cool when people stereotype all gay people as S&M leather wearing people who will hook up with anyone they feel like?

*removes the gag out of my mouth and cancels his hook up on ManHunt*

Oh my God, I so hate that... stupid stereotypes! *shifty eyes*

Honestly, stereotypes exist for reasons that are usually benign or deeper than most people feel like wasting time thinking over, so simple generalizations-without-deep-thought work for them (us) instead. Its not 'right' at all but they exist for reasons even if we don't like them, positive or not. Do irish people drink too much? I don't know... but being part of the working poor class (whom are more likely to suffer from alcoholism) it wouldn't surprise me. Indians (first nation people) also have that bad alcoholic stereotype. Maybe a genetic thing since alcoholism can be genetic sometime.

And the gay stereotype is a stereotype but its one based in reality. Gay men are fucking permiscuous... because we're men who sleep with people who feel the exact same way about sex that we do- men! If women behaved exactly like they did in your fantasies straight men would be hooking up whenever/whoever they felt like too. However if you assumed I was that way just because I'm gay then you're the douchenozzle. Especially since Im going through a dry spell.

Going back to my original point- those stereotypes JWs cast on us- its not the stereotype thats the problem but the value system they assign us. Stop accpeting their value system that the resons we left made us unworthy or less than or weak.

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How Can an Outed One Find a Study Buddy to Get Reinstated as a JW?

by Spike Tassel in

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saywhat29

Wait... 3 1/2 years?!?!?!?!!!?!?!

Oh hell no there is something else going on here man. No one is disfellowshipped for that long and attends meetings. Thats just, like... what? Even if they didn't believe you to be repentant, what do the elders say to you when they talk to you? They encourage people throughout the process to keep attending and ask you about your life and making changes. what have they been telling you in the meantime for 3 1/2 years?

Dude that doesn't sound right.

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How Can an Outed One Find a Study Buddy to Get Reinstated as a JW?

by Spike Tassel in

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saywhat29

Well go to a different hall then. You don't get study buddies Spike. If anything that would look worse; like you guys were up to trouble. they wanna see you alone, not socializing with people in your situation. Thats why when disfellowship run into each other they are suppose to like, either tell each other to go to the meetings, or talk something else that is JW related. Not become best chums. What if you make it back and they don't?

So if you wanna go back then go back, sit quietly and leave afterwards as to not make them feel uncomfortable for ignoring you outright. lol. God I hated doing that...that weird awkward smile.

Or if you have any sense, dont go back whatsoever, move on and worship God/Jehovah in some other way...

How long have you been with the witnesses anyway?